8 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

It seems that the AFL will (at last)!

GWS Giants lose Murray region as AFL re-shapes northern academy system

Not only will Albury be stripped from the zone (Spargo and Brander will be released into the pool), but the already mentioned restrictions on players ranked inside the top 20 (subject to ladder positioning) will also come into effect immediately.

Excellent.

If the report is correct and the changes are adopted it will finally be a case of sanity prevailing. Blind Freddie could tell you that a region that produced the likes of the Danihers, Wayne Carey, Paul Kelly and Shane Crawford to name a few isn't really a development zone and that the Giants were never deserving of the free access to players from this region under the northern states academy concept. This year's national draft would have been a farce with three top 10 players available to one club (and possibly one more if they were able to trade into an early pick as they did last year). 

carltank supporting mate is celebrating already.

he's convinced they're finishing stone motherless and will appeal for a priority pick, have picks 1 and 2 at the table, and pick up these two potential gw$ boys.

i personally think if that does happen it's far more likely sos will give picks 1 and 2 to gw$ for some magic beans, but whatever...

1 hour ago, DemonAndrew said:

carltank supporting mate is celebrating already.

he's convinced they're finishing stone motherless and will appeal for a priority pick, have picks 1 and 2 at the table, and pick up these two potential gw$ boys.

i personally think if that does happen it's far more likely sos will give picks 1 and 2 to gw$ for some magic beans, but whatever...

Your mate is dreaming DA!  If a team ever needed a pp it was Brisbane last year.  They got one but it was end of first round. 

That was the first pp since the new (at AFL discretion) pp system came in (to stop tanking). 

So can't see the AFL giving pick 2 to the bottom team, in a hurry.  And, Carlton recent history: 

• 2016: 7 wins (14th)
• 2015: 4 wins (18th)
• 2014: 7 wins, 1 draw (13th)
• 2013: 11 wins (played finals and finished 8th... 9th if Ess hadn't been dumped)

Bottom 4 only once in last 4 years (...didn't they tank their last game vs Brisbane in 2015 to make sure of 18th...)

They can tank again (after all they are the masters at it) and they might finish last but their recent history won't get them a pp and certainly not pick 2.  And as Mike Fitzpatrick is no longer Chairman they won't have as much clout. 

4 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

If the report is correct and the changes are adopted it will finally be a case of sanity prevailing. Blind Freddie could tell you that a region that produced the likes of the Danihers, Wayne Carey, Paul Kelly and Shane Crawford to name a few isn't really a development zone and that the Giants were never deserving of the free access to players from this region under the northern states academy concept. This year's national draft would have been a farce with three top 10 players available to one club (and possibly one more if they were able to trade into an early pick as they did last year). 

Spot on WJ, but as Wilson notes, the bird's flown. And you can take it to the bank that these changes will take effect after this years draft.

5 hours ago, Return to Glory said:

Spot on WJ, but as Wilson notes, the bird's flown. And you can take it to the bank that these changes will take effect after this years draft.

You're not suggesting the AFL would defer putting the changes into effect until after this year's draft when there are so many players who otherwise would be eligible for its $20m per annum love ❤️ child, are you?

56 minutes ago, Chelly said:

You're not suggesting the AFL would defer putting the changes into effect until after this year's draft when there are so many players who otherwise would be eligible for its $20m per annum love ❤️ child, are you?

I do like the rhetorical nature of this question Chelly.

11 hours ago, DemonAndrew said:

carltank supporting mate is celebrating already.

he's convinced they're finishing stone motherless and will appeal for a priority pick, have picks 1 and 2 at the table, and pick up these two potential gw$ boys.

i personally think if that does happen it's far more likely sos will give picks 1 and 2 to gw$ for some magic beans, but whatever...

If Carlton get a priority pick I will [censored] on McLachlan's desk. What a joke that would be. Particularly, given we were denied when we were potentially the worst team to ever play the game. Carlton have had more number one draft picks than any other team in the modern era, so it would be an absolute disgrace.

I love the Carlton arrogance though. Still one of my most hated clubs. Love that they haven't won a flag for 22 years and have been almost as bad as us over a 15 year period.

Edited March 18, 20178 yr by A F

10 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Your mate is dreaming DA!  If a team ever needed a pp it was Brisbane last year.  They got one but it was end of first round. 

That was the first pp since the new (at AFL discretion) pp system came in (to stop tanking). 

So can't see the AFL giving pick 2 to the bottom team, in a hurry.  And, Carlton recent history: 

• 2016: 7 wins (14th)
• 2015: 4 wins (18th)
• 2014: 7 wins, 1 draw (13th)
• 2013: 11 wins (played finals and finished 8th... 9th if Ess hadn't been dumped)

Bottom 4 only once in last 4 years (...didn't they tank their last game vs Brisbane in 2015 to make sure of 18th...)

They can tank again (after all they are the masters at it) and they might finish last but their recent history won't get them a pp and certainly not pick 2.  And as Mike Fitzpatrick is no longer Chairman they won't have as much clout. 

You do realise you're talking about the AFL, right? Anything can happen and rules are rubber. 

(rhetoric)

On 18/03/2017 at 7:04 AM, Whispering_Jack said:

If the report is correct and the changes are adopted it will finally be a case of sanity prevailing. Blind Freddie could tell you that a region that produced the likes of the Danihers, Wayne Carey, Paul Kelly and Shane Crawford to name a few isn't really a development zone and that the Giants were never deserving of the free access to players from this region under the northern states academy concept. This year's national draft would have been a farce with three top 10 players available to one club (and possibly one more if they were able to trade into an early pick as they did last year). 

And it's done. Effective immediately.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-03-20/giants-lose-access-to-top-talent-in-academy-overhaul

We need to read the fine print but it looks like a bit of a compromise compared with what I understood was originally mooted.

AFL confirms changes to GWS Giants' academy

 

The talent scouts will be out in force on Sunday afternoon at the MCG when a special NAB AFL Academy 20th anniversary celebration match as the curtain raiser to the Carlton and Essendon clash. The match will highlight members of this year's national academy prospects and will include players eligible for the 2017 and 2018 drafts.

I know there were many Demonlanders lost interest in the drafts last year because the club ultimately went into the 2016 AFL National Draft without a selection in the first two rounds and that we're aiming for high places in the competition in the new Simon Goodwin era but it's still important to replenish your supply of talent no matter where you finish.

This is the time when talent scouts get a chance to see the top ranked youth pitted against each other in a competitive outing and it should be worthwhile keeping an eye on who does well in the games involving the best of the NAB AFL Academy talent -

Two years of talent on show in MCG curtain raiser

The squads for the game are:-

TEAM WEITERING

1. Charlie Spargo
4. Izak Rankine
5. Lachlan Fogarty
6. Rhylee West
7. Jack Powell
8. Connor Rozee
9. Luke Valente
11. Lochie O'Brien
12. Buku Khamis
14. James Worpel
15. Jack Bytel
16. Hunter Clark
17. Dominic Grant
18. Luke Davies-Uniacke
19. Darcy Fogarty
20. Zane Barzen
21. Jarrod Brander
22. Oscar Clavarino
25. Kwaby Boakye
27. Max King
28. Ben King
29. Changkuoth Jiath
32. Connor Ballenden
33. Callum Coleman-Jones
34. Hudson Garoni
35. Sam Hayes

TEAM DANIHER

2. Cameron Rayner
3. Chayce Jones
4. Jack Higgins
5. Sam Walsh
6. Patrick Naish
8. Kane Farrell
9. Jake Patmore
10. Aidan Quigley
12. Jye Caldwell
13. Joel Garner
14. Jordan Houlahan
15. Jaidyn Stephenson
17. Tarryn Thomas
19. Jackson Hately
20. Andrew McPherson
21. Sam Taylor
23. Thomas Schmusch
24. Jack Lukosius
25. Noah Balta
30. Tom De Koning
31. Paddy Dow

joel garner better come off the long run!

Brett Anderson has an interesting item on the SEN site - A FIRST LOOK AT THIS YEAR'S INTRIGUING DRAFT CROP

2 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Brett Anderson has an interesting item on the SEN site - A FIRST LOOK AT THIS YEAR'S INTRIGUING DRAFT CROP

Looks like they're getting in early with "next year's draft is going to be quality".

Cam Rayner! Might not be what we need, but by god, he is a serious talent. 

3 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Looks like they're getting in early with "next year's draft is going to be quality".

it's the same quote every year.

"this year is okay, but wait'll you get a load of next year's crop!"

A little belated but here's a report on that AFL Academy game ~

MCG curtain-raiser a glimpse of the future

I hope its a bumper crop and hawthorn finish last.

10 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

I hope its a bumper crop and hawthorn finish last.

do you go for st. kilda?

1 hour ago, Wrecker45 said:

I hope its a bumper crop and hawthorn finish last.

That would make me both laugh and cry 

2 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

I hope its a bumper crop and hawthorn finish last.

Hawks v Swans race to the bottom?

10 hours ago, DemonAndrew said:

do you go for st. kilda?

No but i hate them less than hawthorn and their supporters aren't as arrogant.

 

The joy of Hawthorn finishing last, going through a year of pain and not receiving a first or second round pick far outweighs a rival receiving said picks.

According to some, this kid could go #1 -

Country star emerges as top-five prospect

Meanwhile, the AFL Academy faced Peter Jackson VFL team the Northern Blues at Etihad Stadium on Saturday, with Western Jets midfielder/forward Cameron Rayner appointed captain of the Academy team for the night.

AFL ACADEMY 4.2 5.2 5.3 6.3 (39)

 NORTHERN BLUES 4.1 9.6 16.11 17.12 (114)

Goals

AFL Academy: Cameron Rayner (Western), Charlie Spargo (Murray), Jarrod Brander (Bendigo), Changkuoth Jiath (Gippsland), Jaidyn Stephenson (Eastern), Hayden McLean (Sandringham) 

Northern Blues: Gallucci 4, Jaksch 3, McKay 2, Glass- McCasker 2, Kerridge, Polson, Boekhorst, Smedts, Sheehan, Phillips

Best 

AFL Academy: Luke Davies-Uniacke (Dandenong), Lachlan Fogarty (Western), Jack Higgins (Oakleigh), Rayner, Hunter Clark (Dandenong) 

Northern Blues: Kerridge, Polson, Cuningham, Smedts, Jaksch, Boekhorst

On 22/04/2017 at 8:38 AM, Whispering_Jack said:

According to some, this kid could go #1 -

Country star emerges as top-five prospect

Meanwhile ...

Nice kid. Good prospect. Pity we'll be nowhere near pick 1 at the end of this year