Carlton tanking

[old dee 23,872]

AA is now gone.

Everyone at the AFL now realises where trail blazing leaves you.

[Redleg 41,451]

AA is now gone.

Everyone at the AFL now realises where trail blazing leaves you.

What about blatant discrimination in the treatment of one club in respect to another. Where does that leave you?

A former Carlton premiership player, interviews a former Carlton assistant Coach, hears the allegations and says no case. The Chairman of the AFL is a former Carlton Premiership captain.

The assistant Coach repeats the allegations, on the same channel that Brock appeared on and to the same interviewer, is corroborated by the former club leading goal kicker, Fev, in his book and in the papers and nothing happens.

[rjay 25,092]

What about blatant discrimination in the treatment of one club in respect to another. Where does that leave you?

A former Carlton premiership player, interviews a former Carlton assistant Coach, hears the allegations and says no case. The Chairman of the AFL is a former Carlton Premiership captain.

The assistant Coach repeats the allegations, on the same channel that Brock appeared on and to the same interviewer, is corroborated by the former club leading goal kicker, Fev, in his book and in the papers and nothing happens.

Not good 'Redleg',but they do make it up on the run as we're just about to see with Essendon.

[Sir Why You Little 37,133]

Libba was interviewed by Curly Austin. Says it all.

What a total disgrace.

The AFL under Vlad is in a huge mess. Whilst he enjoys yearly overseas sojurns...

[beelzebub 23,383]

What about blatant discrimination in the treatment of one club in respect to another. Where does that leave you?

A former Carlton premiership player, interviews a former Carlton assistant Coach, hears the allegations and says no case. The Chairman of the AFL is a former Carlton Premiership captain.

The assistant Coach repeats the allegations, on the same channel that Brock appeared on and to the same interviewer, is corroborated by the former club leading goal kicker, Fev, in his book and in the papers and nothing happens.

Im sorry, are you insinuating theres something untoward here ? Can't see it myself. Am sure it was totally above board.

Now Im sure if youll just look at it all through a pair of these

youll see how it really is !!!

[old dee 23,872]

What about blatant discrimination in the treatment of one club in respect to another. Where does that leave you?

A former Carlton premiership player, interviews a former Carlton assistant Coach, hears the allegations and says no case. The Chairman of the AFL is a former Carlton Premiership captain.

The assistant Coach repeats the allegations, on the same channel that Brock appeared on and to the same interviewer, is corroborated by the former club leading goal kicker, Fev, in his book and in the papers and nothing happens.

The result I draw from that Redleg is I should buy a Blues membership in 2014 not a dees one!

We have no hope.

I better get with the strength.

[KLV 1,768]

Where is Caroline Wilson's outrage?

[dee-luded 2,959]

What about blatant discrimination in the treatment of one club in respect to another. Where does that leave you?

A former Carlton premiership player, interviews a former Carlton assistant Coach, hears the allegations and says no case. The Chairman of the AFL is a former Carlton Premiership captain.

The assistant Coach repeats the allegations, on the same channel that Brock appeared on and to the same interviewer, is corroborated by the former club leading goal kicker, Fev, in his book and in the papers and nothing happens.

the attack dogs are chained in their kennels.

[DemonFrog 1,356]

Never been a fan of Vlads as he always appeared to me to be a bulliy and more interested in himself then the AFL.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,303]

I wouldn't blame the AFL for turning a blind eye.

We can't risk damaging the reputation of the AFL anymore - whats done is done but that doesn't mean it can't be prevented in the future

Turning a blind eye, playing favourites and selectively applying their rules is what damages their reputation.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,303]

Sheahan: 2008, you're back in the headlines for implying strongly that Carlton hasn't been trying in certain games, at the height of the tanking issue. You backed away from that did you not?

Libba: No I didn't back away from that. Players will always try on the football ground..

S: That's a given.

L: Yep, so that's the misconception about tanking..they were managed in a different way. Now, I still believe that's something that occurred. I mean, we had things that were put in place. We had players who at the time were told, "don't play for the rest of the year, the last three of four games, you've got an injured shin", or whatever. And to me that's tanking, isn't it?

S: Well, let's be clear here. I agree with you that no-one, even those of us who thought tanking existed have ever said the players weren't trying. What we say tanking is, is a football club constructing a team that won't play at its best, by either leaving blokes out, playing them in odd positions or taking them off the ground.

L: Well that's it then.

S: Did that happen at Carlton?

L: Yes.

S: So, for clarity here, you're saying that when you were at Carlton, there were days when Carlton weren't doing everything in their power to play at their best.

L: If you're pulling players off the ground, Brendan Fevola at certain times, then I'd say yes.

S: Did the AFL come to you and explore those claims?

L: Yes.

S: Did you stand firm on that or did you back away?

L: Um, did I back away? I spoke to Rod Austin who was working at the time for the AFL. I gave him an interview of what I saw, and that was it. Then he basically just said "thanks for that", and then the next thing you hear it's via the newspapers, Carlton didn't tank. *shrugs*

S: So your view is still clear in your mind that there were times when Carlton didn't do everything in their power to win the game of footy, which we would call tanking.

L: If you want to use that word, or "list management".

If they are not investigated by Haddad and Clothier like we were on the back of this I'm just about ready to give away the game (AFL anyway). I realise that will hurt MFC more than it hurts the AFL but it just an absolute disgrace that this admission/perception can be made/stated and nothing is done compared to what we had to go through.

[deanox 9,989]

Not even the betting agencies are squawking!

[mjt 640]

Libba was interviewed by Curly Austin. Says it all.

What a total disgrace.

The AFL under Vlad is in a huge mess. Whilst he enjoys yearly overseas sojurns...

Its a joke isn't it, the guys a Carlton life member.

[rjay 25,092]

Unfortunately for us I think AA actually thought the AFL meant it when they talked of integrity. Silly Adrian, unfortunate us.

Integrity seems to be the last stand when all else fails a little bit like Essendons talk of natural justice.