1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

So if Gawn and Pedo go down in 2018, it's Watts and King? Not sure we've ever been good at picking up a mature ruck that's willing to play VFL only until AFL injuries. I'd keep Spencil. 

As you say, it's also matter of Spencil being prepared to play as insurance in VFL. Every player wants to maximise their chances.

If Spencer goes I would be more than surprised if we don't bring in another mature option.

Hopefully one that's a bit more durable.

We also have the forgotten man Filipovic in development.

Spencer is a VFL ruckman! Just not AFL quality, even as a backup.

We did much better using Pedersen, TMac & Jack than when Spencer filled in.

Would be great to get something in a trade for him.

18 minutes ago, GoD's67 said:

Spencer is a VFL ruckman! Just not AFL quality, even as a backup.

We did much better using Pedersen, TMac & Jack than when Spencer filled in.

Would be great to get something in a trade for him.

He is an unrestricted free agent, we won't get anything for Jake

Jake is a solid ruckman. I think there are a couple of clubs with worse starting ruckmen than Spence.

49 minutes ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

He is an unrestricted free agent, we won't get anything for Jake

But we would get some form of compo - although it wont be early in the draft, I would think (probably a third rounder).  If he goes, hope it is on a big/long contract and we can get even a second rounder out of it.

If Jake goes i hope the club will look to replace him with another big man. 

We lost Gawn for a long stretch this year, and even with Pedo, Watts and TMac all doing well to fill in whilst he was out, Team Balance and Goal Scoring all suffered

Spencer is good Insurance, so i would be wary of letting him go to anyone cheaply

1 hour ago, WAClark said:

Jake is a solid ruckman. I think there are a couple of clubs with worse starting ruckmen than Spence.

An even better wingman it seems

1 hour ago, buck_nekkid said:

But we would get some form of compo - although it wont be early in the draft, I would think (probably a third rounder).  If he goes, hope it is on a big/long contract and we can get even a second rounder out of it.

I might be wrong, but I don't think unrestricted FAs attract any compo

3 hours ago, GoD's67 said:

Spencer is a VFL ruckman! Just not AFL quality, even as a backup.

We did much better using Pedersen, TMac & Jack than when Spencer filled in.

Would be great to get something in a trade for him.

I was not a fan either until he filled in for Gawn this year. I thought he was very good until he got injured.

I've supported Jake's retention up to now but he needs to move on.  Try his luck elsewhere.

If Max were to go down this week, I would prefer to go into the finals with TMac/Pedo/Watts ruck combo that served us well this year - that's where Jake's rating has fallen to.  Mitch King will have another pre-season under his belt - we may not need another back-up ruck option - we probably want King to be Casey #1 ruck next year for his development.  Filipovic backing him up.

It makes sense for Spence to find his groove elsewhere, and good on him if he does.

Jake is a terrific bloke and a terrific clubman.

Hope we offer him enough to stay but good luck to him if he goes!!

I remember his mother being interviewed when he was drafted. Jake was eating something like 10 weetbix for breakfast at age 2.

Might become very tempting to the lions if stef Martin leaves 

So he has been woeful in 2 VFL finals.  Not good for the CV, is it?