3 minutes ago, olisik said:

As grey as it gets. Community needs to focus on helping victims of domestic violence and not journo comments to each other.

What was said I do not condone however publicly bullying Eddie about it I also don't condone. Mens health is as important as domestic violence. 

No one has said it isn't just as important, but seriously you're trying to turn Eddie into the victim in this?

Again, listen to the full segments, you can't possibly understand the different tones without doing so.

 

Just now, jnrmac said:

There's a lot of that going on in this PC day and age....

Far too much...

Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

Far too much...

Yeah, women should just be "smashed to a pulp" when they speak up, just like in the good old days hey WYL?

 

1 minute ago, stuie said:

That is completely untrue.

The difference is the left are seeking to separate true Muslims, who are peaceful, and those who twist the Koran to suit their own socio-political agendas, whereas the right are painting all of them with the same brush and just want to bomb them or ban them.

Subtlety and understanding has never been your strong point though, or that of the right with which you identify.

 

 

Are you saying Muslims in general are ok with homosexuality, and it's only the bad ones who condemn it? Or have I missed your point here?

 

Just now, stuie said:

Yeah, women should just be "smashed to a pulp" when they speak up, just like in the good old days hey WYL?

 

Get off your soap box Stuie

the woman i knew in 2004-5 would have eaten you alive then sold your house before the rellos got there. 

 

Just now, Dante said:

 

Are you saying Muslims in general are ok with homosexuality, and it's only the bad ones who condemn it? Or have I missed your point here?

 

No, I'm saying a true Muslim who isn't stuck in the dark ages doesn't believe homosexuals should be killed.

A bit like how Christians are against homosexuality but don't want to kill them.

 

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Get off your soap box Stuie

the woman i knew in 2004-5 would have eaten you alive then sold your house before the rellos got there. 

 

Yeah and they're clearly all the same and should be beaten if they get out of line hey?

We've all had bad experiences mate, but some of us are man enough to recognize they're not all the same and that there is a violent culture in our country towards them.

 

10 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Are you against the Mosque in Bendigo?

The only way anyone would support a Mosque is if they were utterly clueless about Islam and the Quran.  Many of the highest ranking Imam's preach hatred of the West to our young easily influenced minds.  

I fully understand that my answer is wonderful fodder for those that want to start throwing labels around ... so be it.  I'm well versed in Islam and the dangers it presents to the West.  It is completely incompatible with freedom, democracy and our way of life.  Islam is only interested in God's law, not our "man-made laws".  They tolerate their host countries culture and laws, but it is in spite of Islamic teachings.  Sweden is now the rape capital of the world due to their left-leaning policies and wonderfully welcoming open arms.  They've lost their country.  It will be Islamic within 30-50 years.  Do some research.

I appreciate that you won't understand much of what I'm saying and that the general populace is ignorant of Islam, so before going of with your rant do a bit of research ... and then rant.  And then research again.  And then rant.  Islam is as much a political ideology with its own set of rules and politics than it is a religion.

Anyway Old Man, I've given you what you want so you can yell racist and bigot from the top of your lungs.  But it's misguided anger.  You're simply oblivious to Islam.  Islam is smart though.  Much smarter than you.  They thrive on the support from the Left while hating you at the same time.  It's kind of admirable. 

Islam hates Israel and the Left hates Israel.  One happy family.  And in the meantime the Left won't dare say a word against Islam.

Btw, before anyone asks, yes, there are westernised moderate Muslims.  And there are plenty of them.  But there's nothing moderate about Islam and those who are do so in spite of teachings or are simply ignorant of the Quran.  And plenty of Muslims are ignorant of the Quran (thankfully).

There endeth the lesson, Old man.   Rant and spit away...

(note to others: I answered a question, so don't blame me from veering from topic - it would have been easier not to answer)   

a point being missed here is eddie's lack of a clear apology when this blew up. he attempted to justify his behaviour and further obfuscated, turning the charade into more of a filibuster in his usual fashion than a simple clear apology

here is frawley's immediate unequivocal apology by comparison

Quote

Former St Kilda captain Danny Frawley also went on the Hot Breakfast program on Monday morning with a clear intention to apologise. He said he had also tried to ring Wilson to apologise.

"I want to sincerely apologise for my comments that happened last Monday.

"They were inappropriate, they were unacceptable, and any comments that translate into or are seen as being violence against women are totally inappropriate."

He said he spoke to his three daughters and mother about the remarks on Sunday and that "a lot of people had been affected, no more than Caroline Wilson".

He admitted that when he listened in isolation to the conversation: "It's not great".

"It's not good enough, I take full responsibility," Frawley said.

 

33 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Look, I don't crave yours or any other admiration.  I post and people can choose what they like or otherwise, it matters not to me.  If I was concerned I wouldn't write what I know will have the hand-wringers seething.

The Left love to be our moral guidance on most social aspects, but when it comes to Islam they are completely silent. Utterly silent.  And it's deafening, because they screech from the rooftops on everything else.  Where are the feminists when it comes to Islam and its gay/women's rights ?  Why you can't see this fascinates me.  I'll put it down to left-wing sentiments.

Rest assured though, I have little time for the present right in politics.  They're a do nothing gutless mob only interested in their own interests.

Isn't that all pollies? Social media and the immediate feedback loop really have killed off the politician who did things because they were right, not because they got the most likes (or you have Dan the man who does them because his puppet masters tell him to).

I have also been very aware of the lack of articles in columns such as daily life in the age about the horrors women face in extreme Islam. 

1 minute ago, ProDee said:

The only way anyone would support a Mosque is if they were utterly clueless about Islam and the Quran.  Many of the highest ranking Imam's preach hatred of the West to our young easily influenced minds.  

I fully understand that my answer is wonderful fodder for those that want to start throwing labels around ... so be it.  I'm well versed in Islam and the dangers it presents to the West.  It is completely incompatible with freedom, democracy and our way of life.  Islam is only interested in God's law, not our "man-made laws".  They tolerate their host countries culture and laws, but it is in spite of Islamic teachings.  Sweden is now the rape capital of the world due to their left-leaning policies and wonderfully welcoming open arms.  They've lost their country.  It will be Islamic within 30-50 years.  Do some research.

I appreciate that you won't understand much of what I'm saying and that the general populace is ignorant of Islam, so before going of with your rant do a bit of research ... and then rant.  And then research again.  And then rant.  Islam is as much a political ideology with its own set of rules and politics than it is a religion.

Anyway Old Man, I've given you what you want so you can yell racist and bigot from the top of your lungs.  But it's misguided anger.  You're simply oblivious to Islam.  Islam is smart though.  Much smarter than you.  They thrive on the support from the Left while hating you at the same time.  It's kind of admirable. 

Islam hates Israel and the Left hates Israel.  One happy family.  And in the meantime the Left won't dare say a word against Islam.

Btw, before anyone asks, yes, there are westernised moderate Muslims.  And there are plenty of them.  But there's nothing moderate about Islam and those who are do so in spite of teachings or are simply ignorant of the Quran.  And plenty of Muslims are ignorant of the Quran (thankfully).

There endeth the lesson, Old man.   Rant and spit away...

(note to others: I answered a question, so don't blame me from veering from topic - it would have been easier not to answer)   

This is surprisingly misguided, and yes bigoted, even for someone like you.

Many of the highest ranking Catholic's have hidden systematic child abuse. Nothing to say about Catholicism though? Of course not, that's a good "white" religion.

I've studied both the Quran and the bible, grew up in the church with parents who were ministers, and also spent a few years learning and observing some Muslim traditions. I would suggest you placing yourself as the preeminent expert in Islam here is as ridiculous as your view that those who would support a mosque are "utterly clueless about Islam and the Quran". I would wager the Muslims who support them would know a bit more about Islam than you.

This above is one of the more ridiculous rants I've read (outside of an Andrew Bolt column) but it sure completes the picture of "ProDee" the person.

 

5 minutes ago, ProDee said:

The only way anyone would support a Mosque is if they were utterly clueless about Islam and the Quran.  Many of the highest ranking Imam's preach hatred of the West to our young easily influenced minds.  

I fully understand that my answer is wonderful fodder for those that want to start throwing labels around ... so be it.  I'm well versed in Islam and the dangers it presents to the West.  It is completely incompatible with freedom, democracy and our way of life.  Islam is only interested in God's law, not our "man-made laws".  They tolerate their host countries culture and laws, but it is in spite of Islamic teachings.  Sweden is now the rape capital of the world due to their left-leaning policies and wonderfully welcoming open arms.  They've lost their country.  It will be Islamic within 30-50 years.  Do some research.

I appreciate that you won't understand much of what I'm saying and that the general populace is ignorant of Islam, so before going of with your rant do a bit of research ... and then rant.  And then research again.  And then rant.  Islam is as much a political ideology with its own set of rules and politics than it is a religion.

Anyway Old Man, I've given you what you want so you can yell racist and bigot from the top of your lungs.  But it's misguided anger.  You're simply oblivious to Islam.  Islam is smart though.  Much smarter than you.  They thrive on the support from the Left while hating you at the same time.  It's kind of admirable. 

Islam hates Israel and the Left hates Israel.  One happy family.  And in the meantime the Left won't dare say a word against Islam.

Btw, before anyone asks, yes, there are westernised moderate Muslims.  And there are plenty of them.  But there's nothing moderate about Islam and those who are do so in spite of teachings or are simply ignorant of the Quran.  And plenty of Muslims are ignorant of the Quran (thankfully).

There endeth the lesson, Old man.   Rant and spit away...

(note to others: I answered a question, so don't blame me from veering from topic - it would have been easier not to answer)   

100% agree

the Muslim situation is a ticking time bomb

Australia will be taken over after i am gone. 

How many Western cultures are upheld inside Muslim countries?

i don't follow any religion because i despise mass mind control

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

100% agree

the Muslim situation is a ticking time bomb

Australia will be taken over after i am gone.

Alright, this thread has reached peak ignorance. I'm out.

 

3 minutes ago, stuie said:

Alright, this thread has reached peak ignorance. I'm out.

 

Really

fantastic

"Give my regards to the Earth's core"

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

Que?.....just get a bit bored with people who constantly bemoan situations and do absolutely nothing to try and change them   Dazzle you listening besides liking?

You don't know what I do or don't do and I'm not about to go on about it here.

Lets just say you're way off the mark with your assumption.

For once I agree with Stuie.  Mods, time to lock this as it is getting on very dangerous ground.  My granddaughter is made keen on Frozen and overtime I see her she sings 'Let it go' to me.  Fairly apt song in this case.

finally .. some sanity in all of this nonsense.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3649995/CORRINE-BARRACLOUGH-writes-defence-Eddie-McGuire-s-joke-Caroline-Wilson-drowning.html

Go away for a day and WW3 breaks out!

 

I agree with stuie on this. There I said it, never thought I would. As for Prodee and SWYL you seem to fail to appreciate that we live in changing times and standards of acceptability are shifting, not long ago aboriginals could not vote and slavery was commonplace (in the world). Societal values change, time to move with the times.

 

 

Surprisingly, I find myself in agreement with Stuie about the thread having worn out its welcome.