1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

it'll be slippery

which is a bonus as the crows will fumble as much as us - lol

... so we should go with Weideman and tSmith as our talls...  as both will be better at ground level than Preuss'y, in these conditions...  unless they rest Maxy, which they won't.

 

Just now, DV8 said:

... so we should go with Weideman and tSmith as our talls...  as both will be better at ground level than Preuss'y, in these conditions...  unless they rest Maxy, which they won't.

 

Gotta play Preuss, just allows a complete rethink of our Forward "structure" and upsets their backs when Oliver/Jones/etc just bomb in junk

18 minutes ago, dieter said:

DC: what more can I say? I fought yuo was da font of all noledges.

Haha Ha,  not  'dc'...   dat was  Dr know...  he woz the soappositry of ore noledges,  and fiter of eavils.

4 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Gotta play Preuss, just allows a complete rethink of our Forward "structure" and upsets their backs when Oliver/Jones/etc just bomb in junk

I'd wait,  until after Darwin.  

Bring in Lever and Preuss,  the following week... if they are both fit and perform well. 

Its time Preussy  'Starred'...  in the VFL,  instead of  'doing well'.

1 hour ago, TGR said:

You make it sound like he cost us a pizza box.

What about coin? 600k? 700k?

What about the guy the pushed out?  The '+1' gig really in 2017 and 2018, was the easiest in football.  Watts would have smashed it, and provided plan b, c and d options.

You never know who didn't get the opportunity and security of a spot in the team either.  Not directly related but we had a guy playing for Casey 2nds that is playing for a team that is vying for top 6 this year.

He cost us sweet [censored] all. The guy he pushed out? off the list? back in 2017? I wont even bother looking to see who it was. It was a spud.

The guy who we would have drafted instead of him? With Pick 90? Good one.

We had Nathan Jones as the only leadership in the whole team and had a guy who had played in 4 flags who wanted to come to the club.

Watts? you bring up Watts? you think he could have played the plus 1 role? He played every [censored] position on the ground and he was a [censored] liability.

11 hours ago, DV8 said:

Haha Ha,  not  'dc'...   dat was  Dr know...  he woz the soappositry of ore noledges,  and fiter of eavils.

lotta dem on dis sight

On 5/29/2019 at 4:44 PM, bing181 said:

Oops. That's a thought that you would have been better keeping to yourself.

Why?

Typical comment that is easy to make but hard to justify.

Edited May 30, 20195 yr by TGR

Times up slugger.

On 5/28/2019 at 8:57 PM, TGR said:

What a con job this import turned out to be.  A guy past his peak, and the best coach of the modern era knew it.  Clarko has turned Hawthorn around and sped them up without a rebuild, and meanwhile a slow team got massively slower.

Lewis was so slow from day 1.  In fact, he slowed drastically in his last 2 years at Hawthorn.  When you're slow you have no other choice but to drop to your knees in a contest or belt the guy in frustration.  How many reportable incidents?  How many undisciplined 50 metre penalties?  His comments about umpire abuse just last week was the antithesis of leadership.  On the field, when we needed him to stand up in some way, in our most important game in a decade, he failed miserably and was universally awarded BOG.

This has been a train-wreck.  The tragedy is though, that if you stripped emotion ("he wants to come to Melbourne....yay") and rhetoric (leadership) away, it was always a stinker of a move.  Problem was that the club and most of our fans over-dose on emotion and rhetoric.

As Cornes said, no other club was anywhere near offering this bloke a 2 year, let alone 3 year deal.  With decisions like this, no wonder 2019 has been what it has been.

 

Leadership?  My sphincter.

 

I called this from day 1.  I love being in the 2% around here.

 

 

 

The team we belted in the finals last year.... While I'd say all agree we gave him 1 year to many, we had to get a player of his ilk into the club. He's let himself down a number of times and if the team was fully fit he'd be struggling for a game. Otherwise your post is over the top and nothing but negative as usual and your ego is hilarious Mr 2% pppfffttt.

2 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

The team we belted in the finals last year.... While I'd say all agree we gave him 1 year to many, we had to get a player of his ilk into the club. He's let himself down a number of times and if the team was fully fit he'd be struggling for a game. Otherwise your post is over the top and nothing but negative as usual and your ego is hilarious Mr 2% pppfffttt.

I had to laugh at the 2% comment. Is that like a soft, past it Hell's Angel? 

It was particularly funny  given it presupposes TGR was actually correct in his position we should not have traded Lewis in. Which is plain wrong. He has been a terrific addition to the side. Which is 98% of people thought it was good move.

It absolutely has been a good move. As you say he would likely not be playing this season if we didn't have so many outs. That said it was instructive they elected to bring Spargo in instead of Lewis (who plays a very similar role to Salem) for Salem. Lewis then goes and clocks some fella in the VFL. Which is dead poor.

Apart from agreeing with TGR that that act was stoopid i also have to agree with his comments about Lewis on 360 saying Thomas should not have been cited for calling the ump a cheat. What bollocks. I couldn't believe it. He was all over the shop in his attempt to defend his position. No wonder because it was indefensible. If my son or daughter called an umpire a cheat i would be livid. Simply not on and crosses a line big time. Says a fair bit about where Lewis, a well known sniper, draws his lines.

I wouldn't be shocked if the club was similarly dismayed at his lack of leadership and that perhaps that was a factor in the decision to go with Spargo? If so his decision to get himself rubbed out wouldn't have done much to assuage the club's concerns.

6 hours ago, binman said:

It was particularly funny  given it presupposes TGR was actually correct in his position we should not have traded Lewis in. Which is plain wrong. He has been a terrific addition to the side.

It absolutely has been a good move.

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I see you're not an advocate for diversity of opinion. There is no telling if TGR is correct in his assertion that Lewis shouldn't be drafted.  It's an opinion and one in hindsight that is easily defendable.  I give Lewis a bare pass but I can fully understand those blokes that think he should never have come to the club.  The fact that Lewis's addition to our list is so debatable actually shows that TGR, being in a small minority, had a lot more foresight than many given his addition was welcomed by most.

6 hours ago, Cards13 said:

The team we belted in the finals last year.... we had to get a player of his ilk into the club.

 

Cards I can't find the "worm" but it's a stretch to say we belted them.  My recollection is they were very close in the last quarter, perhaps a goal, and I was anxious (in an attempt to avoid the censor) that we'd lose. This was not belting.  A belting happened in the Preliminary a week later.

And we "had to get a player of his ilk into the club".  I'd like to see the justification of that!  In all the good that he may have done he's certainly demonstrated how to be an arrogant toool and look after your own best interests firsts.  I've seen nothing to suggest Lewis thinks the "team first" ethos at MFC is something he should follow.

Hodge was the player that would have been much more valuable.

20 minutes ago, Baghdad Bob said:

I>>>>>>

Hodge was the player that would have been much more valuable.

equably debateable

5 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

equably debateable

I agree it's debatable.  What do you think?

2 hours ago, Baghdad Bob said:

I agree it's debatable.  What do you think?

any benefit lewis had dropped off markedly each year. 3 year contract was excessive 

hodge wouldn't have been any better

9 hours ago, binman said:

I had to laugh at the 2% comment. Is that like a soft, past it Hell's Angel? 

It was particularly funny  given it presupposes TGR was actually correct in his position we should not have traded Lewis in. Which is plain wrong. He has been a terrific addition to the side. Which is 98% of people thought it was good move.

It absolutely has been a good move. As you say he would likely not be playing this season if we didn't have so many outs. That said it was instructive they elected to bring Spargo in instead of Lewis (who plays a very similar role to Salem) for Salem. Lewis then goes and clocks some fella in the VFL. Which is dead poor.

Apart from agreeing with TGR that that act was stoopid i also have to agree with his comments about Lewis on 360 saying Thomas should not have been cited for calling the ump a cheat. What bollocks. I couldn't believe it. He was all over the shop in his attempt to defend his position. No wonder because it was indefensible. If my son or daughter called an umpire a cheat i would be livid. Simply not on and crosses a line big time. Says a fair bit about where Lewis, a well known sniper, draws his lines.

I wouldn't be shocked if the club was similarly dismayed at his lack of leadership and that perhaps that was a factor in the decision to go with Spargo? If so his decision to get himself rubbed out wouldn't have done much to assuage the club's concerns.

Meh I don’t agree it’s been terrific, it’s been just ok for mine. He’s let himself and the team down badly at times and has really dropped off a cliff game wise. It was necessary but hasn’t gotten us over the hump and delivered the leadership to drive the young core to sustained success. 

Hahha TGR on his moped.  

3 hours ago, Baghdad Bob said:

I see you're not an advocate for diversity of opinion. There is no telling if TGR is correct in his assertion that Lewis shouldn't be drafted.  It's an opinion and one in hindsight that is easily defendable.  I

That's not the case BB but i see your point.

Perhaps I should have added 'in my opinion'  to my Which is plain wrong comment but in my defence it is a given that it is my opinion i would have thought. An opinion i would bet London to a brick Goody would agrees with given he picked him in his starting 22 all last year when he had other options