So I am trying to be as realistic as possible, but this is how I'm thinking we can trade our way into a solid outfit for next year.

1. Straight swap with Watts for Yarran, benefiting both teams giving us the leg speed and skills that we have been craving.

2. Offer Taylor Adams a heap of cash to walk into the PSD and we take him for nothing, I might be dreaming on this one.

3. Pick two for Rory Sloane (straight swap), maybe the exchange of later picks. Or pick two for David Swallow and they give us a player or a pick as a sweetener.

In conclusion we acquire Yarran, Adams and Sloane or Swallow in exchange for pick 2 and Watts.

This is without even considering a priority pick.

Demonland crashes and we all go outside to the beach!

Not quite sure but it might involve Gary Ablett for pick 76

Really good topic to take our minds off the unbelievable amount of dung hanging around AFL at the moment.

1. New President and Senior Coach

2. Get Clark and Dawes fit, for crying out loud!!!!

3. With everything we have got, get one of Sewell, Del Santo and/or Daisy Thomas. (1 experienced A grade midfielder)

4. With everything we have got, land one of Adams, Swallow, Sloane (1 young rising, potential A grade midfielder)

5. Only trade Watts/Syvlia if we get better than we are giving.

6. Big preseason for Hogan, Barry, Evans, Toumpas, Viney, Clisby, Terlich, D Kent - for the first time in a long time this list of young'ns looks capable.

7. Time to go Davey, Nicholson, Gillies, Sellar, Jetta, Bail.

8. A proud major sponsor, not some flaky nut bag like Energy Watch, or fly-by-night Opel. A company willing to promote themselves while helping to grow MFC.

Note: I hearby solemnly promise not to type the following phrases into the Demonland forum for the 2014 preseason:

elite kick

they looked really sharp

a big change from the training of Neeld

player "x" should get a game based on the training I have seen

Trengove has an injury and will not train until February

An ideal offseason for me would be for all players to be having the worst preseason of their career. For the players to be training [censored] poor on the track. For there to be nothing but negative vibes around the club, and that all players do not believe in where we are headed.

I don't want any of the players to feel a different culture with the arrival of the new coach, and that the new coach doesn't have them up and about.

Not one personal best is to be smashed this preseason, and when we go to Darwin, I want all players to suffer from heat exhaustion as soon as they land, so that they think it will mentally scar them for when they play a game up there during the season.

I also want the AFL to release a draw where we have to play Hawthorn, Geelong, Sydney all 3 times, and we don't play St Kilda or GWS at all.

We have had the opposite to the above for the past 7 years and it's delivered us fcuk all, so something has to change for 2014.

Edited August 13, 201311 yr by billy2803

1. Install Mark Williams as Coach

2. coax Walsh

3. Bartlett as president

4. Cameron Ling becomes player development coach

5. Michael Voss becomes Midfield coach

6. Neil Craig stays on as senior Assistant

7. keep leigh brown and jade Rawlings in current roles

free agents- Xavier Ellis, Dale Thomas

Trades- pick 1 to Collingwood for Steele Sidebottom and pick 12

Pick 2- Crows for Rory Sloane

Trade Watts to Calton for pick 9

Trade pick 9 and Jamar for Adams

Draft- pick 12: Dom Sheed

pick 18 Luke Dunstan

pick 35: Zac Jones

pick 53- Dayle Garlett

pick 71- upgrade Clisby

Rookie draft- young Best from Casey and Sam illies

delisted free agents- Mitch Robinson, Anthony Miles

2014 lineup

B: Zac Jones James Frawley Colin Garland

Hb: Jack Grimes Tom Mcdonald Xavier Ellis

C: Dale Thomas Nathan Jones Jack Trengove

Hf: Jack Viney Jesse Hogan Jeremy Howe

F: Chris Dawes Mitch Clark dean kent

FOL: Max Gawn steele Sidebottom Rory sloane

int Jimmy toumpas, dom Sheed, Mitch Robinson

sub: Anthony mIles

Really good topic to take our minds off the unbelievable amount of dung hanging around AFL at the moment.

1. New President and Senior Coach

2. Get Clark and Dawes fit, for crying out loud!!!!

3. With everything we have got, get one of Sewell, Del Santo and/or Daisy Thomas. (1 experienced A grade midfielder)

4. With everything we have got, land one of Adams, Swallow, Sloane (1 young rising, potential A grade midfielder)

5. Only trade Watts/Syvlia if we get better than we are giving.

6. Big preseason for Hogan, Barry, Evans, Toumpas, Viney, Clisby, Terlich, D Kent - for the first time in a long time this list of young'ns looks capable.

7. Time to go Davey, Nicholson, Gillies, Sellar, Jetta, Bail.

8. A proud major sponsor, not some flaky nut bag like Energy Watch, or fly-by-night Opel. A company willing to promote themselves while helping to grow MFC.

Note: I hearby solemnly promise not to type the following phrases into the Demonland forum for the 2014 preseason:

elite kick

they looked really sharp

a big change from the training of Neeld

player "x" should get a game based on the training I have seen

Trengove has an injury and will not train until February

Post of the decade.

1. Install Mark Williams as Coach

2. coax Walsh

3. Bartlett as president

4. Cameron Ling becomes player development coach

5. Michael Voss becomes Midfield coach

6. Neil Craig stays on as senior Assistant

7. keep leigh brown and jade Rawlings in current roles

free agents- Xavier Ellis, Dale Thomas

Trades- pick 1 to Collingwood for Steele Sidebottom and pick 12

Pick 2- Crows for Rory Sloane

Trade Watts to Calton for pick 9

Trade pick 9 and Jamar for Adams

Draft- pick 12: Dom Sheed

pick 18 Luke Dunstan

pick 35: Zac Jones

pick 53- Dayle Garlett

pick 71- upgrade Clisby

Rookie draft- young Best from Casey and Sam illies

delisted free agents- Mitch Robinson, Anthony Miles

2014 lineup

B: Zac Jones James Frawley Colin Garland

Hb: Jack Grimes Tom Mcdonald Xavier Ellis

C: Dale Thomas Nathan Jones Jack Trengove

Hf: Jack Viney Jesse Hogan Jeremy Howe

F: Chris Dawes Mitch Clark dean kent

FOL: Max Gawn steele Sidebottom Rory sloane

int Jimmy toumpas, dom Sheed, Mitch Robinson

sub: Anthony mIles

I like it, i like it. Even if only half of this happens it will be a win.

Coach = Mark Williams

Football Manager = Geoff Walsh

Michael Voss = new Midfield coach

Neil Craig = senior development coach

free agent-Dale Thomas

Trades- pick 2 to Collingwood for Steele Sidebottom and pick 12

Trades- Daniel Nicholson to Crows for Jarryd Lyons

Draft - pick 3 (PP) Matt Crouch

Draft- pick 12: Dom Sheed

pick 18 Nathan Freeman

pick 35: Zac Jones

delisted free agents- Mitch Robinson

delisted Demons (-8): Macdonald, Sellar, Gillies, Rodan, Davey, Jetta, Bail, Nicho (trade)

2014 lineup

B: Zac Jones James Frawley Colin Garland

Hb: Jack Grimes Tom Mcdonald Dean Terlich/Mitch Clisby®

C: Dale Thomas Jack Viney Jack Trengove

Hf: Jack Watts Jesse Hogan Jeremy Howe

F: Chris Dawes Mitch Clark Sam Blease

FOL: Max Gawn Steele Sidebottom Nathan Jones

int Jordie McKenzie, Dom Sheed, Mitch Robinson

sub:Jimmy Toumpas

emerg: Dean kent, Nathan Freeman, Jack Fitzpatrick, Colin Sylvia, Matt Crouch, Jarryd Lyons

This is a midfield supercharge...

Edited August 14, 201311 yr by spirit of norm smith

Coach = Mark Williams

Football Manager = Geoff Walsh

Michael Voss = new Midfield coach

Neil Craig = senior development coach

free agent-Dale Thomas

Trades- pick 2 to Collingwood for Steele Sidebottom and pick 12

Trades- Daniel Nicholson to Crows for Jarryd Lyons

Draft - pick 3 (PP) Matt Crouch

Draft- pick 12: Dom Sheed

pick 18 Nathan Freeman

pick 35: Zac Jones

delisted free agents- Mitch Robinson

delisted Demons (-8): Macdonald, Sellar, Gillies, Rodan, Davey, Jetta, Bail, Nicho (trade)

2014 lineup

B: Zac Jones James Frawley Colin Garland

Hb: Jack Grimes Tom Mcdonald Dean Terlich/Mitch Clisby®

C: Dale Thomas Jack Viney Jack Trengove

Hf: Jack Watts Jesse Hogan Jeremy Howe

F: Chris Dawes Mitch Clark Sam Blease

FOL: Max Gawn Steele Sidebottom Nathan Jones

int Jordie McKenzie, Dom Sheed, Mitch Robinson

sub:Jimmy Toumpas

emerg: Dean kent, Nathan Freeman, Jack Fitzpatrick, Colin Sylvia, Matt Crouch, Jarryd Lyons

This is a midfield supercharge...

Again, you want to trade out a guy not in our best 22 for another guy you don't see being in our best 22? Madness.

Have a bad day at work Moon?

So I am trying to be as realistic as possible, but this is how I'm thinking we can trade our way into a solid outfit for next year.

1. Straight swap with Watts for Yarran, benefiting both teams giving us the leg speed and skills that we have been craving.

2. Offer Taylor Adams a heap of cash to walk into the PSD and we take him for nothing, I might be dreaming on this one.

3. Pick two for Rory Sloane (straight swap), maybe the exchange of later picks. Or pick two for David Swallow and they give us a player or a pick as a sweetener.

In conclusion we acquire Yarran, Adams and Sloane or Swallow in exchange for pick 2 and Watts.

This is without even considering a priority pick.

I like it

1. Install Mark Williams as Coach

2. coax Walsh

3. Bartlett as president

4. Cameron Ling becomes player development coach

5. Michael Voss becomes Midfield coach

6. Neil Craig stays on as senior Assistant

7. keep leigh brown and jade Rawlings in current roles

free agents- Xavier Ellis, Dale Thomas

Trades- pick 1 to Collingwood for Steele Sidebottom and pick 12

Pick 2- Crows for Rory Sloane

Trade Watts to Calton for pick 9

Trade pick 9 and Jamar for Adams

Draft- pick 12: Dom Sheed

pick 18 Luke Dunstan

pick 35: Zac Jones

pick 53- Dayle Garlett

pick 71- upgrade Clisby

Rookie draft- young Best from Casey and Sam illies

delisted free agents- Mitch Robinson, Anthony Miles

2014 lineup

B: Zac Jones James Frawley Colin Garland

Hb: Jack Grimes Tom Mcdonald Xavier Ellis

C: Dale Thomas Nathan Jones Jack Trengove

Hf: Jack Viney Jesse Hogan Jeremy Howe

F: Chris Dawes Mitch Clark dean kent

FOL: Max Gawn steele Sidebottom Rory sloane

int Jimmy toumpas, dom Sheed, Mitch Robinson

sub: Anthony mIles

Jesus Christ u have put a lot of thought into this. Props to u

Have a bad day at work Moon?

Play the ball, not the man Bitter.

Play the ball, not the man Bitter.

I would no longer be bitter if I did that!

Again, you want to trade out a guy not in our best 22 for another guy you don't see being in our best 22? Madness.

Jarryd Lyons has huge upside. 21yo. Skilled. Determined.

Nicholson is timid. Weak.

That's the difference.

1. Install Mark Williams as Coach

2. coax Walsh

3. Bartlett as president

4. Cameron Ling becomes player development coach

5. Michael Voss becomes Midfield coach

6. Neil Craig stays on as senior Assistant

7. keep leigh brown and jade Rawlings in current roles

free agents- Xavier Ellis, Dale Thomas

Trades- pick 1 to Collingwood for Steele Sidebottom and pick 12

Pick 2- Crows for Rory Sloane

Trade Watts to Calton for pick 9

Trade pick 9 and Jamar for Adams

Draft- pick 12: Dom Sheed

pick 18 Luke Dunstan

pick 35: Zac Jones

pick 53- Dayle Garlett

pick 71- upgrade Clisby

Rookie draft- young Best from Casey and Sam illies

delisted free agents- Mitch Robinson, Anthony Miles

2014 lineup

B: Zac Jones James Frawley Colin Garland

Hb: Jack Grimes Tom Mcdonald Xavier Ellis

C: Dale Thomas Nathan Jones Jack Trengove

Hf: Jack Viney Jesse Hogan Jeremy Howe

F: Chris Dawes Mitch Clark dean kent

FOL: Max Gawn steele Sidebottom Rory sloane

int Jimmy toumpas, dom Sheed, Mitch Robinson

sub: Anthony mIles

i really love your ambition.

But where are we going to get pick 1 from hahaha?

but nice

we will get pick 1 as a PP mate, id be shocked if we dont

Wont get pick 1. If we get a pp it will be end of round 1

why do you say that srjennings? gws have heaps of talent just need time, we need help

All I want for Xmas is for Jessie Hogan to fall in love with a Melbourne girl and they stay together for at least 10 years.

So I am trying to be as realistic as possible, but this is how I'm thinking we can trade our way into a solid outfit for next year.

1. Straight swap with Watts for Yarran, benefiting both teams giving us the leg speed and skills that we have been craving.

2. Offer Taylor Adams a heap of cash to walk into the PSD and we take him for nothing, I might be dreaming on this one.

3. Pick two for Rory Sloane (straight swap), maybe the exchange of later picks. Or pick two for David Swallow and they give us a player or a pick as a sweetener.

In conclusion we acquire Yarran, Adams and Sloane or Swallow in exchange for pick 2 and Watts.

This is without even considering a priority pick.

I watched Yarran on the weekend, he has speed but his supposed skill goes missing when he needs it most like when he is in front of goal. I've got no problem with Watts leaving but I want more than Yarran for him.

Edited August 20, 201311 yr by Al's Demons

why do you say that srjennings? gws have heaps of talent just need time, we need help

I just think the AFL are going to make us tough it out. We have blown way too many over the last few years. Dont get me wrong i think we do need one. The last couple of years the draft has been [censored] because of the expansion sides taking top talent. Our [censored] poor performance and list is the clubs fault due to an array of things from poor development, poor draft picks. I could go on but you know what i mean. Time will tell. I just want to see the demons put some consistant games together

Can the AFL give us PP pick 1 with the proviso that we on-trade it for current player/s?

Can the AFL give us PP pick 1 with the proviso that we on-trade it for current player/s?

The AFL can do whatever they want basically, i think we will get pick 1 because we have been shocking for 7 years, our average losing margin is 10 goals or something, we have lost by 90 plus points 6 times this year, lowest crowds i have ever seen for MFC

GWS on the other hand it's all on the up, unlike us they don't need pick 1, it'd be a nice addition as it would for any other team but all they really need is time to become a superpower of the AFL