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The articles are based on the premise that Pavlich is keeping the seat (& his salary) warm until the end of 2017 however also points out that why would Hogan go home to a rebuilding Club. I would just dismiss it out of hand, particularly as by then he will have had two enjoyable seasons playing alongside Petracca!

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    Neale would be good.

    Anyway, the players that have signed recently, they're out of contract, no? Pretty sure they're in a position to sign now and can't risk waiting for the CBA. They might end up uncontracted while the players potentially strike.

    If Hogan puts off contract talks "until the end of the season" at this time next year, he's gone.

    At this stage, it is ludicrous to really even contemplate this. 

    But I do think he should just sign and get on with it. This is going to carry on for the next 18 months (hopefully only the next 12).

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    Just now, praha said:

    Neale would be good.

    Anyway, the players that have signed recently, they're out of contract, no? Pretty sure they're in a position to sign now and can't risk waiting for the CBA. They might end up uncontracted while the players potentially strike.

    If Hogan puts off contract talks "until the end of the season" at this time next year, he's gone.

    At this stage, it is ludicrous to really even contemplate this. 

    But I do think he should just sign and get on with it. This is going to carry on for the next 18 months (hopefully only the next 12).

    I think this can be an easy thing to overlook too, something I did earlier in the season.  These guys who are re-signing are in the last year of their deals, and we all know Hogan isn't in the same position.

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    Puts an interesting spin on us trading away a future round 1 pick last year (especially seeing we took Weed)...

     

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    3 hours ago, Munga said:

    i was called a troll the other day for thinking he was gone . i cant see how you could see it any other way. 

    Your gut feeling  (and that's all it is) has as much weight as my gut feeling that thinks he'll stay.  Neither is worth more than the other. 

    The only difference is that you'll say it ten times more than me.  It doesn't matter how often you say it.  It still won't carry any more weight. 

     

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    Clearly his poor form to start the season has been synchronised with Fremantle's poor form. His psyche is already there. Frankly I wish Ross Lyon would coach him a bit better, he's ruining his development.

    I still think it is most likely that Hogan is staying, and I still think he's going to be a gun, and I still think the wailing from the likes of Lloyd (who had just one really good game in his second season, by the way) is a really impressive storm in a teacup.

    Still, a bit of poor form might take 100k off his next contract, all good.

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    15 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

    No wonder he is struggling on field.  Just look at the scrutiny the poor bloke cops.  He still has 44 more games to play before his contract is up and he's already copping it.

    We've got short memories too.  Everyone, even Jesse himself, have said that he loves it in Melbourne and has no real interest in going home.  Yet we believe journo's instead.  I know the Scully fiasco has tainted our thinking here, but we need to get behind the big fella and trust in the club to get things done.

    We'll be right.

    this is the problem , he will never be left alone till he re signs , the media will hound him , it will effect his game as we see. Sadly you are right Scully has made us think this way, we will always believe he is going ,thats the melbourne way .....  its changing but slowly. Players will want to stay , they will want to come

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    14 hours ago, stuie said:

    Puts an interesting spin on us trading away a future round 1 pick last year (especially seeing we took Weed)...

     

    I don't think that really means anything, we take a KPP every year, problem is that in the period we've had a top 10 pick there haven't been many KPP in that range, they've generally been in the 20-30 range. 

    I would think If we finish 12th or below this year, I'll be mightily [censored].

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    44 minutes ago, praha said:

    I don't think that really means anything, we take a KPP every year, problem is that in the period we've had a top 10 pick there haven't been many KPP in that range, they've generally been in the 20-30 range. 

    I would think If we finish 12th or below this year, I'll be mightily [censored].

    It's more our eagerness to trade away that future first round pick that makes me wonder I guess.

    I don't buy in to the rumours about Hogan, BUT if the worst case scenario did happen then that trading for Weed would point to us knowing about it as early as last year.

     

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    Can we all join in for a few random posts here? Seeing 2009 in the thread-count makes me feel a bit queasy.

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    5 minutes ago, Skuit said:

    Can we all join in for a few random posts here? Seeing 2009 in the thread-count makes me feel a bit queasy.

    gsbvxzvdsfvs

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    19 minutes ago, Skuit said:

    Can we all join in for a few random posts here? Seeing 2009 in the thread-count makes me feel a bit queasy.

    2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 aren't much better.

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    On 4/6/2016 at 10:26 AM, stuie said:

    It's more our eagerness to trade away that future first round pick that makes me wonder I guess.

    I don't buy in to the rumours about Hogan, BUT if the worst case scenario did happen then that trading for Weed would point to us knowing about it as early as last year.

     

    the club wanted two more first round picks, was really keen on Weiderman a long way before the draft and expects to rise up the ladder quite a bit this year, to me it was a logical decision, the pressure is now on, if we finish bottom 4 we still come out of it okay because imo both Weiderman and oliver look like 200 game players for the club

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    3 minutes ago, Peter Griffen said:

    the club wanted two more first round picks, was really keen on Weiderman a long way before the draft and expects to rise up the ladder quite a bit this year, to me it was a logical decision, the pressure is now on, if we finish bottom 4 we still come out of it okay because imo both Weiderman and oliver look like 200 game players for the club

    More or less, yeah, but we'd have ended up with a higher pick this year to potentially get a better player than Weiderman, so it's a massive risk that really falls down to the club finishing in the 5th-12th range. It would be hard to swallow if the club doesn't improve, finished 18th-14th and has passed up a top 5 pick. 

    Pressure is on everyone right now. The football department is put a lot of faith in itself to deliver with that choice. I like our draft choices but we'll be a laughing stock if we crash and burn and miss out on a pick 3 or pick 4 or pick 5.

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    26 minutes ago, Skuit said:

    Can we all join in for a few random posts here? Seeing 2009 in the thread-count makes me feel a bit queasy.

     Was a great vintage for reds in Coonawarra. 

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    7 minutes ago, Peter Griffen said:

    the club wanted two more first round picks, was really keen on Weiderman a long way before the draft and expects to rise up the ladder quite a bit this year, to me it was a logical decision, the pressure is now on, if we finish bottom 4 we still come out of it okay because imo both Weiderman and oliver look like 200 game players for the club

    Yep, I agree with that, but what I'm saying is IF Hogan asks for a trade this year (worst case scenario) then it certainly changes the context of that decision.

     

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    2 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

     Was a great vintage for reds in Coonawarra. 

    A different type of queasy.

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    On 4/6/2016 at 0:14 PM, stuie said:

    Yep, I agree with that, but what I'm saying is IF Hogan asks for a trade this year (worst case scenario) then it certainly changes the context of that decision.

     

    Definitely, but i think the free'd up money would go straight towards someone like Michael Hurley and we'd have a couple of good picks or a good player and picks as well, so while it would be disappointing i don't think it'd be as bad as some people are suggesting. 

    I rate Weiderman extremely highly, he might well end up being as good as Hogan, Daniher and co anyway

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    23 hours ago, Devil is in the Detail said:

    http://www.zerohanger.com/reports-hogan-deal-to-rival-club-as-good-as-done-4225/

    How accurate is the journalism hear??

    Its simple he says that hogan has signed elsewhere and then if hogan eventually leaves then he is a genius who picked it miles out. And if he doesnt leave? well he was wrong and the article is so old everyone forgets and life moves on. As far as accurate pffft no but its a play for later success. 

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    32 minutes ago, Peter Griffen said:

    Definitely, but i think the free'd up money would go straight towards someone like Michael Hurley and we'd have a couple of good picks or a good player and picks as well, so while it would be disappointing i don't think it'd be as bad as some people are suggesting. 

    I rate Weiderman extremely highly, he might well end up being as good as Hogan, Daniher and co anyway

    Hahaha then Weiderman leaves :P its a vicious cycle 

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    Very interested to hear that Wayne Carey will spend some time with Jesse Hogan over the coming weeks. I believe Goodwin is behind it and its very much a Football mentoring role.. some instructional work.. forward line movement. I think its a good move, a bit unlike Melbourne, but its Goodwin again on the front foot.

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    3 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

    Very interested to hear that Wayne Carey will spend some time with Jesse Hogan over the coming weeks. I believe Goodwin is behind it and its very much a Football mentoring role.. some instructional work.. forward line movement. I think its a good move, a bit unlike Melbourne, but its Goodwin again on the front foot.

    Really like this.

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    Good to hear, but hasn't this already happened before? Or maybe it was just a coffee/lunch once.

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    4 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

    Oh look, another Hogan thread.

    We don't have enough of these.

    oh look, another smart alec.. we don't have enough of these!

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