The Incredible Hulk - Jesse Hogan

[daisycutter 29,310]

11 minutes ago, pineapple dee said:

They're not rebuilding, they're " in transition "

We didn't tank, We "brought the game into disrepute "

It's  all semantics.

i though we "managed development" 

[praha 11,107]

You'd think his management would be screaming out at him to stay in Melbourne. Over the last few years most if not all of the young guns who have "gone home" to Perth have come from QLD, NSW etc. And then you have those coming back to Melbourne. Scully is the exception but we know why he left.

Hogan isn't going anywhere.

[What 18,810]

Freo are  total mess...  but IF Jesee wanted to go home to Perth why doesnt anyone ever mention West Coast?

 

He will be a 1 club player anyway

[Dr. Gonzo 23,700]

3 hours ago, deelighted3 said:

I did hear a whisper the involvement of the current coach going forward is having a bearing on drawing out the talks to seasons end. In fact i think there is quite a few players looking forward to the coach in waiting taking over. I reckon he will sign at the end of the year, once its clearer what the coaching structure is.  

Are you saying players want to make sure Roos is gone before re-signing?

[Adam The God 29,331]

25 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Are you saying players want to make sure Roos is gone before re-signing?

Sounds reasonably ridiculous to me...

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

4 hours ago, Peter Griffen said:

If us improving is so big a factor for Jesse's decision, why would he then leave when we do improve and Freo are a huge chance for the wooden spoon?

 

As I already explained. Money. I don't think any one thing makes any player's mind up. Decisions this big involve all the usual things. Homesickness, money, girlfriends, team success and trust in the club. Every year there's big names being looked at and every year they leave. All I'm saying is team success alone doesn't mean as much as people think, or Bernie wouldn't have come over.

[AzzKikA 2,371]

23 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

If a club is willing to dedicate a large portion of their salary cap to one player then it will be a massive gamble.

*cough* Bulldogs *cough*

[Ted Lasso 18,771]

On 4/29/2016 at 2:08 PM, Dappa Dan said:

As I already explained. Money. I don't think any one thing makes any player's mind up. Decisions this big involve all the usual things. Homesickness, money, girlfriends, team success and trust in the club. Every year there's big names being looked at and every year they leave. All I'm saying is team success alone doesn't mean as much as people think, or Bernie wouldn't have come over.

Sure, but the MFC would clearly be able to pay him the dollars he's worth as well, and allow him to play at the MCG every other week, and not have to fly every second week.

[Longsufferingnomore 1,609]

1 hour ago, Dappa Dan said:

As I already explained. Money. I don't think any one thing makes any player's mind up. Decisions this big involve all the usual things. Homesickness, money, girlfriends, team success and trust in the club. Every year there's big names being looked at and every year they leave. All I'm saying is team success alone doesn't mean as much as people think, or Bernie wouldn't have come over.

Am I wrong but didn't Bernie get a little nudge

[Dr. Gonzo 23,700]

1 hour ago, Dappa Dan said:

As I already explained. Money. I don't think any one thing makes any player's mind up. Decisions this big involve all the usual things. Homesickness, money, girlfriends, team success and trust in the club. Every year there's big names being looked at and every year they leave. All I'm saying is team success alone doesn't mean as much as people think, or Bernie wouldn't have come over.

Vince was pushed out the door by the Crows.

[Elusive Tunbridge 795]

1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Are you saying players want to make sure Roos is gone before re-signing?

If Jesse isn't clear what the coaching structure will be next year, he'd have to be a little bit thick.

[AzzKikA 2,371]

Just now, Elusive Tunbridge said:

If Jesse isn't clear what the coaching structure will be next year, he'd have to be a little bit thick.

Nice kid, little bit dumb.

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,379]

4 minutes ago, longsuffering said:

Am I wrong but didn't Bernie get a little nudge

Bernie was thrown.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

1 minute ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Bernie was thrown.

Brenton Sanderson's doing?

[nutbean 8,838]

10 minutes ago, AzzKikA said:

*cough* Bulldogs *cough*

I listened to SEN for 5 minutes and heard that giant [censored] Greg Denham say we should not pay overs and used Tom Boyd as the example.

So...Idiot Denham is comparing Boyd to our last seasons  leading goal kicker, mark and contested mark ( i think he was top 5 in the league for contested marks last season ?) and this season Jesse has had a slower start to the season where he still our highest mark taker, second to Gawn in contested marks and second to Watts in goal kicking.

I have no problem in arguing that you don't want to overpay players ( taking note that player payments are totally subjective) but comparing him to Boyd who may turn out ok but undoubtedly the bulldogs punted on him before they had any real exposed form to justify the contract they gave is comparing apples with a turd sandwich

[junk 342]

The way the Dees are playing Hogan is not the focal point,the club realises he may want to go home. Hopefully he chooses to stay and the fact Freo are crap that may encourage him to stay. Another good recruiting round at the end of the year will ensure that we will be finals material. Remaining spuds will be let go.

[beelzebub 23,197]

1 minute ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Brenton Sanderson's doing?

Not sure..

But a big thank-you to who ever 

[nutbean 8,838]

2 minutes ago, ENYAW said:

The way the Dees are playing Hogan is not the focal point,the club realises he may want to go home. 

whaaaaatttt ???

The way they are playing Hogan shows me that the club realises that he is a better as a centre half forward that moves around with some time deep and some time up the field than a stay at home full forward....

 

(btw - the non focal point has taken more marks than anyone else in the team.)

Edited April 29, 2016 by nutbean

[AzzKikA 2,371]

Just now, nutbean said:

I listened to SEN for 5 minutes and heard that giant [censored] Greg Denham say we should not pay overs and used Tom Boyd as the example.

So...Idiot Denham is comparing Boyd to our last seasons  leading goal kicker, mark and contested mark ( i think he was top 5 in the league for contested marks last season ?) and this season Jesse has had a slower start to the season where he still our highest mark taker, second to Gawn in contested marks and second to Watts in goal kicking.

I have no problem in arguing that you don't want to overpay players ( taking note that player payments are totally subjective) but comparing him to Boyd who may turn out ok but undoubtedly the bulldogs punted on him before they had any real exposed form to justify the contract they gave is comparing apples with a turd sandwich

Greg the venom, wish he would bite himself!

Well i think Tom "The Eagle" Boyd was one of the rare mistakes the Bulldogs have made in recent trade/draft periods, I just do not see anything in him, like Vickery or Tippett.

[Ted Lasso 18,771]

Lets be honest, if Jesse stays or goes he's going to be getting Tom Boyd level dollars on his next contract unless he has a very serious injury.

[junk 342]

NUTBEAN the Dees surely would have a back up plan by now if Hogan wishes to leave when his contract is up.

[AzzKikA 2,371]

9 minutes ago, Peter Griffen said:

Lets be honest, if Jesse stays or goes he's going to be getting Tom Boyd level dollars on his next contract unless he has a very serious injury.

Yeah but at least we know what we are getting.

[GM11 740]

You want to keep all your better players, obviously.

But, hopefully, by the end of 2017 we won't be reliant on one player to stay competitive.

[Biffen 12,812]

The long plane trips every fortnight are robbing the West Australian teams of recruits ,according to Balme on Sen.

Many now think Hogan will stay at Melbourne.

I think he will get the money Dawes is now getting if he recovers his form a bit.

[nutbean 8,838]

35 minutes ago, ENYAW said:

NUTBEAN the Dees surely would have a back up plan by now if Hogan wishes to leave when his contract is up.

Yup - the backup plan is get the best deal they can, hope that the Weed or Hulett come on and either draft or trade in a forward but to suggest that "the way the Dees are playing Hogan is not the focal point the club realises he may want to go home" ???( It is pretty much the same backup plan they have for any player - if anyone wants out - get the best deal, hope a youngster comes through or trade in).  

 

Are you seriously suggesting that they are not using him as focal point because he may want to go home ????????