I don't agree the rucks are not the reason we have spent 3 years in a black hole.

While they could be better there have been way bigger problems in the mid field and forward line.

We have average AFL standard Rucks the others mentioned have been barely VFL standard.

agree od, the lack of 2way running makes our team & rucks appear worse.

its the hard work & hard attitudes that are lacking

i think the role of a ruckman has changed a lot

the attributes of today's top ruckmen is measured more by what he contributes to general play rather than his tap work

jimmy really showed what a ruckman could achieve around the ground

changes or rules, umpire interpretations and tactics have emasculated the traditional rucking role

One area that we always had covered under Daniher. White, Jolly and Jamar were pretty decent.

Jamar never got a go under Daniher. For all his virtues, Daniher wasn't a man who took the long view.

Think the whole ruck division goes pear shaped if Gawn doesn't stand up. One area that we always had covered under Daniher. White, Jolly and Jamar were pretty decent.

King looks at least three years sway.

They were never decent at the same time. And Daniher really didn't manage the ruck stocks well. We should have drafted another ruck when Jolly left but we didn't. We paid overs for a 200cm rover in Paul Johnson. Bailey traded for Meesen in his first year to address the issue but Meesen was a fail.

Jamar never got a go under Daniher. For all his virtues, Daniher wasn't a man who took the long view.

He did. It was one of the reasons Jolly left in 2004.

I don't agree the rucks are not the reason we have spent 3 years in a black hole.

While they could be better there have been way bigger problems in the mid field and forward line.

We have average AFL standard Rucks the others mentioned have been barely VFL standard.

Old Dee did you even read what I wrote? Where did I say the rucks are the reason we "spent 3 years in a black hole"? Where did I say we don't have big problems elsewhere on the ground? This is a thread on our ruck stocks, right? But I do note your last sentence is consistent with the gist of what I said.

Edited January 28, 201510 yr by Moonshadow

He did. It was one of the reasons Jolly left in 2004.

Why is Jolly and his horrible partner still on The Block?

Fkn whingers!

He's competing with Sandilands. And is well regarded by the club.

How many games do you expect Nicholson and Evans to play for the Dees this year?

Well given they aren't on the list, not many.....

What the??

I reckon you might be able to work this one out.

Agreed Dee tox. Our rucks have been thin for some time and injury has highlighted this.

See mfc site - king says he is a fwd who can ruck not a ruckman per se

Perhaps more in the fitz mold

Edited January 29, 201510 yr by Dinosaur Rover

See mfc site - king says he is a fwd who can ruck not a ruckman per se

Perhaps more in the fitz mold

So we have a player who is miles behind anyone else in terms of fitness, and in the mold of another player who can't get a game. Exciting times

Found the solution in Perth today.

That's just sandilands mate, he's taken.

That's just sandilands mate, he's taken.

With his helmet off, he looks a bit 'Max Gawnish.'

Found the solution in Perth today.

looks like he tears up the turf to. but can he speak anglais?

Found the solution in Perth today.

Yeah, but what is his defensive running like?

I heard he can't kick, and if he can't kick he can't play footy.

Looks like he may have potential, what is his fitness base like, we wouldn't want another Cale Morton.

Has he got any mongrel in him, we don't need another Jack Watts.

Nah, he would probably want to return to Freo after his first contact. etc .etc.

Yeah, but what is his defensive running like?

I heard he can't kick, and if he can't kick he can't play footy.

Looks like he may have potential, what is his fitness base like, we wouldn't want another Cale Morton.

Has he got any mongrel in him, we don't need another Jack Watts.

Nah, he would probably want to return to Freo after his first contact. etc .etc.

All I know is that there'll be quite a few strings attached in any potential trade.