I was sad to see him go and thought we had made a mistake.

We lost Melksham, Salem, and Lumumba to suspension and injury. Garland has proved Stevethemanjordan correct and Dunn has mysteriously fallen completely out of favour after a good season last year.

Yet we still managed to uncover Hunt and Wagner. Plus White is waiting in the wings.

There is no doubt it was the right desision to move him on.

Edited July 7, 20169 yr by Night Crawler

5 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Try not to type too fast you make mistakes

I thought you said whatever the players say to supporters when they ask questions is not to be believed, or is that not the case for you?

It is your opinion, the role he was playing didn't require him to do a lot of kicking, his role was to float around pissing on fires which he did exceptionally well

I also had a chat to him at the start of pre season

It is always you that has to denigrate, either players or posters, ever though the issue may be you, probably not, couldn't see through the narcissistic haze

Again completely missed the point i was trying to point out to you. 

One last time for the simpleton like yourself. The question was put forward that Should Daniel Cross stayed on another year to help down back to utilize his kicking skills which i pointed out that no it wouldn't because, 

1. His penetration and skill level was starting to decline and on the back half of the year was kicking floaters and turning it over.

2. Him staying on another year would mean less games for a Josh Wagner and Jayden Hunt. It stalls development. 

And yes he was good at intercepting marks and chopping off forward entries. But so is Josh Wagner who is starting to show those glimpse.

I have great admiration for Cross and was filthy he was let go but now hindsight is that club made right choice.

I still dont understand why you are being a spoilt little brat over this. I'm a massive Cross fan and was NOT 'denigrate' towards him at all.

"How many AFL games have you played"

Spare me Saty seriously.. Oh and well done on taking a pot shot at Demonland once again. Heres a little tip.. If you can't handle supporters opinions on football take a little holiday for yourself.. in fact do me a favour while your at it.

 

Edited July 7, 20169 yr by dazzledavey36

I had a chat with Crossy at training over summer. He had been working on the side oval with Tracc doing run throughs. Asked him if it was good to be back working at the club and he said he was loving it. Big smile. Clearly the disappointment of not getting another year didn't last long.

With the rise of Hunt and Wagner, we made the right call. And the competition across the backline will increase next year as Salem, Milkshake and (hopefully) Lumumba come back into the mix.

I would've been very happy for him to stay on but if you look at how Grimes has been an emergency for much of this year it's not hard to imagine Crossy being in and out of the side. We've had emergence from some good young talent and while we might not get the consistency we got with Cross I think we'll benefit from the development and those young guys will benefit from having Crossy as a mentor.

6 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Thought you might pop up and misinterpret what I said, whilst you have some backup of course, anybody can talk to a player, I just don't denigrate, if you denigrate then the player would be right to have an unfavourable opinion of you, if you discuss with them, they discuss, but as I have said, any answer from a player to a supporter is not to be believed surely?  

Mate, all you do is denigrate posters on here. Most of your two and a half thousand posts on here are you flaming others.

It was the right decision at the time and it remains the right decision. Any player who is not part of our next finals side is on borrowed time, irrespective of their qualities as a player and person.

8 minutes ago, poita said:

It was the right decision at the time and it remains the right decision. Any player who is not part of our next finals side is on borrowed time, irrespective of their qualities as a player and person.

I don't think you have a right to say that Poita because you haven't played AFL before. 

How ignorant of you 

Cross was one of the least selfish players I think the AFL has ever known.

He may have been personally disappointed with his career coming to an end, but my god I doubt he holds a single grudge and can't see that him leaving has allowed a number of young players to develop a year earlier. 

If he had such a massive problem with the decision, he wouldn't still be working at the club.

For once we made the right decision, and were able to continue to utilize Crossy in the best possible way.

If you wanna bring up past mistakes made with senior players, why don't we reopen the old wound that is James McDonald... now that was one awful mess!

1 hour ago, Jaded said:

 

If you wanna bring up past mistakes made with senior players, why don't we reopen the old wound that is James McDonald... now that was one awful mess!

Interesting - To this day I am not sure if it was mistake or if it wasn't - all i know it was handled appallingly 

Probably the right decision to move him on, but we could use his experience, cool head and superb contested marking in our defensive 50 these days. 

59 minutes ago, nutbean said:

Interesting - To this day I am not sure if it was mistake or if it wasn't - all i know it was handled appallingly 

Massive mistake, ripped the cultural heart out of the club and he still had a couple of years left to give. After he left we were left with a massive void of experience to help guide the young players and the youngsters suffered as a result. We have a similar issue now but we have more experienced leaders around the club now, even they aren't paying in the firsts. 

19 hours ago, Dante said:

Boy you really know how to turn a simple comment in to a War; settle down.

 

Nah sorry can't resist agaist those two knowitalls     go back to the pre season training reports where they were denigrating me for talking to the players saying what was said was not to be believed, yet DoubleD quotes as gospel, you have to correct hypocrisy

Fawning over players from behind the fence at training with autograph book in hand is not even in the same ball park as Dazzle playing alongside Crossy and then having social beers with him afterwards. Like comparing Asti Riccadonna with a well aged Heathcote red.

Edited July 8, 20169 yr by Moonshadow

11 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Fawning over players from behind the fence at training with autograph book in hand is not even in the same ball park as Dazzle playing alongside Crossy and then having social beers with him afterwards. Like comparing Asti Riccadonna with a well aged Heathcote red.

Wish i played alongside him Moon but it was a game earlier on the year. Tore our midfield a new [censored] to be perfectly honest.

But dead set legend and went out his way to talk to few of us boys and his experience.

On 08/07/2016 at 11:56 AM, Chris said:

Massive mistake, ripped the cultural heart out of the club and he still had a couple of years left to give. After he left we were left with a massive void of experience to help guide the young players and the youngsters suffered as a result. We have a similar issue now but we have more experienced leaders around the club now, even they aren't paying in the firsts. 

I think the biggest difference was that Crossy had approached the club asking them for a response on his playing future in the next week or so. The club may have done things a bit differently if given a different time frame but with the situation being what it was, they were honest and said no. The fact that Crossy returned to the club after the decision (after a period of understandable disappointment) shows that the club handled it right.
I have to say this is a rumour but from what I have heard is that Junior was told on a flight to (or from?) Adelaide that next week would be his last game. No consultation, no time to respond. Against a backdrop of constant veteran delistings, it was like throwing petrol on a bonfire; basically telling the group that loyalty, record or effort didn't really amount to a pile of beans. Like a draft horse who had outlived it's usefulness, we will put a slug in your head as soon as we deem your time is up.
I think the turning point on how we treat long term servants changed to some extent when Flash retired. As far as I can tell, he was fully informed and was given a decent farewell upon leaving.

Edited July 9, 20169 yr by Colin B. Flaubert
Don't post after just waking up.

13 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

I think the biggest difference was that Crossy had approached the club asking them for a response on his playing future in the next week or so. The club may have done things a bit differently if given a different time frame but with the situation being what it was, they were honest and said no. The fact that Crossy returned to the club after the decision (after a period of understandable disappointment) shows that the club handled it right.
I have to say this is a rumour but from what I have heard is that Junior was told on a flight to (or from?) Adelaide that next week would be his next game. No consultation, no time to respond. Against a backdrop of constant veteran delistings, it was like throwing petrol on a bonfire; basically telling the group that loyalty, record or effort didn't really amount to a pile of beans. Like a draft horse who had outlived it's usefulness, we will put a slug in your head as soon as we deem your time is up.
I think the turning point on how we treat long term servants changed to some extent when Flash retired. As far as I can tell, he was fully informed and was given a decent farewell upon leaving.

That next week would be his next game? Isn't it usually that way?

2 minutes ago, Skin D said:

That next week would be his next game? Isn't it usually that way?

On a plane ride? Most times someone is going to be let go (sacked) in any line of work, unless you have arsed up magnificently, they will do you the courtesy of of sitting you down at a pre arranged meeting to tell you why you are being let go (at least if you are a legitimate organization).

Obviously he means "next week would be his last game."