A bit glib and simplistic Rhino. The press push this notion of freedom to make sales - honesty in reporting seems to me to run a distant second.

try dead last...... just ahead of the retraction occasionally

Its been very successful in North Korea, China and many of the Middle East's *cough* people's republics.

Nothing more simplistic than a wide generalisation.

Note: Do accept Murdoch's rags brings the notion in a significant disrepute.

Edited December 4, 201311 yr by Rhino Richards

So true BBO. News Ltd runs a plethora of agendas at any one time plus the odd wire tap.

and Fairfax is squeaky clean.... come on

all as bad as each other.... all have their barrows

and Fairfax is squeaky clean.... come on

all as bad as each other.... all have their barrows

Not denying that Beezlebub. I just think Rupert is a little more relentless.

It's curious though. The Age has gone to [censored]. The Sun always was [censored]. Yet some of the best op ed stuff and opinion articles are to be found in The Australian.

It's curious though. The Age has gone to [censored]. The Sun always was [censored]. Yet some of the best op ed stuff and opinion articles are to be found in The Australian.

you given up reading the redflag?

you given up reading the redflag?

Pravda has also gone to [censored] and is no longer the reliable source it once was!

So true BBO. News Ltd runs a plethora of agendas at any one time plus the odd wire tap.

So if it's in the fairfax papers we can accept it as fact; is that what you're saying?

It's curious though. The Age has gone to [censored]. The Sun always was [censored]. Yet some of the best op ed stuff and opinion articles are to be found in The Australian.

The Age has a declining readership and they are desperately hanging on to those that they have.

I doubt they will last any more than a few more years, if that.

So if it's in the fairfax papers we can accept it as fact; is that what you're saying?

So if it's in the fairfax papers we can accept it as fact; is that what you're saying?

Even Premier Geoff Shaw calls it The Herald Scum.

Rupert has done for quality journalism what Pol Pot did for nation building.

Even Premier Geoff Shaw calls it The Herald Scum.

Rupert has done for quality journalism what Pol Pot did for nation building.

Hilarious

wish the like button was back

So if it's in the fairfax papers we can accept it as fact; is that what you're saying?

I guess what I'm saying Andy Bolt, is that you may wish to read the comment that I made proceeding the initial post. And then Andy, but only then, can you make a Herald Sun like retraction buried in the classifieds.

I guess what I'm saying Andy Bolt, is that you may wish to read the comment that I made proceeding the initial post. And then Andy, but only then, can you make a Herald Sun like retraction buried in the classifieds.

What an idiotic comment to make.

Fact is I don't read the HUN and haven't for years but I bet you do.

What an idiotic comment to make.

Fact is I don't read the HUN and haven't for years but I bet you do.

Ah, check mate to you again Robbie F. I guess it was your strident attack on Fairfax when I mentioned News Ltd that lead to me to the conclusion that you were a right wing nutter. I see now that you are not right wing.

The Age has a declining readership and they are desperately hanging on to those that they have.

That's true of every newspaper in the world these days.

Ah, check mate to you again Robbie F. I guess it was your strident attack on Fairfax when I mentioned News Ltd that lead to me to the conclusion that you were a right wing nutter. I see now that you are not right wing.

The Fairfax papers are for the leftwing loonies so I guess you don't read them, do you? I'm sure that any fair minded Labor supporter would abhor the way the Fairfax Papers have degenerated in to irrelevance.

Why would someone that supports the right be a nutter? Is it because they have a different view to you?

What gets me about this is that Essendon has so far managed its playing group well in the circumstances. Despite seemingly being treated with utter contempt by their clubs on terms of the apparent concealment of the drugs they were injected with, there's been no player revolt and they seem to be unified and focussed on succeeding.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens to team morale when the infraction notices start issuing.

they've obviously been told they wont be punished. see the chapman article.

this only means that they will be twice as angry when they do get infraction notices...

The Fairfax papers are for the leftwing loonies so I guess you don't read them, do you? I'm sure that any fair minded Labor supporter would abhor the way the Fairfax Papers have degenerated in to irrelevance.

Why would someone that supports the right be a nutter? Is it because they have a different view to you?

Robbie, I'm trying to meet your misplaced anger with good humor. Perhaps reread the posts and I think it's fair to say that you have jumped the gun....as you gun toting, inbred, Menzies loving types are oft to do. I accept your apology. Say no more.

What gets me about this is that Essendon has so far managed its playing group well in the circumstances. Despite seemingly being treated with utter contempt by their clubs on terms of the apparent concealment of the drugs they were injected with, there's been no player revolt and they seem to be unified and focussed on succeeding.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens to team morale when the infraction notices start issuing.

Whispering, I just don't think those infraction notices are coming.

Whispering, I just don't think those infraction notices are coming.

The sun will rise in the east tomorrow just as the infraction notices will come one day soon. They are unstoppable.

The sun will rise in the east tomorrow just as the infraction notices will come one day soon. They are unstoppable.

I wish I had your optimism Whisper. It is a long time after the event. Why the confidence?

Robbie, I'm trying to meet your misplaced anger with good humor. Perhaps reread the posts and I think it's fair to say that you have jumped the gun....as you gun toting, inbred, Menzies loving types are oft to do. I accept your apology. Say no more.

You're in top form tonight RTG. Holidays drawing closer!

You're in top form tonight RTG. Holidays drawing closer!

They are BBO. Dec 20, 2pm. At a guess.