1 hour ago, Curry & Beer said:

different player, different club, has zero relevance to this discussion. If you are anybody in the 'footy world' who is outside our club there is a very strong chance you have a low amount of respect for us. That's just a fact. If you don't believe me, pretend you barrack for someone else and ask some random blokes at the pub tonight. You will not get a glowing assessment. Hogan, like everyone else, is part of that group. It will stay that way until we can prove otherwise and make it up around the top 4 for a number of consecutive years. These are hard truths, that you know to be true.

And some players want to be a part of the rise,  see Nathan Jones- he was quite content with staying with a rabble and it wasn't about current success with him, it was about loyalty and being part of a solution. Like you alluded too,  different players have different motivations,  I think it's disrespectful assuming Hoges will leave because we aren't a top 4 side,  or because the everyday retarded drunk down at the locallocal doesn't respect us. 

How about we worry about him resigning when we're in his last year of contract.  That would be a good start.  Stop being so paranoid.  Put the beer down and step away from the curry 

Read between the lines gone 

30 minutes ago, Middymalt said:

Read between the lines gone 

 

Read between the lines, staying

6 hours ago, Curry & Beer said:

would you like to tell me which part of my post is wrong

 

Who are you?

On 26 February 2016 at 7:04 PM, Little Goffy said:

Yeah, it's a bizarre claim from Schwarz. Hogan is frankly stellar and while i share the notion that 1.5m a year starts to look unbalancing on the list, if there's any player worth it it is Hogan.

But Hogan is also taking a risk... what if by halfway through this season Weidemann has cleared his injury legacy, developed the fitness and is out and about providing a credible alternative? Would knock 250k off Hogan's maximum value.

Of course, I think really Hogan would just be delighted to have a strong partner up forward and the two of them could settle into becoming the game's best combo.

Remember the quotes pre-draft; "When Weideman went under the knife he was rated a top-three prospect on the rise — and little has changed."

What happens if Petrecca is worth the  same  

3 hours ago, Middymalt said:

What happens if Petrecca is worth the  same  

I should clarify - I still wouldn't support paying Hogan 1.5mil under any circumstance.

We can only hope that these kids are vaguely sensible about money and will be 'content' with 10-year 750k deals that mean neither they nor any family member has to worry about money ever again.

I think all negotiations for AFL player (and coach) contracts should be required to be voiced in 'number of ordinary full time wage rates'*.

As in "Contract negotiations are progressing well, with the key sticking point being whether the player is worth 13 full-time-wage-equivalents or closer to 17 full-time-wage-equivalents."

And "Sylvia, who failed to play a game and 'retired' prior to the start of the season due to poor preparation, breaches of team rules and lack of effort in training, will immediately be paid out his salary of 8 full-time-wage-equivalents."

* I prefer median wage as a representation of 'ordinary wage', as average is heavily skewed by the peak at the top end of the bell-curve.

Sorry, but can someone please explain to me the conjecture going on about Hogan's contract? He has 2 years left on his contract. If he puts talks on hold at the end of next year then yes by all means I would be very worried, but he has 2 years left to go. People need to ease up.

It's very fair and reasonable for him to focus on his footy this year and work out what he wants to do as of the end of the season.

In saying that I would be giving him a Buddy- esque deal without question. He is an unbelievable talent. Some of his marks and positioning yesterday were seriously Carey like.

Freak.

54 minutes ago, JimmyNP said:

Sorry, but can someone please explain to me the conjecture going on about Hogan's contract? He has 2 years left on his contract. If he puts talks on hold at the end of next year then yes by all means I would be very worried, but he has 2 years left to go. People need to ease up.

It's very fair and reasonable for him to focus on his footy this year and work out what he wants to do as of the end of the season.

In saying that I would be giving him a Buddy- esque deal without question. He is an unbelievable talent. Some of his marks and positioning yesterday were seriously Carey like.

Freak.

The only problem is his putting talks on hold does not help him focus on his footy, exactly the opposite actually I would have thought. When we look at the recent history of free agents and other players out of contract we know some can handle the distractions better than others.

But having to outright lie to the public via the media must be a tough gig for young men hell bent on maximising their income. I hope Hogan is not like he who cannot be named! 

Would love to have a separate thread for Hogan's contract head-banging and one for Hogan game play so I don't have to read through the crud to get my Hogan fix.

1 minute ago, Choke said:

Would love to have a separate thread for Hogan's contract head-banging and one for Hogan game play so I don't have to read through the crud to get my Hogan fix.

 

 

Yes, agree 100%.  Used to look forward to this thread, now its just full of negativity and paranoia.

26 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

 

 

Yes, agree 100%.  Used to look forward to this thread, now its just full of negativity and paranoia.

Sounds like your average descent into ice addiction

Why can't the club offer a percentage of the salary cap, whatever that ends up being?

As our marquee player we offer 10% of the salary cap which this year would be about 1 million  if the cap goes up to 13 million he gets 1.3 million. 

The 10% could be 7, 8, 9%  whatever, so he could sign now knowing that he will get an increase based on percentage of the new total.

3 hours ago, Choke said:

Would love to have a separate thread for Hogan's contract head-banging and one for Hogan game play so I don't have to read through the crud to get my Hogan fix.

Will this do?

 

3 hours ago, Choke said:

Would love to have a separate thread for Hogan's contract head-banging and one for Hogan game play so I don't have to read through the crud to get my Hogan fix.

There was one. Pretty sure it got merged with this thread.

4 hours ago, Choke said:

Would love to have a separate thread for Hogan's contract head-banging and one for Hogan game play so I don't have to read through the crud to get my Hogan fix.

Utopia.

1 hour ago, Gorgoroth said:

There was one. Pretty sure it got merged with this thread.

 

Critical error by the mods if true.  Hopefully its recitfied ASAP. This is  a matter of life and death, only more important.

1 hour ago, Dr John Dee said:

Will this do?

 

Sure!

So we leave the contract talk here and move to the other one for other Hogan talk?

47 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

 

Critical error by the mods if true.  Hopefully its recitfied ASAP. This is  a matter of life and death, only more important.

But it wasn't. See my post above.

46 minutes ago, Choke said:

Sure!

So we leave the contract talk here and move to the other one for other Hogan talk?

Seems like a good idea to me. When the second thread started someone suggested it should be merged with this but since it was actually discussing football issues I left it alone and I presume so did the other modes.

And also seperate threads for when he smiles, and his preferred coffee types. 

10 minutes ago, Dr John Dee said:

Seems like a good idea to me. When the second thread started someone suggested it should be merged with this but since it was actually discussing football issues I left it alone and I presume so did the other modes.

That was me who suggested the merge.

Any thread regards Hogan at the moment will end up with discussion about his contract - it's unavoidable given the current media hype.

Hopefully now that games have started we can focus on and marvel at his footballing ability.

48 minutes ago, McQueen said:

That was me who suggested the merge.

Any thread regards Hogan at the moment will end up with discussion about his contract - it's unavoidable given the current media hype.

Hopefully now that games have started we can focus on and marvel at his footballing ability.

You're probably right, but I thought it was worth some small hope that the different titles would suggest different concentrations.

SEN reported this morning that Cale Hooker has been offered a five year lucrative deal by Fremantle to join them at seasons end.

 

5 minutes ago, juzzk1d said:

SEN reported this morning that Cale Hooker has been offered a five year lucrative deal by Fremantle to join them at seasons end.

 

Wow, 5 years for Hooker?! Freo really are desperate for more talls. He'll be 28 and fresh off a year out of the game by the time he laces up the boots for them.

And they're going to get Mcarthey as well