1 hour ago, monoccular said:

Does that just exemplify the difference between human and artificial intelligence?

yes, but also no

Father-son is pot luck, we'll get our chance at some point. White may make it in the end but I think it's fair to say he's not going to be a game changer for us given his output in the unders right now.

1 minute ago, Howard_Grimes said:

Father-son is pot luck, we'll get our chance at some point. White may make it in the end but I think it's fair to say he's not going to be a game changer for us given his output in the unders right now.

in fairness, when he was selected max gawn was yet to be the cultural and game-changing force that he's been for over a decade now

give kalani time to grow into his body i reckon

that last half of his only vfl performance was super encouraging for mine

Kalani White may take 2-3 years to fully mature but he has footy IQ and natural ability on his side, he will develop quickly once in the DNA and standing 200cm with a great spring could play fwd/ back or ruck.

12 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

in fairness, when he was selected max gawn was yet to be the cultural and game-changing force that he's been for over a decade now

give kalani time to grow into his body i reckon

that last half of his only vfl performance was super encouraging for mine

Gawn had injuries galore in his under 18's year which is why he went as late as he did so it's a very different scenario.

As I've said, I'm not writing White off as a player in general. What I am writing off is that he will be the game changing top pick we all had hoped. I mean he's potentially going to be taken in the fourth round at this point. And this is after a full year of 18's without injury, the advantage that comes with being part of an academy and having a father who played AFL.

21 hours ago, Howard_Grimes said:

I'm not writing White off as a player in general.

Very big of you

3 hours ago, monoccular said:

Very big of you

Thanks.

Any thoughts on White of your own?

it's interesting that cody walker - who is eligible for the baggers as father-son and the tigs as an nga - has declared over 18 months or so out from his draft that he's headed to the former

obviously a bit different in that he's rated in the top handful of players in his draft, but it would be great if kalani was declarative in terms of his intentions

Edited July 25Jul 25 by whatwhat say what

W Duursma and Kalani featuring at Casey this week

Shame we don’t have an early Round 1 for Duursma this year but great that they are lining up for Casey.

On 24/07/2025 at 09:11, Howard_Grimes said:

Father-son is pot luck, we'll get our chance at some point. White may make it in the end but I think it's fair to say he's not going to be a game changer for us given his output in the unders right now.

I think that's wrong to judge at this stage

7 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

it's interesting that cody walker - who is eligible for the baggers as father-son and the tigs as an nga - has declared over 18 months or so out from his draft that he's headed to the former

obviously a bit different in that he's rated in the top handful of players in his draft, but it would be great if kalani was declarative in terms of his intentions

I'm more confident if he was living in Vic then it would be a done deal.

By living up north and, well, 'sitting on the fence' he gets the chance to continue to develop with the Suns lads in all their top notch academy programs.

At least that's what I'm telling myself

18 minutes ago, Deeko2 said:

I'm more confident if he was living in Vic then it would be a done deal.

By living up north and, well, 'sitting on the fence' he gets the chance to continue to develop with the Suns lads in all their top notch academy programs.

At least that's what I'm telling myself

And historically his old man would have made mince meat of his Carlton opposite.

52 minutes ago, Willmoy1947 said:

I think that's wrong to judge at this stage

Will be more than happy to be proven incorrect :)

10 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

it's interesting that cody walker - who is eligible for the baggers as father-son and the tigs as an nga - has declared over 18 months or so out from his draft that he's headed to the former

obviously a bit different in that he's rated in the top handful of players in his draft, but it would be great if kalani was declarative in terms of his intentions

If he declared for Melbourne, Gold Coast would cut him out of their academy, the training,coaches, VFL squad opportunities etc.

The fact he is coming down and playing and training with Casey really telegraphs which direction he is headed.

34 minutes ago, deanox said:

If he declared for Melbourne, Gold Coast would cut him out of their academy, the training,coaches, VFL squad opportunities etc.

The fact he is coming down and playing and training with Casey really telegraphs which direction he is headed.

That would say more about gc17 than anything

Don’t think Walker has left tigs nga

KW has been invited to the State-based draft combine.

quite the fall from grace to not even get a national combine invite, think its 5 noms out of 18 gets you there and 2+ to get a state based invite (dont hold me to those figures)

list spots will be fairly tight given the lack of depth so clubs arent going to take many picks to the draft, we can almost rookie him. Sinnema not even invited yet (this was peliminary state noms, more players can be added to that beyond this point. I imagine us and GC17 requested to see KW at the national combine

5 minutes ago, Turner said:

quite the fall from grace to not even get a national combine invite, think its 5 noms out of 18 gets you there and 2+ to get a state based invite (dont hold me to those figures)

list spots will be fairly tight given the lack of depth so clubs arent going to take many picks to the draft, we can almost rookie him. Sinnema not even invited yet (this was peliminary state noms, more players can be added to that beyond this point. I imagine us and GC17 requested to see KW at the national combine

Why would another club nominate him? They know he's coming to us or the suns

9 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Why would another club nominate him? They know he's coming to us or the suns

agreed; same with sinnema

i suspect they'll both be coming to us as very late / rookie picks

15 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

agreed; same with sinnema

i suspect they'll both be coming to us as very late / rookie picks

I believe Sinema/Prasad can be drafted as a cat B rookie via our NGA - same as Mentha + AMW

We'll lose Kalani now. Why would he want to leave his backyard and miss out on playing for a team on the up.

16 minutes ago, Bowserpower said:

We'll lose Kalani now. Why would he want to leave his backyard and miss out on playing for a team on the up.

mate, yr doing mfcss all wrong; when things are glum there's worse to come

ergo, he's no good - of course he's coming to us!

go full hanrahan

1 hour ago, Mickey said:

Why would another club nominate him? They know he's coming to us or the suns

Due diligence. Teams can still place bids and end up with said player if they club doesn't match. Riak Andrew being an example of this last year when Sydney bid for him late in the national and we passed so we could select Aiden Johnson.

1 hour ago, MrFreeze said:

I believe Sinema/Prasad can be drafted as a cat B rookie via our NGA - same as Mentha + AMW

They can if no one places a bid on them in the national draft.