http://m.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-04/draft-combine-results

Freeman finished top 10 in both 3k and beep test.

not in the results I just looked at

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-04/draft-combine-results

Sorry. Thought we were talking about crouch

Freeman finished top 10 in both 3k and beep test.

Tested in top 10 in 3k time trial. Maybe he drops off after this?

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-04/draft-combine-results

Freeman finished top 10 in both 3k and beep test.

I was answering a question about Crouch.

Really? I think he's no chance to go that early.Agree that either Lennon or Freeman are the way to go, although I wouldn't be disappointed with Kolodjasnij.I can imagine Roos wanting him as a Malceski-like driver off the HBF and wing.Lennon I see as being a bit like Steve Johnson.Will play high HFF for a few years before be can move into the middle.Very smart player though. Plays the angles well and always looking ahead a couple of steps. Fantastic kick.

Yep, I reckon he'll be snapped up before West Coast's pick. It's just a feeling.

My other prediction is that Josh Kelly will slide.

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-04/draft-combine-results

Freeman finished top 10 in both 3k and beep test.

That is good news for Collingwood if they grab him with pick #6!

The 3 we are looking at are Freeman, KK and Lennon. Won't be disappointed with any of them!

I was answering a question about Crouch.

Oh. Silly me. apologies demonoid and furious d.

Had my Freeman blinkers on.

Someone mentioned Freeman is now 185cm, but I'm unsure what information they're using, as elsewhere he's listed at 181/182.

It would appear we'll end up with either Freeman or Lennon.

Yes, I said that and he is.

Yep, I reckon he'll be snapped up before West Coast's pick. It's just a feeling.

My other prediction is that Josh Kelly will slide.

If Kelly's going to slide, you'd have to think that Aish will as well, no?

Based on them both being very slight.

I think Kelly will actually be able to have more impact earlier on than Aish, and both are very classy.

Sheed just seems a bit slow to me, and while he got the footy a lot, he seems to just play the percentages, kicking to the top of the square, etc.

I want guys that can find a target no one else can even see, for a pick that high.

I also don't think Sheed wins as much contested footy as his reputation would imply.

Still a good player and worthy of a top 15 pick.

From a quick look at that footage.

Freeman won plenty of contested footy and is clean ball-handler - yes his kicking looks a bit dodgy. His ability to run with the ball is very impressive.

Lennon looks more like a flanker than a mid to me..

Kolo and Bonto aren't mids.

Dunstan looks good, maybe a little slow but good contested, clean and a very nice kick.

Salem has some mid attributes.

Freeman for me.

The 3 we are looking at are Freeman, KK and Lennon. Won't be disappointed with any of them!

The only disappointment will be not getting the other 2...

my prediciton

1 GWS - Tom Boyd

2 GWS - Josh Kelly

3 St. Kilda -Matt Scharenberg

4 Western Bulldogs - Jack Billings

5 Gold Coast - James Aish

6 Collingwood - Nathan Freeman

7 Brisbane - Kade Koldashnij

9 North -Luke McDonald

Would leave us to snap up whoever we prefer out of Crouch, Bontempelli, Sheed, Lennon and Salem. Or someone else....

1 Boyd

2 Scharenberg

3 Kelly

4 Billings

5 Aish

6 Bontempelli

7 Lennon

8 McDonald

9 Freeman

10 KK

That sounds about it! Clubs have been talking and making mini deals. The only spanners in the worx are GC and BB

The only disappointment will be not getting the other 2...

Sounds like you want your cake! I'll have a wine with that thanks!

From a quick look at that footage.

Freeman won plenty of contested footy and is clean ball-handler - yes his kicking looks a bit dodgy. His ability to run with the ball is very impressive.

Lennon looks more like a flanker than a mid to me..

Kolo and Bonto aren't mids.

Dunstan looks good, maybe a little slow but good contested, clean and a very nice kick.

Salem has some mid attributes.

Freeman for me.

youre right about the 'flankers' they can work the middle at kiddy-ball but need time out of the middle to really develop at VFL/AFL level.

Freemans wonkiness can be polished, but he has the underlying talent for the midfield

Still theres 3 or 4 decent pickups for us to choose from. Like you id prefer Freeman

Terry Wallet on trade radio saying we should take Sheed at pick 9 if hes there

the Wallet hath spoken

Wallet could well be right. Sheed is one of a fairly large group of boys with good prospects.

Anyone of them could be the right choice for us. It's all like a lottery.

How they are developed after selection is the key.

From a quick look at that footage.

Freeman won plenty of contested footy and is clean ball-handler - yes his kicking looks a bit dodgy. His ability to run with the ball is very impressive.

Lennon looks more like a flanker than a mid to me..

Kolo and Bonto aren't mids.

Dunstan looks good, maybe a little slow but good contested, clean and a very nice kick.

Salem has some mid attributes.

Freeman for me.

Mundy and Fyfe started as flankers.

Lennon looks great in those highlights. Really handy attributes to have for someone who can be developed into a full time mid. Kicking and marking are unbelievable and whilst his frame isn't solid yet, he's no stick. Extremely hard to tell from a highlights package but if Lennon's not afraid of getting his hands dirty and has the right attitude, he'll be a jet.

Josh Kelly extremely underwhelming. Have seen him play before a couple of times and the highlights are the same. He'll get eaten alive next year if he plays AFL. Definitely needs a frame.

Freeman is the other I'd be happy with although he seems to have a habit of throwing ball to boot without thinking ala Nathan Jones early in his career. Something that can be easily fixed.

We need a well rounded mid with pick 9. Not a one-dimensional inside mid with not much outside game or a skinny classy outside mid with no ball winning ability. Needs to be a Dangerfield/Fyfe type of player for us.

Lennon or Freeman. Make it happen.

watching Ben Lennons highlights gave me a 7Yr Norwegian Wood twitch

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY5i4-rWh44

How are these players defensively? We need to draft a kid who runs both ways otherwise they may end up being just lile Moloney or Sylvia.

is there any 'go home factor' that anyone might know of regarding Sheed ? just asking

If Kelly's going to slide, you'd have to think that Aish will as well, no?

Based on them both being very slight.

I think Kelly will actually be able to have more impact earlier on than Aish, and both are very classy.

Sheed just seems a bit slow to me, and while he got the footy a lot, he seems to just play the percentages, kicking to the top of the square, etc.

I want guys that can find a target no one else can even see, for a pick that high.

I also don't think Sheed wins as much contested footy as his reputation would imply.

Still a good player and worthy of a top 15 pick.

Yep.

is there any 'go home factor' that anyone might know of regarding Sheed ? just asking

i heard somewhere that he is good mates with hogan which could help in keeping both

From a quick look at that footage. Freeman won plenty of contested footy and is clean ball-handler - yes his kicking looks a bit dodgy. His ability to run with the ball is very impressive.Lennon looks more like a flanker than a mid to me.. Kolo and Bonto aren't mids.Dunstan looks good, maybe a little slow but good contested, clean and a very nice kick. Salem has some mid attributes. Freeman for me.

Lennon can and will develop into a midfielder. With those attributes, he'd be a devastating player. Fyfe is the perfect example.

If Kelly's going to slide, you'd have to think that Aish will as well, no?Based on them both being very slight.I think Kelly will actually be able to have more impact earlier on than Aish, and both are very classy.Sheed just seems a bit slow to me, and while he got the footy a lot, he seems to just play the percentages, kicking to the top of the square, etc.I want guys that can find a target no one else can even see, for a pick that high.I also don't think Sheed wins as much contested footy as his reputation would imply.Still a good player and worthy of a top 15 pick.

In my eyes, Aish will fill out easier and quicker than Kelly, and I reckon he's got a few more tricks. We'll see though.

As for Sheed, he lopes around the ground. Not quick, but glides like Pendles. I really rate him. But again, we'll find out soon enough.

Just watched Freeman, Lennon and Sheed. Sheed does look tough and smart.

Freeman is the one for me. I love the way he backs his pace and takes the game on. I can understand the Shuey comparison and he's already got a strong body. Melbourne have a problem with inside 50 entries and granted that was due to our old crap midfield and next year's will look a lot different, but a guy like Freeman plays like Dustin Martin and increases your forward 50 entries just be his explosive speed and instincts. Freeman is what we're missing and exactly what we need.

Freeman is the one for me. I love the way he backs his pace and takes the game on. I can understand the Shuey comparison and he's already got a strong body. Melbourne have a problem with inside 50 entries and granted that was due to our old crap midfield and next year's will look a lot different, but a guy like Freeman plays like Dustin Martin and increases you forward 50 entries just be his explosive speed and instincts. Freeman is what we're missing and exactly what we need.

Exactly.