On 24/06/2018 at 03:45, Knuckles said:

I am I the only one reading this thread and almost being embarrassed to be a Melbourne member. How can people be calling for Hogan to be dropped. Two weeks ago he was mentioned in almost every expert commentators mid season All Australian teams.

Nuffies are going to nuff.

And the amount of nuffies on Demonland is awe-inspiring.

  On 23/06/2018 at 08:47, Satyriconhome said:

 Tyson played his role,

 

 

I'd appreciate it if you could tell me what it was.

Thanks in advance.

  On 24/06/2018 at 01:18, Bravo Oscar, Bravo said:

Just a thought, but does anyone else think Bugg deserves another chance??

Yes I would try him inside, in place of Tyson.  Just to see what he looks like there,,,  against one of the lower sides.  end of year we make some big decisions and we need to look at our fringe players. now is the time to check them.

Tyson hasn't shone so far.

I would consider Bugg an in instead of Tyson, Lew, or Bernie?

Edited June 24, 20186 yr by DV8

FMD Tyson has been making it really hard to go in to bat for him in DLand so far this year

  On 24/06/2018 at 04:10, Vogon Poetry said:

I'd appreciate it if you could tell me what it was.

Thanks in advance.

Er...well let's think, the role he was given by Goodwin

I am astonished by some of the bollocks posted in this thread

It was a great contested game, we gave as good as we got if not better

We lost in my opinion and in no particular order because

1. injuries at critical times

2. A couple of dubious umpiring decisions

3. Not lowering our eyes going into the fifty

4. Maybe not having an extra tall in defence

Goodwin was pleased with the effort, we need to replicate it and get back to lowering our eyes when kicking into the 50 like I see at training every week, we have experienced pressure, learn from it

 

Out; Mitch Hannan, Alex Neal-Bullen, Christian Salem (all three not enough game involvement), Neville Jetta (rest, been hit hard a couple of times this year) and Tom Mcdonald (rest).
In; Sam Wiedeman, Harry Petty, Dion Johnstone, Sam Frost and Oscar Baker.
In a game against St.kilda we could blood some new players and shake up the team till we establish the best 22 and later create the cohesion needed for the finals (hopefully). The next week give Harley Balic, Jay Kennedy-Harris and Dean Kent a run.

So many changes which I know will not happen. Would love to see new players and show our depth instead of talking about it. We may need them if we get hit with injuries and giving them a run will prepare them if  they get called up for more challenging games.

  On 24/06/2018 at 04:31, kevin martin said:

Out; Mitch Hannan, Alex Neal-Bullen, Christian Salem (all three not enough game involvement), Neville Jetta (rest, been hit hard a couple of times this year) and Tom Mcdonald (rest).
In; Sam Wiedeman, Harry Petty, Dion Johnstone, Sam Frost and Oscar Baker.
In a game against St.kilda we could blood some new players and shake up the team till we establish the best 22 and later create the cohesion needed for the finals (hopefully). The next week give Harley Balic, Jay Kennedy-Harris and Dean Kent a run.

So many changes which I know will not happen. Would love to see new players and show our depth instead of talking about it. We may need them if we get hit with injuries and giving them a run will prepare them if  they get called up for more challenging games.

Unless your name is Goodwin, would love to see you tell him he is rested

You have taken out a high half forward and a half back  and replaced with two tall defenders and a wingman?

Edited June 24, 20186 yr by Satyriconhome

  On 24/06/2018 at 03:29, Bravo Oscar, Bravo said:

I'll take that as a no

I took it as a Nar , Yeah , NAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! 

  On 23/06/2018 at 08:47, Satyriconhome said:

Tyson played his role

 

 

  On 24/06/2018 at 04:10, Vogon Poetry said:

I'd appreciate it if you could tell me what it was.

Thanks in advance.

 

  On 24/06/2018 at 04:25, Satyriconhome said:

Er...well let's think, the role he was given by Goodwin

 

 

Comical.

  On 24/06/2018 at 04:25, Satyriconhome said:

Er...well let's think, the role he was given by Goodwin

 

 

 

Yes, I'd imagine if he had a role it was given to him by Goodwin or by the other coaches. Thanks for that, very helpful.

But I was wondering what it (the role) was as I don't know and therefore can't judge his game performance.

Please tell me what it was.  Help me out here Saty.

  On 24/06/2018 at 05:19, Vogon Poetry said:

Yes, I'd imagine if he had a role it was given to him by Goodwin or by the other coaches. Thanks for that, very helpful.

But I was wondering what it (the role) was as I don't know and therefore can't judge his game performance.

Please tell me what it was.  Help me out here Saty.

Disingenuous ring a bell here, you are supposedly one of the self appointed experts on here so you should be able to dissect what role Tyson had, as he was involved in the midfield assume he was given a midfield role.

Considering that Goodwin was impressed with the whole team performance on contested ball etc and only had an issue with the team bombing it in, for which all players were guilty, assume Tyson did his role

  On 24/06/2018 at 05:05, Petraccattack said:

 

 

 

Comical.

Yes you are, but yet another outstanding well thought out contribution to the topic

Out: T.Smith, Tyson 

In: Weed, Spargo

 

Edited June 24, 20186 yr by Ethan Tremblay

  On 24/06/2018 at 05:33, Satyriconhome said:

Disingenuous ring a bell here, you are supposedly one of the self appointed experts on here so you should be able to dissect what role Tyson had, as he was involved in the midfield assume he was given a midfield role.

Considering that Goodwin was impressed with the whole team performance on contested ball etc and only had an issue with the team bombing it in, for which all players were guilty, assume Tyson did his role

So in other words, you have no complete idea what his role was.. again, proving how you're so far out of your depth in terms of the knowledge of footy.. 

Jog on old timer.

  On 24/06/2018 at 05:33, Satyriconhome said:

Disingenuous ring a bell here, you are supposedly one of the self appointed experts on here so you should be able to dissect what role Tyson had, as he was involved in the midfield assume he was given a midfield role.

 

You made the claim that Tyson played his role...  you get asked what it was,   then you realize you have no idea so you throw it back on to Vogon to explain what Tysons role was all the while trying to sound like you have a clue.

Comical.  

 

  On 24/06/2018 at 05:37, Ethan Tremblay said:

Out: T.Smith, Tyson 

In: Weed, Spargo

 

Yes to this. Only changes I can see being made for next week unless we have injuries.

Whilst Tim Smith and Pederson might probably give you a bit more consistency I think Weid has the most potential and I've liked his attack on the contest in the air and on the ground when he's been in. The role that those three play is really clear as a lead up tall who can help in the ruck. They're pretty much in to contest in the air and tackle and attack each contest. I think Tim Smith has shown this at AFL level, but I don't know if its just me but he seems to get injured or battered almost every game he plays. Wonder if he's not approaching contests protecting himself well enough....

  On 24/06/2018 at 05:33, Satyriconhome said:

Disingenuous ring a bell here, you are supposedly one of the self appointed experts on here so you should be able to dissect what role Tyson had, as he was involved in the midfield assume he was given a midfield role.

Considering that Goodwin was impressed with the whole team performance on contested ball etc and only had an issue with the team bombing it in, for which all players were guilty, assume Tyson did his role

So I assume all the players played their role. 

Have I got that right?

  On 24/06/2018 at 05:45, dazzledavey36 said:

So in other words, you have no complete idea what his role was.. again, proving how you're so far out of your depth in terms of the knowledge of footy.. 

Jog on old timer.

Dazzle my ageist precious, knew you were there somewhere, could sense the heavy breathing

Depending on which bounce or ball up situation arose Tyson may be a blocker, the receiver of the tap from Gawn, the outside receiver etc, meant to be the conduit between the backs and the forward, kick a goal or two if possible, tackle anything in an opposition shirt, rotate through the wing and half forward if required  and look good on camera for the post game interview

  On 24/06/2018 at 06:01, Vogon Poetry said:

So I assume all the players played their role. 

Have I got that right?

Goodwin said so, only disappointed with the inside 50 entries, said the behaviours of the whole team were exemplary

  On 24/06/2018 at 05:48, Petraccattack said:

You made the claim that Tyson played his role...  you get asked what it was,   then you realize you have no idea so you throw it back on to Vogon to explain what Tysons role was all the while trying to sound like you have a clue.

Comical.  

 

I see all the bullies of the playground are backing you up, you are just making yourself look silly, care to debate my opinion, love a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent

  On 24/06/2018 at 06:22, Satyriconhome said:

Dazzle my ageist precious, knew you were there somewhere, could sense the heavy breathing

Depending on which bounce or ball up situation arose Tyson may be a blocker, the receiver of the tap from Gawn, the outside receiver etc, meant to be the conduit between the backs and the forward, kick a goal or two if possible, tackle anything in an opposition shirt, rotate through the wing and half forward if required  and look good on camera for the post game interview

Goodwin said so, only disappointed with the inside 50 entries, said the behaviours of the whole team were exemplary

You said he played his role, vogue asked exactly what his role was? You then took a blind guess which made completely no sense whatsoever..

You embarrassed yourself with the Gaff thread after being shown out as a petulant liar, and now this.  

Just stop mate.

  On 24/06/2018 at 06:30, dazzledavey36 said:

You said he played his role, vogue asked exactly what his role was? You then took a blind guess which made completely no sense whatsoever..

You embarrassed yourself with the Gaff thread after being shown out as a petulant liar, and now this.  

Just stop mate.

I don't know what his role was, do you, if Goodwin was satisfied with the team and the intent, surely that means he played his role, if he didn't then he won't get a game next week

What was his role then?

You are doing it again, misquoting, you do know that all posts, apart from those that are deleted by mods are kept in perpetuity, I didn't lie in the Gaff thread, others attributed that to me

  On 24/06/2018 at 06:34, Satyriconhome said:

I don't know what his role was, do you, if Goodwin was satisfied with the team and the intent, surely that means he played his role, if he didn't then he won't get a game next week

What was his role then?

You are doing it again, misquoting, you do know that all posts, apart from those that are deleted by mods are kept in perpetuity, I didn't lie in the Gaff thread, others attributed that to me

If you don't know what his role was then why did you say he played it...? 

You're getting worse and worse. 

  On 24/06/2018 at 05:52, Yung Blood said:

Yes to this. Only changes I can see being made for next week unless we have injuries.

Whilst Tim Smith and Pederson might probably give you a bit more consistency I think Weid has the most potential and I've liked his attack on the contest in the air and on the ground when he's been in. The role that those three play is really clear as a lead up tall who can help in the ruck. They're pretty much in to contest in the air and tackle and attack each contest. I think Tim Smith has shown this at AFL level, but I don't know if its just me but he seems to get injured or battered almost every game he plays. Wonder if he's not approaching contests protecting himself well enough....

Seven goals in the VFL has to be rewarded, he has clean hands and it’s only a matter of time until everything comes together at senior level. Before he was injured he was also getting involved around the ground a bit more and showing some good signs. 

I don't recall Tyson contesting a centre bounce (happy to stand corrected) and it appeared he was covering the defensive side of around ground stoppages - most notable when he gave away the holding free against Wines and was caught out on the fast break and couldn't catch up. 

In any case, by starting on the wing and setting up defensively at stoppages, Goodwin clearly has him playing a different role now.

Furthermore, this whole notion of exemplary behaviours espoused by Goodwin will prove incongruous when selections are announced later this week IMO

  On 24/06/2018 at 06:40, Wiseblood said:

If you don't know what his role was then why did you say he played it...? 

You're getting worse and worse. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf4nlIEHfaU