AFL and 18 Clubs apologise to Adam Goodes

[binman 43,105]

A total load of rubbish fork. 

And the biggest load of rubbish is the bizarre assertion that he goodies cried 'poor me'. Such a weird rewriting of history and such an obvious illustration of  confirmation bias.

Even Adam Goodes most trenchant crrlitics, especially all the 'hard men' who wont be told they shouldn't boo, surely respect his stoicism and strength in refuing to comment on the controversy, then, since or now. Instructive that he only agreed to the recent doco because it only used archival footage and he declined to be interviewed.

Cried poor? What  a joke. An ironic one too given the pathetic bleating by toss pots and so called hard men like Sam Newman and any number of everday joes. Oh the war dance, how savage. Don't tell us we can't boo him, we'll do whatever we want - my grand pa pa fought for the right for freedom of speech. Don't play the racist card you bunch of pc swjs. Don't tell me I'm racist. It's got nothing to do with race - other aboriginal players never got nooed. We never boo eddy and even like micheal long. Blah. Blah l. Blah. On and on.

Tbe bleating  was and remains truly patethic and is a total embarrassment.

 

 

[old dee 23,797]

18 minutes ago, binman said:

A total load of rubbish fork. 

And the biggest load of rubbish is the bizarre assertion that he goodies cried 'poor me'. Such a weird rewriting of history and such an obvious illustration of  confirmation bias.

Even Adam Goodes most trenchant crrlitics, especially all the 'hard men' who wont be told they shouldn't boo, surely respect his stoicism and strength in refuing to comment on the controversy, then, since or now. Instructive that he only agreed to the recent doco because it only used archival footage and he declined to be interviewed.

Cried poor? What  a joke. An ironic one too given the pathetic bleating by toss pots and so called hard men like Sam Newman and any number of everday joes. Oh the war dance, how savage. Don't tell us we can't boo him, we'll do whatever we want - my grand pa pa fought for the right for freedom of speech. Don't play the racist card you bunch of pc swjs. Don't tell me I'm racist. It's got nothing to do with race - other aboriginal players never got nooed. We never boo eddy and even like micheal long. Blah. Blah l. Blah. On and on.

Tbe bleating  was and remains truly patethic and is a total embarrassment.

 

 

Wow binman you are worked up early today. Have a second coffee and relax for ten minutes.

please don't have a heart attack on 19th June.

[binman 43,105]

16 minutes ago, old dee said:

Wow binman you are worked up early today. Have a second coffee and relax for ten minutes.

please don't have a heart attack on 19th June.

 swjs never sleep od. Always on the job.

[Damo 3,361]

9 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

We actually started booing him early before all the BS about racism started.
There was this incident and another similar poor act which could have also been towards Godfrey in another game.
 

 

 

You lost me with the royal We Fork'em.

Who are you speaking on behalf of?

 

[Fork 'em 6,984]

4 hours ago, binman said:

A total load of rubbish fork. 

And the biggest load of rubbish is the bizarre assertion that he goodies cried 'poor me'. Such a weird rewriting of history and such an obvious illustration of  confirmation bias.

Even Adam Goodes most trenchant crrlitics, especially all the 'hard men' who wont be told they shouldn't boo, surely respect his stoicism and strength in refuing to comment on the controversy, then, since or now. Instructive that he only agreed to the recent doco because it only used archival footage and he declined to be interviewed.

Cried poor? What  a joke. An ironic one too given the pathetic bleating by toss pots and so called hard men like Sam Newman and any number of everday joes. Oh the war dance, how savage. Don't tell us we can't boo him, we'll do whatever we want - my grand pa pa fought for the right for freedom of speech. Don't play the racist card you bunch of pc swjs. Don't tell me I'm racist. It's got nothing to do with race - other aboriginal players never got nooed. We never boo eddy and even like micheal long. Blah. Blah l. Blah. On and on.

Tbe bleating  was and remains truly patethic and is a total embarrassment.

 

 

Too right he cried poor me and the ones trying to rewrite history were Goodes and the loud minority bleeding heart Lefties like yourself.
The bleating was and still is carried out by you lot.
Trying to paint is as something that it wasn't.
The silent majority gave him the raspberry first for questionable conduct on the field and then when awarded the AOTY award (for reasons that escape most people), being a divisive antagonist.
Again, nothing to do with his race till he made it so.
But as we know with the Lefties, the pathetic bleating will go on and on, pointing and accusing.
Holier than thou virtue signallers.

 

Edited June 19, 2019 by Fork 'em

[Fork 'em 6,984]

1 hour ago, Damo said:

You lost me with the royal We Fork'em.

Who are you speaking on behalf of?

 

Melbourne supporters.
There is footage of "us" giving him a royal booing during a game that I haven't been able to find.
And as I've stated before, I never actually boo'd him.
Though if I was there I would have.

[ManDee 7,161]

17 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

Too right he cried poor me and the ones trying to rewrite history were Goodes and the loud minority bleeding heart Lefties like yourself.
The bleating was and still is carried out by you lot.
Trying to paint is as something that it wasn't.
The silent majority gave him the raspberry first for questionable conduct on the field and then when awarded the AOTY award (for reasons that escape most people), being a divisive antagonist.
Again, nothing to do with his race.
But as we know with the Lefties, the bleating will go on and on, pointing and accusing.
Holier than thou.

 

Ironic don't you think? What is that saying about a pot calling the kettle black?

[Fork 'em 6,984]

Lol .... Is that all you got?
Good onya man.

 

Edited June 19, 2019 by Fork 'em

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,508]

11 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

We actually started booing him early before all the BS about racism started.
There was this incident and another similar poor act which could have also been towards Godfrey in another game.
The AFL looked at them and of course called all clear due to their bias towards Brownlow winners and the games .... "Stars."
Richmond supporters had their own reasons that he also got away with.

 

As for the supposed "War dance."
He could've gone with the traditional emu or kangaroo dances to show his pride in culture in front of his own supporters but instead chose to go with a recently made up one running at opposition supporters brandishing an imaginary spear on National TV.
The booing he got wasn't because of racism till he tried to be the next Nicky Winmar.
Who didn't get boo'd ....
Just reaped what he sowed and then cried poor me when it all blew up in his face.

Simon Godfrey..?  What year was this?

Is that when you think the ‘booing’ started?

[ManDee 7,161]

6 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

Lol .... Is that all you got?
Good onya man.

 

If you don't see the irony, that's all I need.

[Fork 'em 6,984]

4 minutes ago, ManDee said:

If you don't see the irony, that's all I need.

The irony is you trying to paint it as something it aint.

[Fork 'em 6,984]

12 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Simon Godfrey..?  What year was this?

Is that when you think the ‘booing’ started?

You've got the internet at your fingertips, work it for yourself.
But it was before all the BS started.

[ManDee 7,161]

1 minute ago, Fork 'em said:

The irony is you trying to paint it as something it aint.

Much of the bleating, pointing and accusing seems to be coming from you, not the so called lefties that you accuse. I would have loved Goodes to have been a Melbourne player, but he played for Sydney and I thought he was a dirty [censored] (like Chris Judd). I think Goodes is an astute individual and plays his hand well. I do not like booing but have been know to boo bad umpiring decisions. I think a lot of the Goodes later booing was tall poppy syndrome with a hint of racism. I deplore racism. 

[Fork 'em 6,984]

Listen man.
The pointing and accusing is coming from all those crying racists.
I've stated my reasons I believe it wasn't in previous posts if you want to find them.
Couldn't be forked rehashing for you again.

Edited June 19, 2019 by Fork 'em

[ManDee 7,161]

Beam me up Scotty!

[binman 43,105]

16 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

You've got the internet at your fingertips, work it for yourself.
But it was before all the BS started.

With the internet at your fingers I'm sure you will be able to find and load lots of examples of goodes 'crying poor' to provide some substance to that claim.

[Fork 'em 6,984]

Goodes pointing out that girl in the crowd,  trying to make out his spear thing was some sort of dance people didn't understand, deciding to drop himself for a couple games, retiring and then refusing his lap of honour for retiring players at the "G" were fair examples.

Edited June 19, 2019 by Fork 'em

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,508]

24 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

You've got the internet at your fingertips, work it for yourself.
But it was before all the BS started.

You provided the example - I'm asking for the context of your example. 

Godfrey retired 2007, so I'd suggest that your example has absolutely nothing to do with the booing that Goodes received in the last 18 months of his career.

[binman 43,105]

26 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

Goodes pointing out that girl in the crowd,  trying to make out his spear thing was some sort of dance people didn't understand, deciding to drop himself for a couple games, retiring and then refusing his lap of honour for retiring players at the "G" were fair examples.

Compelling examples of goodes crying poor me.  You're not a barrister are you?

[Melb16 493]

1 hour ago, Fork 'em said:

Goodes pointing out that girl in the crowd,  trying to make out his spear thing was some sort of dance people didn't understand, deciding to drop himself for a couple games, retiring and then refusing his lap of honour for retiring players at the "G" were fair examples.

Being booed for pointing out someone who racially abused him is directly racist.

Being booed for doing a cultural dance deemed unacceptable by white people is directly racist.

Being booed for 'trying to be Nicky Winmar' (ie standing up to racism) is directly racist.

I thought it was solely because he staged for frees and had NOTHING to do with racism?

With due respect, you do not understand what racism is. This is clearly highlighted by your posts. You do not currently have a level of education on this issue to be able to contribute to progressing the discussion. 

[Demonstone 22,608]

Planning to watch the documentary Fork 'em, or is your mind already made up (ie. closed)?

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

1 hour ago, Melb16 said:

Being booed for doing a cultural dance deemed unacceptable by white people is directly racist.

With due respect, you do not understand what racism is. 

With due respect, I am not in agreement with Fork’em on some key points but the sentence you wrote above demonstrates that you don’t understand racism either.

Racism, as exampled the other day in Jeff Kennett’s comments regarding ‘new arrivals’, is present when any kind of blanket statement is made based on someone’s ethnicity or skin colour. You have no idea what a group of so-called “white people” deem unacceptable any more than I know what “Middle Eastern” people deem unacceptable. 

How do you know? Did you record interviews with everyone in the crowd at those games? Maybe some did, some didn’t and others couldn’t give a fig, ignored the whole thing and waited for the ridiculously amped up hysteria of it to disappear. Unless you’re fully psychic and possessed of supernatural powers of perception - how would you know?

Anytime I hear a person say “white people”, “black people” or “Asian people” etc or repeatedly use the word “they” with a bent to cast that vaguely described group in some kind of shady, negative light it is absolutely no different than when someone begins a sentence with “I’m not racist but ...”. 

In short - try and see the sad irony playing the attack dog against racism while using obviously racist language yourself.

Edited June 19, 2019 by Matsuo Basho

[Engorged Onion 10,223]

5 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

With due respect, I am not in agreement with Fork’em on some key points but the sentence you wrote above demonstrates that you don’t understand racism either.

Racism, as exampled the other day in Jeff Kennett’s comments regarding ‘new arrivals’, is present when any kind of blanket statement is made based on someone’s ethnicity or skin colour. You have no idea what a group of so-called “white people” deem unacceptable any more than I know what “Middle Eastern” people seem unacceptable. 

How do you know? Did you record interviews with everyone in the crowd at those games? Maybe some did, some didn’t and others couldn’t care less, ignored the whole thing and waited for the ridiculous hysteria of it to die down. Unless you’re fully psychic and possessed of supernatural powers of perception - how would you know?

Anytime I hear a person say “white people”, “black people” or “Asian people” etc or repeatedly use the word “they” with a bent to cast that vaguely described group in some kind of shady, negative light it is absolutely no different than when someone begins a sentence with “I’m not racist but ...”. 

In short - try and see the sad irony playing the attack dog against racism while using obviously racist language yourself.

Oh come on Matty, you’re a learned man, a scholar if you will. 

Are you aware of the term ‘institutionalised privilege’?  That’s why ‘white people’ is a moot point.

Or in another way...

 

“I wish I was another race, gender, minority group” - said no western white man ever...

 

[Melb16 493]

13 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

With due respect, I am not in agreement with Fork’em on some key points but the sentence you wrote above demonstrates that you don’t understand racism either.

Racism, as exampled the other day in Jeff Kennett’s comments regarding ‘new arrivals’, is present when any kind of blanket statement is made based on someone’s ethnicity or skin colour. You have no idea what a group of so-called “white people” deem unacceptable any more than I know what “Middle Eastern” people deem unacceptable. 

How do you know? Did you record interviews with everyone in the crowd at those games? Maybe some did, some didn’t and others couldn’t give a fig, ignored the whole thing and waited for the ridiculously amped up hysteria of it to disappear. Unless you’re fully psychic and possessed of supernatural powers of perception - how would you know?

Anytime I hear a person say “white people”, “black people” or “Asian people” etc or repeatedly use the word “they” with a bent to cast that vaguely described group in some kind of shady, negative light it is absolutely no different than when someone begins a sentence with “I’m not racist but ...”. 

In short - try and see the sad irony playing the attack dog against racism while using obviously racist language yourself.

Sorry to ruin your long winded post, but I didn't say all white people.

I'm white, I accepted it. 

I was referring to white people that didn't accept the dance and in turn booed him. Which is racist.

Cheers
 

Edited June 19, 2019 by Melb16

[Matsuo Basho 1,053]

22 minutes ago, Melb16 said:

Sorry to ruin your long winded post, but I didn't say all white people.

I'm white, I accepted it. 

I was referring to white people that didn't accept the dance and in turn booed him. Which is racist.

Cheers
 

Then you should have said that. Even then it is problematic because you’re referencing a crowd of people who’s ethnicity and background you have no way of determining individually. It is therefore still a blanket statement and still racially charged with labels and preconceived judgments. Using the word “some” furthermore renders your comment meaningless given that “some” is an arbitrary marker with no clearly defined metric. It could mean many, it could mean a few or anywhere else in between.

When it comes to commenting on a matter as sensitive as race, either be precise in your language or be prepared to have the holes in your Swiss cheese logic picked apart like the Demon defence in the first half of 2019.