i love nathan as much as any player previously pulled on a jumper, if only judged by his grit and determination.& consistancy..

but unfortunately he is seen or comes across as not the smartest tool in the shed..& as such shoots himself in the foot..

too nice & not as quick on the uptake in the iq stakes..( ala maloney.. )

Stef Martin was really smart, should he have been captain instead?

We clearly have several players who could be captain, inc Nathan jones, the question being is the captaincy really JT's biggest issue or some sort of serious injury that has been holding him back the past two years?

Stef Martin was really smart, should he have been captain instead?

ignorant retort.!

martin =mr fumbles ! average ability- - no consistency- not grit- no determination to improve to next level.-- immature..sook.

nobody would follow- he is a follower..

BUT, he can tell the difference from his miniscus to his equilateral triangular pubis; whoopie doo.

Edited May 6, 201312 yr by fuchsia

ignorant retort.!

martin =mr fumbles ! average ability- - no consistency- not grit- no determination to improve to next level.-- immature..sook.

nobody would follow- he is a follower..

BUT, he can tell the difference from his miniscus to his equalateral triangular pubis; whoopie doo.

It's AFL, not rocket science. Would you rather a gutsy inspirational captain or a clever one?

i love nathan as much as any player previously pulled on a jumper, if only judged by his grit and determination.& consistancy..

but unfortunately he is seen or comes across as not the smartest tool in the shed..& as such shoots himself in the foot..

too nice & not as quick on the uptake in the iq stakes..( ala maloney.. )

I think intelligence shouldn't come into it, he is a leader, he leads by example and if Trengove stays as co-captain he can handle that side of it while Jones shoulders the playing side of things and let Jack focus on his game.

Watching FC tonight was interesting where Gary didn't just seem convinced they were going to elevate him in the absence of Grimes, he believed it was the protocol that was always in place. It was also interesting that he couldn't understand why all the others were so surprised, I must admit what Lloyd was saying made sense in that most clubs if you have a co-captain system and one goes down then the other becomes sole captain. I just wonder whether Gary knows something that we don't, that this was a planned scenario, particularly if it was Grimes that went down with a LTI.

Agree. We wrongly dumped the pressure of co captaincy on a young kid funding his way.

Gee, I knew we were in bad shape, but having these kids paying to play is going way beyond the pale!! Neeld should be stripped of the coaching position immediately!!

Give Jack Watts a run in the ruck: Robert Walls.

Give Jack Watts a run in the ruck: Robert Walls.

Walls would run Watts all day in the ruck to show him how tough footy can be.

At least he'd have to actually give a contest.

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but unfortunately he is seen or comes across as not the smartest tool in the shed..& as such shoots himself in the foot..

What is the smartest tool in the shed?

but unfortunately he is seen or comes across as not the smartest tool in the shed..& as such shoots himself in the foot..

too nice & not as quick on the uptake in the iq stakes..( ala maloney.. )

What an absolute load of rubbish... Jones is a reasonably bright person who carries himself quite well in interviews - he certainly does not fall behind when it comes to IQ levels. In the past my only issue was that he seemed a little introverted, but that is certainly no longer the case; his confidence in himself as a person and a leader has grown with his confidence in his footballing abilities.

Isn't he basically co-captain anyway?

I was of the belief that even though Trenners and Grimes are "officially" captains, the leadership group collectively has the same goal to lead the group.

Making him "co-captain" wouldn't change anything aside from making fans think he is actually doing more than what he's already doing.

"Captain" these days is really just "media front" anyway. Nothing would change. He's already captain. Giving him the official title will just...well...give him an official title.

Wait until 2014.

Edited May 7, 201312 yr by Cudi_420

Damien Barrett is saying exactly what walls did and pretending it was his idea, seriously this bloke will take any excuse to have a dig at Melbourne.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-07/dees-should-give-jack-a-break

Damien Barrett is saying exactly what walls did and pretending it was his idea, seriously this bloke will take any excuse to have a dig at Melbourne.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-07/dees-should-give-jack-a-break

my hatred for Damien Barrett is unparalleled. He speaks about footy as if he's reporting on the worlds biggest issues and i've never heard him come out with anything that isnt either over sensationalised or just a paraphrased version of what everyone else has been saying all week.

my hatred for Damien Barrett is unparalleled. He speaks about footy as if he's reporting on the worlds biggest issues and i've never heard him come out with anything that isnt either over sensationalised or just a paraphrased version of what everyone else has been saying all week.

He basically says Trengove would make a great captain anywhere but here. what a [censored]

He basically says Trengove would make a great captain anywhere but here. what a [censored]

That may well be true.

He would not have to win every game off his own boot and could probably spend more time in the forward line where IMO he is more suited.

Damien Barrett is saying exactly what walls did and pretending it was his idea, seriously this bloke will take any excuse to have a dig at Melbourne.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-05-07/dees-should-give-jack-a-break

As soon as I saw this article in my twitter feed I promptly responded with the following:

@AFL @barrettdamian how about coming up with an original article rather than just copying Robert Walls' opinion from sen yesterday. Lazy.

Unsurprisingly, no reply has been received.

Seriously, the fact that he is one of the key reporters for the AFL is embarrassing.

As soon as I saw this article in my twitter feed I promptly responded with the following:

@AFL @barrettdamian how about coming up with an original article rather than just copying Robert Walls' opinion from sen yesterday. Lazy.

Unsurprisingly, no reply has been received.

Seriously, the fact that he is one of the key reporters for the AFL is embarrassing.

Well said, and to be honest i wouldn't be surprised if the suggestion that the captaincy might be abit much for jack is being floated around the club anyway, they clearly know things we don't or you would think that Rawlings, craig, brown, viney someone would have suggested this to Neeld anyway.

What could it do to Trengove's confidence to be told we're making Jones co-Captain?

I don't think it was the right decision to make him and Grimes co-Captains (I don't support the concept of co-Captains, either). But once done, it shouldn't be undone. Robert Walls was quite a good coach, but understanding how to manage the psyche of his players was never one of his coaching attributes.

What could it do to Trengove's confidence to be told we're making Jones co-Captain?

I don't think it was the right decision to make him and Grimes co-Captains (I don't support the concept of co-Captains, either). But once done, it shouldn't be undone. Robert Walls was quite a good coach, but understanding how to manage the psyche of his players was never one of his coaching attributes.

I guess my thought would be that watching him right now his confidence in himself and his body is already at an all time low. Having Jones there as back up in an official capacity could taken of the burden of him. We can't take the captaincy away from him (Barett suggests) that would be a slap in the face but giving him back up would I think help him.

Trenners confidence is shot to pieces. His bloody teammates should be getting him involved more in the game and supporting him with possessions. He needs his hands on the pill.

As soon as I saw this article in my twitter feed I promptly responded with the following:

@AFL @barrettdamian how about coming up with an original article rather than just copying Robert Walls' opinion from sen yesterday. Lazy.

Unsurprisingly, no reply has been received.

Seriously, the fact that he is one of the key reporters for the AFL is embarrassing.

Unfortunately Brad Miller retweeted (still follow him coz he puts good pics of Pia up sometimes), so I tweeted this as well

"don't retweet this clown Brad, he will begin to think he is right, which he very rarely is....Trenners is fine"

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2013-05-09/jones-and-garland-earn-elevated-leadership-roles

its happened

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2013-05-09/jones-and-garland-earn-elevated-leadership-roles

its happened

Mate, you buried the lead...Jack Grimes on to LTI which means a rookie can be elevated.

Mate, you buried the lead...Jack Grimes on to LTI which means a rookie can be elevated.

yeah wasnt sure which thread to post it in so picked this one.

Looking forward to seeing Magner on the team sheet tonight

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2013-05-09/jones-and-garland-earn-elevated-leadership-roles

its happened

Wow.

I worry more for Jack Trengove's confidence now...