...and I'm saying it won't happen partly because WADA will be taking an interest in proceedings.

do you know someting? or just sayin?

we've been talking about essendon and its players with regard to what asada might do

but what about punishing danks?

will asada (try to) ban him from all asada compliant competitions/clubs and maybe fine him (doubtful)?

they can hardly punish others without punishing him.........or can they?

of course they can, and will

This is more about the players and their responsibilities, the rest are really just dominoes.

who has got any evidence on him. no one except maybe the pharmacist who mixed the concoctions.

& some possible circumstantial import invoices.

but with experimental substances, that customs wouldn't have even have hird of, they probably couldn't test the substances at the airport.

the only one would be the pharmacist, who is I think, an unreliable sort for a witness. even the pharmacist possibly doesn't know what the substances were he was mixing, if the Boss was clever.

the players certainly don't know what was injected, being told one thing is far from fact. unless they have a sample in a vial.

a licensed chemist who would make and supply a prescription without knowing the ingredients and acknowledge it?

i think not - his license is his livelihood

of course they can, and will

This is more about the players and their responsibilities, the rest are really just dominoes.

just curious, that's all

who has got any evidence on him. no one except maybe the pharmacist who mixed the concoctions.

& some possible circumstantial import invoices.

but with experimental substances, that customs wouldn't have even have hird of, they probably couldn't test the substances at the airport.

the only one would be the pharmacist, who is I think, an unreliable sort for a witness. even the pharmacist possibly doesn't know what the substances were he was mixing, if the Boss was clever.

the players certainly don't know what was injected, being told one thing is far from fact. unless they have a sample in a vial.

You have to remember how this investigation came into being in the first place, the ACC.

Now whether they have evidence on Dank who knows but you would have to think they have some pretty strong evidence on someone or many someones.

a licensed chemist who would make and supply a prescription without knowing the ingredients and acknowledge it?

i think not - his license is his livelihood

you haven't seen the guy, have you?

I think he was de-registered, or something shady. & foreign with poor verbal skills.

You have to remember how this investigation came into being in the first place, the ACC.

Now whether they have evidence on Dank who knows but you would have to think they have some pretty strong evidence on someone or many someones.

mix 35mls of bottle 'C' with 65mls of sinister sauce, shake & label Vitamin 'C' ; & then take 7.5mls of this substance, & inject intramuscular, into No 24, on 1/4/2013 @ 3.45PM.

say no more

you haven't seen the guy, have you?

I think he was de-registered, or something shady. & foreign with poor verbal skills.

do you know he was de-registered? source please d-l?

if he was, then that would put dank and hence essendon in even more trouble, buying and using unknown substances from a de-registered pharmacist

do you know he was de-registered? source please d-l?

if he was, then that would put dank and hence essendon in even more trouble, buying and using unknown substances from a de-registered pharmacist

he was on the tv, news, of something way back. I can't recall everything but he was dodgy. it was on one of the many shows at the time.

they went to his house as well & gave some background on his past. no comment was the reply.

Wouldn't surprise me if the compounding pharmacist is the lynch pin to all this.

mix 35mls of bottle 'C' with 65mls of sinister sauce, shake & label Vitamin 'C' ; & then take 7.5mls of this substance, & inject intramuscular, into No 24, on 1/4/2013 @ 3.45PM.

say no more

Good to know someone has kept the records.

so,

all the drugs being investigated came from this guy

he was a de-registered pharmacist

he was 'dodgy' (surprise)

he didn't know what the ingredients were

and you saw this on tv way back

so,

all the drugs being investigated came from this guy

he was a de-registered pharmacist

he was 'dodgy' (surprise)

he didn't know what the ingredients were

and you saw this on tv way back

Mmmm, sounds fishy to me. Don't think we will ever know what really went on. The Alan Bond defence may pop up, but I don't quite remember what it is.

It would appear that Essendon have behaved in their own self interest all along, part of that is an inadvertent act that may save the players from charges. I would be appalled to have a son playing for them and would be taking legal/medical advice re action against the club in the future, but keeping powder dry for now. This is far from the end.

While this has been dealt ad nauseam earlier in this long thread, any inadvertent act of Essendon will not mitigate or protect the players from ASADA charges. If ASADA can establish that a player has taken a banned substance deliberately or inadvertently he is gone. It's cruel but it is what is.

Regardless of ASADA outcomes, notices or not I can see a number of plausible outcomes which involve the Courts.

You have to remember how this investigation came into being in the first place, the ACC.

Now whether they have evidence on Dank who knows but you would have to think they have some pretty strong evidence on someone or many someones.

ACC may have interest in him for the potential importation and distribution of banned substances. I am not sure what specific ASADA/WADA provisions would specifically apply to him.

.........& foreign with poor verbal skills.

A-haaa, the smoking gun proof!

No wonder they did not interview him...couldn't find an interpreter...Hmmm

Don't forget the Doctor just across from Caulfield Race Course. Was front and back page news in the HUN last year for one day and then not mentioned again. Wish i had kept the pages. Left the country just before Christmas. He was in it up to his neck i was told by a very close source.

It wasn't just Essendrug either in his words.

Alternatively if there are no club records what is the basis of the prosecution?

I would expect Notices should be based on more than circumstantial evidence.

For a start, I think under the WADA code, that is enough to lay charges ( circumstantial evidence ).

Remember there was surveillance, chemists giving evidence of what they sold to Dank and the Club, admissions from players, admissions by the club of injecting of substances, probably no proof of legal substances being purchased and injected, probably statements of people off campus who injected the players, statements by Reid that he knew of substances being given and didn't approve, statements by Dank to the ACC etc.

so,

all the drugs being investigated came from this guy

he was a de-registered pharmacist

he was 'dodgy' (surprise)

he didn't know what the ingredients were

and you saw this on tv way back

Don't think he was a Pharmacist.

Don't think he was a Pharmacist.

it was d-l who described him originally as a pharmacist

anyway whatever his title if he is legitimately making up drugs and dispensing them,then i would expect you need some sort of a license for this

Good to know someone has kept the records.

it was d-l who described him originally as a pharmacist

anyway whatever his title if he is legitimately making up drugs and dispensing them,then i would expect you need some sort of a license for this

remember language isn't my first english DC.

For a start, I think under the WADA code, that is enough to lay charges ( circumstantial evidence ).

Remember there was surveillance, chemists giving evidence of what they sold to Dank and the Club, admissions from players, admissions by the club of injecting of substances, probably no proof of legal substances being purchased and injected, probably statements of people off campus who injected the players, statements by Reid that he knew of substances being given and didn't approve, statements by Dank to the ACC etc.

sounds like a long drawn out case, with a no result to end it; then big $ interviews for the world media to follow.

I said we should have sweet talked one of the Bummer players early days. now they'll all be as thick as 2 thieving Gorillas in a red mist.

I'll be amazed when something finally happens. This has been the most drawn out bloody thing ever. Just punish the bastards

I'll be amazed when something finally happens. This has been the most drawn out bloody thing ever. Just punish the bastards

the trouble is a long drawn out prolonged court case with 2 of the countries biggest sporting codes getting trashed thru the media, would smash the already tough sponsor environment, at a time when companies are already pulling their purses tight.

fred villiers would be grinning to his back teeth.