INSIGNIFICANT.

[Adam The God 30,212]

Just as a side note, I like how [censored] off some of us are. That's passion. There are still those Demons pedalling pathetic excuses, but this really is edge of the cliff stuff and it implores me to quote the oft-used and overused Network: "I'M AS MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!"

Bloody hell, how sweet it'll be when things finally start [censored] turning.

Edited April 8, 2016 by AdamFarr

[stranga 328]

Wasn't the scarf waving after a comeback against west coast? 

[DSP 1,488]

24 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

If the players are anywhere near as gut wrenchingly furious as most supporters they'll be itching to get out there and relishing the chance to smash some North bodies from the first bounce. Let's see what they're made of and/or how much they care.

Talking about worst H&A losses is it coincidence that 3 I can think of were against the Bombers? Last week, 148 and (going back a bit) ANZAC Day 1992 when we lost after being 47 points up in the last quarter. Of course we've had some good wins against them too, 2012, 2013 and both H&A games in 1990.

And here within lies a massive part of the problem. When is the last time melbourne really came out on the ground wanting to eat lightning and crap thunder, especially after a loss?

I just want to be able to go to a footy match knowing that my team wants to win and will fight tooth and nail to the end, everytime regardless of the oppostion. I dont get that and havent since rev was maning the ship.

Our team is happy to rest on the laurels of a single win (which was due to gws' abysmal kicking). Whoop dee do, crack out the champagne fellas. We went into the bombers game flat and lifeless and it was rnd 2.

Norf will eat us alive given half a chance. Their supposed 'slow' midfield will carve us up. Anything.. anything less than 100% effort, 100% of the time should not be tolerated.

Lets see how significant we really are. ..

 

Edited April 8, 2016 by DSP

[Adam The God 30,212]

7 minutes ago, stranga said:

Wasn't the scarf waving after a comeback against west coast? 

That's how I remembered it, but I may have blocked it out.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,854]

7 minutes ago, stranga said:

Wasn't the scarf waving after a comeback against west coast? 

Yep, in '93.

Edited April 8, 2016 by Ethan Tremblay

[Dr. Gonzo 24,206]

3 minutes ago, stranga said:

Wasn't the scarf waving after a comeback against west coast? 

Yeah it was. The game I'm referring to is the one Supermercado refers to as the "Chris Sullivan line" for those who read Every Day Is Like Sunday. 41 points up at 3/4 time kicked the first goal of the last and then watched as Essendon kicked 8 straight to snatched the win.

1 minute ago, DSP said:

And here within lies a massive part of the problem. When is the last time melbourne really came out on the ground wanting to eat lightning and crap thunder, especially after a loss?

I just want to be able to go to a footy match knowing that my team wants to win and will fight tooth and nail to the end, everytime regardless of the oppostion. I dont get that and havent since rev was maning the ship.

Our team is happy to rest on the laurels of a single win (which was due to gws' abysmal kicking). Whoop dee do, crack out the champagne fellas. We went into the bombers game flat and lifeless and it was rnd 2.

Norf will eat us alive given half a chance. Their supposed 'slow' midfield will carve us up. Anything.. anything less than 100% effort, 100% of the time should not be tolerated.

I just don't get it. I know a lot of the list has turned over etc etc but this club should be playing with a chip on its shoulder and a point to prove. Just seems whenever we're challenged we crumble like a sack of you know what. Not just now been happening for decades. Different players, different coaches, different administration and board, different headquarters same result.

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2 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Yeah it was. The game I'm referring to is the one Supermercado refers to as the "Chris Sullivan line" for those who read Every Day Is Like Sunday. 41 points up at 3/4 time kicked the first goal of the last and then watched as Essendon kicked different headquarters same result.

I remember it well even though I was 10 years old listening on the radio. At 3 qtr time I ran outside to tell my dad we were smashing them and would win. My dad, a wise experienced demon fan, said annoyingly "don't assume anything with Melbourne". The rest is history. Not much has changed.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,206]

31 minutes ago, stranga said:

I remember it well even though I was 10 years old listening on the radio. At 3 qtr time I ran outside to tell my dad we were smashing them and would win. My dad, a wise experienced demon fan, said annoyingly "don't assume anything with Melbourne". The rest is history. Not much has changed.

Haha you and me are the same vintage mate - I was 10 at the time too however I was unfortunate enough to be at the game ...couldn't believe what I was witnessing. I'd seen us lose games we should win before, but not like that!

[Je Roos Salem 661]

I'm not ready to plunge into the depths of Demon despair after Round 2.  It's not 2013 anymore. Saturday was disappointing but it wasn't among the worst performances I've seen. We're not at the level yet where we play comfortably with hype/favouritism but I'm happy to sit here 1-1 and I'm confident we'll find a way to bounce back 

Edited April 8, 2016 by Je Roos Salem

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

5 hours ago, Je Roos Salem said:

I'm not ready to plunge into the depths of Demon despair after Round 2.  It's not 2013 anymore. Saturday was disappointing but it wasn't among the worst performances I've seen. We're not at the level yet where we play comfortably with hype/favouritism but I'm happy to sit here 1-1 and I'm confident we'll find a way to bounce back 

Have you forgotten the same lame performances against the Bombers and Carlton in the second half of last season?  Something like this happening once every few seasons is excusable but 3 times in less than a full seasons worth of games is inexcusable. Goes deeper than just a terrible performance. This is cancerous soul destroying stuff.

Edited April 8, 2016 by america de cali

[WhyAlwaysMe 237]

4 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Have you forgotten the same lame performances against the Bombers and Carlton in the second half of last season?  Something like this happening once every few seasons is excusable but 3 times in less than a full seasons games is inexcusable. Goes deeper than just a terrible performance.

its actually a bit worse than that, since mid last year we have played 6 games we have been expected to win, twice Bombers & Saints and once Blues & Lions.

we beat Lions 8 goals to 4. thats all 

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

22 minutes ago, WhyAlwaysMe said:

its actually a bit worse than that, since mid last year we have played 6 games we have been expected to win, twice Bombers & Saints and once Blues & Lions.

we beat Lions 8 goals to 4. thats all 

Yes we were favourite's in those games but Saints and Lions were not the hopeless rabble that the other two were who suddenly appear like finals contenders when they  cross our path. 

Edited April 8, 2016 by america de cali

[WhyAlwaysMe 237]

6 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Yes we were favourite's in those games but Saints and Lions were not the hopeless rabble that the other two were who suddenly appear to play with fire and passion when they cross our path. 

other than beating us Saints beat 1 team that didn't finish bottom 4, we were part of an 11 game losing streak for the Loins.

RABBLE

[He Neeldy deestroyed us 6]

The stats don't lie! and Melbourne where as bad as they have been since Paul Roos took over, Ben Kennedy was the only player to meet the required work rate on Saturday, I am struggling to understand how a hand picked team of competitors can get smashed all over the ground by a team that was put together in December?!?!  It's the coaches job to get the players mentally prepared for each game, and Melbourne rocked up on Saturday like it was still NAB cup! 

We are getting better,there is no doubt in that, some of our wins last year completely prove that! But there is some bipolar mind crap going on down at the club we love, can't help but think a fresh attacking mindset (Goodwin) couldn't come quick enough, I respect everything that Paul has done for us, the club and talent on the  list is in a fantastic position to take the next step, but the yo-yo mental preparation that continues to happen needs to be addressed. 

[In Harmes Way 7,756]

2 hours ago, He Neeldy deestroyed us said:

The stats don't lie! and Melbourne where as bad as they have been since Paul Roos took over, Ben Kennedy was the only player to meet the required work rate on Saturday, I am struggling to understand how a hand picked team of competitors can get smashed all over the ground by a team that was put together in December?!?!  It's the coaches job to get the players mentally prepared for each game, and Melbourne rocked up on Saturday like it was still NAB cup! 

We are getting better,there is no doubt in that, some of our wins last year completely prove that! But there is some bipolar mind crap going on down at the club we love, can't help but think a fresh attacking mindset (Goodwin) couldn't come quick enough, I respect everything that Paul has done for us, the club and talent on the  list is in a fantastic position to take the next step, but the yo-yo mental preparation that continues to happen needs to be addressed. 

Great first post

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

For those who say we were worse in the 1970's and early 80's  should look at the stats. 

Whilst not something to crow about we averaged 6.95 wins not counting draws per season between 1970 and 1986 and 7.1 wins if we look at the period between 1970 and 1980. Between 1981 and 1986 we averaged 6.6 wins per season.

In 1971 and 1976 we had 11 wins and just missed the final 4. 

Between 2007 and 2015 we averaged 5 wins per season. 

This current era has plumbed new depths of mediocrity by a significant margin and is no doubt the worst ever period of our history.

Edited April 9, 2016 by america de cali

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

Id love to see a massive response against North this weekend. I hope we respond but i doubt well win. We'll need a rd 11 v geelong type effort to win. North are a very good team.

What I'm really interested in is round 4 and 5. Against thr pies and tigers this will really tell us if we are improving or not. We win both we could be 3-2 and all is good in the world again. 

But if we loose and are 1 -4 well its going to be a looooooong season

[bush demon 2,039]

4 hours ago, america de cali said:

For those who say we were worse in the 1970's and early 80's  should look at the stats. 

Whilst not something to crow about we averaged 6.95 wins not counting draws per season between 1970 and 1986 and 7.1 wins if we look at the period between 1970 and 1980. Between 1981 and 1986 we averaged 6.6 wins per season.

In 1971 and 1976 we had 11 wins and just missed the final 4. 

Between 2007 and 2015 we averaged 5 wins per season. 

This current era has plumbed new depths of mediocrity by a significant margin and is no doubt the worst ever period of our history.

I was there in the 70's, and the southern stand had a deafening roar of demons, plus thumping and stomping when the Dees got a rattle on. Two great seasons were '71 and d'76. 

We had Alves Wells Flower which tops anything since. We had Dillon and Parke as forwards and we had the fantastic Gary Hardeman at centre half back taking

massive grabs and spraying the ball 60 metres high into the air (lol).  We were unlucky not to make the finals under Bobby Skilton ('76) and big Carl gave us some inspiring efforts when he took over as coach. the late 70's were lamentable, esp when dennis jones was in charge. otherwise, the 70's cacks all over the last ten years. 

DEMONS!  DU DU DU  DEMONS! DU DU DU.   DU DU   DU DU DU    DU DU DU DU  DU DU ...............DEMONS. Who could forget. That's when we had a fan base. 

[bush demon 2,039]

1 minute ago, bush demon said:

I was there in the 70's, and the southern stand had a deafening roar of demons, plus thumping and stomping when the Dees got a rattle on. Two great seasons were '71 and d'76. 

We had Alves Wells Flower which tops anything since. We had Dillon and Parke as forwards and we had the fantastic Gary Hardeman at centre half back taking

massive grabs and spraying the ball 60 metres high into the air (lol).  We were unlucky not to make the finals under Bobby Skilton ('76) and big Carl gave us some inspiring efforts when he took over as coach. the late 70's were lamentable, esp when dennis jones was in charge. otherwise, the 70's cacks all over the last ten years. 

DEMONS!  DU DU DU  DEMONS! DU DU DU.   DU DU   DU DU DU    DU DU DU DU  DU DU ...............DEMONS. Who could forget. That's when we had a fan base. 

I would go further and say that the last ten years mark a new ratcheting down of the club. since 1965 we have become an ordinary average team with occasional good seasons. in the last ten years we have become serial cellar dwellars. if roos can get us out of there ie into the top 12, we should have a gala night at the melbourne town hall with free tarax and coca cola thrown in for the kiddies. 

[Roost It 1,434]

On 4/8/2016 at 0:12 PM, H_T said:

This description^ is exactly how I and many supporters felt at the G about the team and club. The erosion in confidence was significant; dare I say it damaging. One of a basket case. It could effectively undo some great work.

It has arguably cost the club $400K in membership drive according to some - and I'm inclined to agree. Not much can be done now, what's done is done.... Unless.....

They must bounce back and make a SIGNIFICANT statement this week in Hobart. Otherwise the blowtorch will be turned up fiercely on not only the players but the Goodwin-Roos handover if any pathetic displays continue. 

Starting like they did against the Bombers is a sure sign by many they are not playing for their coach. Or the coach is not doing his job. 

Last weekends result should not be a performance from a team coming off 7 wins in 2015 and an improved off season - a side on the up - particularly at Round Two.

Excuses of players feeling tired are false - a slap in the face to all in sundry - and will not be tolerated by the Board. Nor should they.

http://www.sen.com.au/news/afl/04-16/demons-must-bounce-back-or-face-insignificance-denham#5wOPDx7uaWEFWPmt.97

 

May the the next 2-3 weeks be SIGNIFICANT performances and wins! Leaders need to recognise, stand up, deliver and collectively want to strive for the ultimate in football. It's not just about being competitive - it's about excelling in the competition.

 

You're totally dramatising like most on here. The fact is we have played 1 good quarter and beat GWS who then beat Geelong who beat Hawthorn. Then we played terribly and still were in front with 10 mins left against a side who beat us on emotion and with their better effort on the spread. It's hardly time to slit your wrists. We'll beat North or go very close. They aren't quick and we should be able to exploit that. Hogan to kick 5

[Je Roos Salem 661]

11 hours ago, america de cali said:

Have you forgotten the same lame performances against the Bombers and Carlton in the second half of last season?  Something like this happening once every few seasons is excusable but 3 times in less than a full seasons worth of games is inexcusable. Goes deeper than just a terrible performance. This is cancerous soul destroying stuff.

I think the gap in supporter response was no way representative of the team's performance between R1-2. I'm very disappointed we continue to get our pants pulled down when we go in favourites but at least we're in a position to win and I find that less soul destroying than the continuous beltings from around '12-14. 

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

19 minutes ago, Je Roos Salem said:

I think the gap in supporter response was no way representative of the team's performance between R1-2. I'm very disappointed we continue to get our pants pulled down when we go in favourites but at least we're in a position to win and I find that less soul destroying than the continuous beltings from around '12-14. 

Would you be happy for another 6 to 7 win season? Would you be happy once we don't have a mathematical chance of making the finals  the players shut up shop for the second half of the season? That where we are at with this pathetic attitude. Another flucking stillborn wasted season.

Edited April 9, 2016 by america de cali

[Return to Glory 8,434]

On ‎8‎/‎04‎/‎2016 at 10:42 PM, AdamFarr said:

Interesting post this, mate. Whilst I completely agree, to me it implies that the Essendon loss has to be the line in the sand moment and in retrospect would become almost 'the loss we had to have'. Of course, I don't believe this now as last weekend was in the top five most pitiful MFC performances (186, 148 and then that game), but I wouldn't have believed we'd win the first 5-6 games anyway, however if that loss causes something to stir in the bellies of these players and gets them on the right track, then fantastic.

But a part of me still wants blood for last week, no matter what we do for the rest of the season. This group hadn't even earned my trust fully and now they're coming from a long way back. The FD that I did trust has a lot of work to do to regain my trust. The selections, the comments by Misson saying Garlett would 'definitely' play etc. If we don't start to see improvement soon, PJ will need to make some big calls, just like in any other business.

Insightful post imo AF. Agree. And as a Dees supporter there's only so many line- in- the -sand games you can have before you run out of sand (Confucius).

[H_T 3,043]

On 4/9/2016 at 6:26 PM, Roost It said:

You're totally dramatising like most on here. The fact is we have played 1 good quarter and beat GWS who then beat Geelong who beat Hawthorn. Then we played terribly and still were in front with 10 mins left against a side who beat us on emotion and with their better effort on the spread. It's hardly time to slit your wrists. We'll beat North or go very close. They aren't quick and we should be able to exploit that. Hogan to kick 5

At the time I don't feel I was totally dramatising. They thoroughly deserve the blowtorch at that point, because as it has shown, if there is little effort and poor execution in this comp applied, teams will take you to the cleaners.

Removing the Essendon game, our form is now stacking up, very well I would say. 

Which makes the Essendon game all the more disappointing.

That said, they were with Geelong for a large portion of their game....

You were right about the North game - reason? We applied effort, will and belief for the majority of that game. And one mighty effort from both Gawn and Viney.

 

 

[Roost It 1,434]

On 4/18/2016 at 0:43 PM, H_T said:

At the time I don't feel I was totally dramatising. They thoroughly deserve the blowtorch at that point, because as it has shown, if there is little effort and poor execution in this comp applied, teams will take you to the cleaners.

Removing the Essendon game, our form is now stacking up, very well I would say. 

Which makes the Essendon game all the more disappointing.

That said, they were with Geelong for a large portion of their game....

You were right about the North game - reason? We applied effort, will and belief for the majority of that game. And one mighty effort from both Gawn and Viney.

 

 

People were dramatising. Our form is going to be up and down. It's just what young teams are like