I do feel like Freeman has alot more upside. If you read Quigleys mock draft and a few others, you will read that the maximum ceiling they have for Salem is to just be a good footballer. A few even said he'll be in the bottom half of a best 22 in his prime. With pick 9 I think you need to reach for higher than that. Yes Freeman, was a bit riskier but there's a reason, the reward would've been much greater.

Dangerfield and Freeman were both taken pick 10 with question marks. I'll be tracking his progress for years to come.

Kicking had nothing to do with it. Freeman kicks well also.

Salem is just the more disciplined and slightly better skilled player who will make the most of his opportunities. He also came across more keen to join the MFC and develop under Roos than Freeman did. Making Salem the better fit for our club. Simple

Freeman cant kick, Salem is an elite kick, and runs all day.

Freeman has no awareness and no clue

Salem has an incredible footy brain

Horrible thread

Freeman has no awareness and no clue

Salem has an incredible footy brain

"I see no difference between the talent available at picks 2 and 9. guys like Lennon and Freeman are every bit as good as Aish and Scharenberg"

You seemed to rate him not that long ago.

Freeman is a good prospect, but we picked another good prospect. Just leave it at that and wait till they play a game.

Freeman has no awareness and no clue

Salem has an incredible footy brain

Bit harsh on Freeman.

Obviously has a clue to be drafted top 10. and looking at the highlights his awareness seems fine.

"I see no difference between the talent available at picks 2 and 9. guys like Lennon and Freeman are every bit as good as Aish and Scharenberg"

You seemed to rate him not that long ago.

Freeman is a good prospect, but we picked another good prospect. Just leave it at that and wait till they play a game.

I wish I could Like this!

Where's the like button gone?!

(For the record I really like Salem, I'm just impatient)

Can we change the topic heading?

Freeman has no awareness and no clue

Salem has an incredible footy brain

Could say the same about this post.

"I see no difference between the talent available at picks 2 and 9. guys like Lennon and Freeman are every bit as good as Aish and Scharenberg"

You seemed to rate him not that long ago.

Freeman is a good prospect, but we picked another good prospect. Just leave it at that and wait till they play a game.

A minor quibble, but waiting until they've played "a game" is where the Wines v Toumpas angst began. I'd suggest we leave it until they've played at least 50 games each.

Could say the same about this post.

Freeman does have no awareness. Did you even watch a game live or just his highlights reel?

Freeman does have no awareness. Did you even watch a game live or just his highlights reel?

Watched him A LOT.

I just find it hilarious that when it comes to draftees people think if a certain player has a weakness in one area it means they're totally hopeless in that area.

There is a middle ground you know, you're not either excellent or terrible at everything.

I do feel like Freeman has alot more upside. If you read Quigleys mock draft and a few others, you will read that the maximum ceiling they have for Salem is to just be a good footballer. A few even said he'll be in the bottom half of a best 22 in his prime. With pick 9 I think you need to reach for higher than that. Yes Freeman, was a bit riskier but there's a reason, the reward would've been much greater.

Dangerfield and Freeman were both taken pick 10 with question marks. I'll be tracking his progress for years to come.

but those draft gurus are guessing, just like us. a "maximum ceiling"? how the hell did he figure that out? from Salem's form as a beardless boy playing against other beardless boys? a crystal ball i would accept, but not observation, because observation cannot account for the fact that none of these kids have played in the AFL, which is precisely and particularly where they will be tested.

most of those gurus just flick nonsense onto the page in order to put some space between each iteration of "elite".

all that can be said of these two boys is that they have good physical attributes and talent. we can also add that MFCs recruiters saw something which neither the draft gurus nor us are privy to which inclined them to one side of the coin rather than the other.

i am glad we took Salem, because right now as i type Salem is a Demon and that makes him special. he is automatically better than Freeman, who is a filthy Magpie. that it might have been otherwise is irrelevant, because it isn't otherwise.

for my part, i will track Freeman's progress each Queen's Birthday and perhaps one other match per season, otherwise i would have to watch Collingwood matches ... ick.

Watched him A LOT.

I just find it hilarious that when it comes to draftees people think if a certain player has a weakness in one area it means they're totally hopeless in that area.

There is a middle ground you know, you're not either excellent or terrible at everything.

These horrific weaknesses also seem to come up a lot more after we didn't pick them. 50% of our supporter base was up Freeman and now suddenly his awareness, kicking, and he fact he kicks little kids dogs everyone is super glad we didn't pick him and we made the right choice.

Please.

These horrific weaknesses also seem to come up a lot more after we didn't pick them. 50% of our supporter base was up Freeman and now suddenly his awareness, kicking, and he fact he kicks little kids dogs everyone is super glad we didn't pick him and we made the right choice.

Please.

Exactly. Collingwood didn't seem too put off by this apparently terrible footballer.

just rename this thread the NFI thread

just rename this thread the NFI thread

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I must admit I wanted Sheed but in effect we got Tyson & Salem for Josh Kelly.

I'm happy,time to get on with it!!!

Salem over Freeman. Salem's makes quick decisions, changes direction quickly and hits targets under pressure.

Does Cathy Freeman play footy?

This thread is a disgrace.

Again, in the absence of the like function:

"Like"

What did I miss, where did the like function go?

This thread is a disgrace.

What did I miss, where did the like function go?

Right. Saw the thread. Got it.

We have Salem we don't have Freeman, so I'm right behind Salem now, he's ours and I hope he turns out to be a star.

I also hope Freeman turns out to be an average footballer.