Most of these journalists would have lauded Richmond endlessly for a masterstroke had they been able to prize Tyson away from GWS at the end of last 2012. The annoying thing is Barrett and Denham, in particular, can't even get there head around the fact that that the trade wasn't a straight swap of Tyson for Pick 2, nor do they even go close to examining where Tyson would be drafted in this year's draft pool if he was in it, which is one of the the important considerations when assessing the trade before the materials of it have had a chance to play. Tyson could very easily have been picked high in the top 10 given his attributes in this draft pool. Kelly is class so the likelihood is a win-win for both clubs.

Barrett admits he knows nothing about Tyson and I can guarantee you neither of them have seen Kelly play so it is just uninformed opinion based on 2nd and 3rd hand information.

Majority of Demonland preferred Toumpas over Wines pre-draft. That all changed round 1.

It did for the short sighted.

Not Salem. Anyone but Salem

Why?

All this waiting for the draft to come is starting to annoy me. I think the build up this year has felt to me longer and more drawn out. As for pick 9, Im not to fussed as i havnt followed the U/18s comp, being away from the football scene up here in Canberra. All i have to go on is what is posted on here and on the AFL updates but i guess we will see tonight after the first 8 picks have been named then Roos and co will pick what they feel will be the best fit for what we need/want out of whats left.

I think we have already won with this draft period. Hogan would have gone in the pointy end of the draft and to have secured him last year and then get Tyson and pick 9 (etc) for our pick 2 (etc) gives us 2 pics in the top 10. I think whoever we pick up at 9, 40 and 57 will have the best chance, with the new football department, of being developed into a AFL footballer. It is essentially a lottery in the end. Being a U/18 superstar doesnt always translate into being a AFL superstar. We should know

Almost every phantom draft has Sheed going to WCE at 11. Most have some variance with other choices but nobody seems to think that a club would bite the bullet and take a risk with this player at 7 or 9 for eg.

Why?

WCE are going to look pretty stupid if Sheed isn't available at #11. They wouldn't have given up #6 so easily if they weren't confident he'd still be there by then.

any skinny private school types about? preferably with some basketball background and good leadership qualities

any skinny private school types about? preferably with some basketball background and good leadership qualities

if so....just shoot them now huh !!

WCE are going to look pretty stupid if Sheed isn't available at #11. They wouldn't have given up #6 so easily if they weren't confident he'd still be there by then.

Maybe they were after Acres all along.

Cant say I am too excited about Freeman based on footage I have seen

Looks to have no poise or awareness.

Speed wont make up for that.

my dream is that Billings slips to pick 9.

Much is made about where this kid goes or that one. Along the way the media gets into its head as to where the coins ought to fall and that becomes the de facto foundation of expectations. Taylor rightly points out in his looking towards the drafty it comes down to where the clubs feel they have players sorted and the clubs go off of their estimations NOT the media's.

I cant imagine Melbourne will have traded and got 9 if it wasnt happy with who will be there at 9. They obviously expect any of up to about 5 players to be there and happy to take any of them as they fall or present. Similarly the club has ideas about 40.. personally after 40 its a dart board job as to who knows who is left at any given point

The club must feel Scharenberg is a chance to slide but in all probability its just due diligence and didnt want to be caught napping or unawares. we have obviously got a much more shrewd bunch at the table now.

There are always surprises and clever gambits at the draft, lets just hope we get it half way right for a change. Our selections last visit werent too bad and as such I think it reasonable to think we wont do any worse and hopefully better.

Wouldn't be surprised if we take Patrick Cripps.

All Australian
192cm midfielder (Roos suggested we need taller mids)
Ready to go

Compares himself to Ollie Wines
Comes across well in his interview below
People suggesting we are certain the player we want will be there at pick 9

Im just glad we have 9 and the filth 10..other way round and I dont think wed get our choice.

Wouldn't be surprised if we take Patrick Cripps.

All Australian

192cm midfielder (Roos suggested we need taller mids)

Ready to go

Compares himself to Ollie Wines

Comes across well in his interview below

People suggesting we are certain the player we want will be there at pick 9

he does look good in that clip

and a good build to boot

I studied it carefully and its looking like Salem, from Scharenberg and freeman.

Salem has the lot really, pace attitude, size and skill.

I studied it carefully and its looking like Salem, from Scharenberg and freeman.

Salem has the lot really, pace attitude, size and skill.

Not if Scharenberg is available.

Maybe they were after Acres all along.

Who really knows.

The buzz over here in WA is that he's a lock.

Not if Scharenberg is available.

I reckon its a monty it will be Scharenberg or salem, depending who is available, and what type roos is after.

Received a questionable sourced rumour that we might actually pick Dom Sheed at pick 9. I doubt its accurate but we'll wait and see.

id be happy with Salem, Freeman, Sheed, Scharenberg or Aish. Not keen on Billings.

Sheed is a good mate of jesse hogans

Just what I heard but from a guy at work who isn't a fantastic source to be honest.

All of hogan's best friends are mad freo fans.

have it on reliable information it'll be someone who's there at 8 and not at 10!! true dinks !!

Received a questionable sourced rumour that we might actually pick Dom Sheed at pick 9. I doubt its accurate but we'll wait and see.

id be happy with Salem, Freeman, Sheed, Scharenberg or Aish. Not keen on Billings.

Entirely possible - I heard a whisper about a month ago that he was who we wanted. If so, they've kept him under wraps well and done well in the old subterfuge department.

the odds appear to be Freeman 50% (Demonland & Emma Quayle) , Salem 40% (AFL.com), Sheed 5%, Aish 2%, Scharenberg 2%, Lennon 1%.

any skinny private school types about? preferably with some basketball background and good leadership qualities

There is Kelly (184cm, 75kg) but he may go before our pick! He went to Brighton Grammar as did Chris Dawes and Jack Watts.