19 hours ago, braysure said:

Bad news. From all that I know and have been led to believe is that Hibberd will sign on when back from Croatia. Hate on me, do what you like, it's just what I have been told. Could be wrong.

Good news in my book, hope you are right

18 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

So braysure is getting his 'inner sanctum' info from Facebook? Seems about right. 

I'm not on facebook. 

Nothing really on bomber pages about this Rumour???? Wait see

7 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Having one Drug Cheat from the EFC pull on our Jumper is more than enough, considering that same player couldn't play for a year. Who know where his mindset is at now...

So i lose no sleep if Hibberd stays with the Druggers

Next...

If you are talking about Melksham, in your usual disrespectful way, he is in a really good space, he is like the others and gone overseas, but is keeping his fitness regime up to the level required to start pre season in great shape

4 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

If you are talking about Melksham, in your usual disrespectful way, he is in a really good space, he is like the others and gone overseas, but is keeping his fitness regime up to the level required to start pre season in great shape

I can think whatever i like

he is a convicted Drug Cheat taking up a space on our list. 

3 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I can think whatever i like

he is a convicted Drug Cheat taking up a space on our list. 

Of course you can think what you like, it shows exactly what kind of person you are

I'll have to make sure I welcome him back at first day of pre season training

1 minute ago, Satyriconhome said:

Of course you can think what you like, it shows exactly what kind of person you are

I'll have to make sure I welcome him back at first day of pre season training

I am sure you will be nude Satyr

exciting day for you

i don't like Drug Cheats in professional Sport. So you can take that anyway you like...

I am happy to give all ex-EFC players the benefit of the doubt. They deserve a fresh start if they join a new club, especially if it is Melbourne. To coin a Christian phrase I think that you 'should not judge others lest you be judged yourself'

17 minutes ago, Thehardtackler said:

I am happy to give all ex-EFC players the benefit of the doubt. They deserve a fresh start if they join a new club, especially if it is Melbourne. To coin a Christian phrase I think that you 'should not judge others lest you be judged yourself'

But they refuse to fess up or show any records...

On 7/22/2016 at 10:53 PM, Thehardtackler said:

I am happy to give all ex-EFC players the benefit of the doubt. They deserve a fresh start if they join a new club, especially if it is Melbourne. To coin a Christian phrase I think that you 'should not judge others lest you be judged yourself'

I see your point, but i can honestly say despite many years of being a loyal Dees supporter through some very average times, had we been found guilty of drug cheating, i would no longer support the club.

I think it's fair that some people value the integrity of the game and have concerns about convicted drug cheats joining a young and impressionable list

8 minutes ago, Abe said:

I see your point, but i can honestly say despite many years of being a loyal Dees supporter through some very average times, had we been found guilty of drug cheating, i would no longer support the club.

I think it's fair that some people value the integrity of the game and have concerns about convicted drug cheats joining a young and impressionable list

Jake was a young, impressionable kid doing exactly what his club was telling him to do. Drug cheat? Give it to his club, by all means. He was a 21 year old kid doing what he was told was best for him and also legal.

47 minutes ago, Tough Kent said:

Jake was a young, impressionable kid doing exactly what his club was telling him to do. Drug cheat? Give it to his club, by all means. He was a 21 year old kid doing what he was told was best for him and also legal.

Didn't stop David Zaharakis and Courtney Dempsey from saying no.

They knew exactly what they took hence  why most of the 12 have re-signed.

9 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Didn't stop David Zaharakis and Courtney Dempsey from saying no.

They knew exactly what they took hence  why most of the 12 have re-signed.

"Hey Jake Melksham. We're going to inject you in the gut with this stuff that we hope will make you a better player. It's illegal, but let's roll the dice. What do you think Jake?" "Umm, ok." 

I reckon they've re-signed with Essendon because they love playing footy with their mates and the fuckwits who put them in this position are no longer at the club.

Edited July 22, 20169 yr by Tough Kent

1 hour ago, Tough Kent said:

Jake was a young, impressionable kid doing exactly what his club was telling him to do. Drug cheat? Give it to his club, by all means. He was a 21 year old kid doing what he was told was best for him and also legal.

That doesn't explain why they failed to disclose to ASADA when up till those injections they'd informed testers if theyy took so much as a panadol.

As McDevitt said, at best they were extremely naive. At worst they were complicit.

I would be getting stuck into Hawks bigtime. Their (Melb) Football staff need repositioning back to us asap. Well, the ones that are worth it strategy wise.

This has got to stop before we have no records left too.

11 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I am sure you will be nude Satyr

exciting day for you

i don't like Drug Cheats in professional Sport. So you can take that anyway you like...

Then you must be concerned about every sport, because you can guarantee it is happening 

Melksham will have paid a heavy price for his naivety, done his time, he should be allowed to move on

Assume you have the cleanest skin in your endeavours in life, I know I don't 

Went nude to training once, players asked me what I was wearng coz it needed ironing

 

 

46 minutes ago, AngryAtCasey said:

That doesn't explain why they failed to disclose to ASADA when up till those injections they'd informed testers if theyy took so much as a panadol.

As McDevitt said, at best they were extremely naive. At worst they were complicit.

I choose to believe the former. Those boys payed a huge price for it too, including the fact that they will be labelled by some as drug cheats for the duration of their careers. I don't want to come across as an Essendon sympathizer because I hate the pricks but I feel for the players. They've done their time. 

Edited July 23, 20169 yr by Tough Kent

1 hour ago, Tough Kent said:

I choose to believe the former. Those boys payed a huge price for it too, including the fact that they will be labelled by some as drug cheats for the duration of their careers. I don't want to come across as an Essendon sympathizer because I hate the pricks but I feel for the players. They've done their time. 

Fair enough mate. Once jake puts the red & blue guernsey on he'll have my full support. However he well may become a popular first to be dropped choice around this board i suspect.

As for other players who Melbourne may chase, i wonder if Paul Ahern from GWS has been discussed much? Coming off a knee injury, but a huge talent with plenty of pace and a good size to. Could fit our needs. I have no idea who we may look for as far as ruck support goes though?

We need to get bargain basement players who are not getting a regular game at GC and GWS, perhaps Cale Marchbank. We have very litte to give. 

Is it possible we've already signed Sharrod Wellingham? Been good for us today.

How is it possible that Collingwood are so ordinary when they've managed to get so much value offloading players who contribute so little? (e.g. Wellingham, Dawes, Thomas)

If only we could match their strategy - first round pick for Dunn?

35 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Is it possible we've already signed Sharrod Wellingham? Been good for us today.

How is it possible that Collingwood are so ordinary when they've managed to get so much value offloading players who contribute so little? (e.g. Wellingham, Dawes, Thomas)

If only we could match their strategy - first round pick for Dunn?

Bit harsh on Thomas who although I can't stand, he has been very unlucky with injury and to a lesser degree Dawes injuries haven't helped either.

Wellingham has played some good footy at times also but they shanked letting go Rhyce Shaw who played a vital role in the Swans premiership and Heath who at the end of this year will most likely be a two time b&f and two time All-Australian.

If Buckley could manage them the Pies could have had a mini dynasty similar to the cats

Swap MFC 3rd round Pick #46 to GWS for either: 

Jake Barrett. Barrett is tough, skilled, wins clearances, great tackler, only 20. 

Not able to crack Giants midfield due to talented group of Shiel, Greene, Hopper, Ward, Scully, Coniglio, Kelly, Griffen.

Or

James Stewart. 198cms. Versatile tall forward behind Cameron, Patton, Lobb. More tall forwards on Giants incoming group.  Stewart is 22, from Sandringham and would be a very addition ruck, forward or tall back option.

 

Edited July 23, 20169 yr by spirit of norm smith
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Is Matt Jones working his way into some trade value? Don't get me wrong, he's been pretty good lately, I just don't think he suits our needs at the moment. Considering our age profile, we really need to maximise the leadership in our older ranks, and on that front I don't consider him to be the right fit. No idea who to bring in, and I'm ok with him re-signing on a 'foot soldier' contract considering his form. Just asking the question. Can he be the 'but wait there's more'  for something?

4 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

Is it possible we've already signed Sharrod Wellingham? Been good for us today.

How is it possible that Collingwood are so ordinary when they've managed to get so much value offloading players who contribute so little? (e.g. Wellingham, Dawes, Thomas)

If only we could match their strategy - first round pick for Dunn?

They managed to deskill their players by playing Malthouse dribble and then ruin several of their players both current and former with terrible fitness and injury management. 

Thomas, Dawes and Wellingham were 3 traded out, but plenty others like Cloke, Reid and so on stayed and aren't close to the players they used to be.

We have to make and win a few finals first before cleverly trading some offcuts. The Hawks have done it better than most.

6 minutes ago, FireInTheBelly said:

Is Matt Jones working his way into some trade value? Don't get me wrong, he's been pretty good lately, I just don't think he suits our needs at the moment. Considering our age profile, we really need to maximise the leadership in our older ranks, and on that front I don't consider him to be the right fit. No idea who to bring in, and I'm ok with him re-signing on a 'foot soldier' contract considering his form. Just asking the question. Can he be the 'but wait there's more'  for something?

Soon to be 29 journeyman who can't nail down a regular spot for Melbourne. He has absolutely no value. A really bad team - which is Brisbane and that's it, could take him for free but that's it.

I think he'll stay as he's a handy fringe player on a wing in a position we don't have a lot of depth in. 1 more year probably ends a handy career for a bloke plucked from the VFL.