When will we learn?

When will we Roos learn?

Its the person kicking in.. not the fact there is a loose man, lower their eyes and a loose man is irrelevant

Its the person kicking in.. not the fact there is a loose man, lower their eyes and a loose man is irrelevant

Man up the loose man and he no longer becomes an issue. Nothing wrong with long kicks into the forward line, in fact it is the best way to play if you have the targets there to kick it to.

If you can kick to a bloke on a lead you dont need to bomb long and hope jesse holds a mark, won't win many games playing like that.

Man up the loose man and he no longer becomes an issue. Nothing wrong with long kicks into the forward line, in fact it is the best way to play if you have the targets there to kick it to.

Roos seems enamored with the idea that having an extra man at the contest is better than manning their loose player up. Clearly it's not working at all.

If you can kick to a bloke on a lead you dont need to bomb long and hope jesse holds a mark, won't win many games playing like that.

Just about every game we have lost has been because of the loose man in defence.

Roos expects the players to learn from their mistakes but he won't even learn from his own

Hypocrite

Disagree clint, we lose because of a number of failings, inability to change tact in game, poor leadership,weak efforts, a team that doesn't play as a team.

Roos isn't coaching to our strengths, he is coaching to what we need to perform to to be a good side. Our mids simply need to learn to lower their eyes and kick to a leading target and our forwards need to make sure they can bring the ball to ground and create opportunities for our crumbers. Manning up the loose man might win us a game or two but our players won't learn anything.

Man up the loose man and he no longer becomes an issue. Nothing wrong with long kicks into the forward line, in fact it is the best way to play if you have the targets there to kick it to.

Rubbish - there were vast periods of today's game where we manned up their loose man (or they took him out) yet we continued to bomb it long inside 50 with no purpose or plan, and watched Essendon mop up from those kicks.

We clearly don't deal with the loose man well, but the overarching problem is that our half-forward line is woeful and our midfielders are dumb, leading to bad kicks inside 50 even when we have the right positioning forward of centre.

Paul Roos isn’t good tactically.

Op teams have worked it out. Have a spare man in defence against Melb, their forward line is easilyshut down. Roos et al haven't worked it out.

Paul Roos isnt good tactically.

Roos isn't there to coach tactics, he's there to put the foundations in place that make it difficult to expose us. I remember in 2010/11 when Davey would constantly receive handballs from our young players so that he could distribute the ball through the midfield. We won some games and then fell in a heap when opposition started to closely check Davey. What was worse is that our younger players didn't learn to distribute the ball.

Every team for the rest of the season will play a spare defender against us. We need to learn quickly to either work around it or man it up or it's going to be a long 9 weeks

Roos seems enamored with the idea that having an extra man at the contest is better than manning their loose player up. Clearly it's not working at all.

Basically Geelong's game plan that won 3 premierships.......

If you can kick to a bloke on a lead you dont need to bomb long and hope jesse holds a mark, won't win many games playing like that.

Especially when he lets his man outbody him most of the game

Plenty of other sides allow their opponents to play a loose man in defence. They counter it in other ways - usually that involves their own spare man having an effect on the game. Whenever our opponent drops one back, it's like we're playing one down, as if they've added the spare man to their 18.

Part of the reason the tactic is working against us is because we're unable to generate anything from our own spare man, and we're also unable to generate anything when we man that spare man up - clogging our forward line seems to rob us of impetus.

Op teams have worked it out. Have a spare man in defence against Melb, their forward line is easilyshut down. Roos et al haven't worked it out.

Not only that, but because we're happy to leave it 7 vs 6, their spare can run it out of defence at will.

They seemed to play with only 4 forwards most of the game....