The bungle was not giving Fitzy a crack.

Maybe too valuable at Casey.

Nup, we were never going to win that game... Its better to pick the right game to bring a kid in re development. horses for courses.

imo, we played small as a defensive measure, but will killed the ball.

Love these topics and the posters are the usual members or the Hole in the Head gang, keyboards running hot with negativity, rain clouds hovering

Jones is a differnt type of player, but bloody good on him for doing so well

He was a mature age recruit at North, drafted for a purpose which then didn't eventuate, why was he underdone, proof.

My previous post, nice to see CFB come back with his usual incisive garbage, I await the day when he will actually post something that a. is related to the topic b. not having a go at somebody...but then again I may be in for a long wait

Rodan doesn't have to be in the AFL side to influence, I watched the Casey game and he was one who help drag Casey back into the game in the last qtr, to just fall short

Love these topics and the posters are the usual members or the Hole in the Head gang, keyboards running hot with negativity, rain clouds hovering

Jones is a differnt type of player, but bloody good on him for doing so well

He was a mature age recruit at North, drafted for a purpose which then didn't eventuate, why was he underdone, proof.

My previous post, nice to see CFB come back with his usual incisive garbage, I await the day when he will actually post something that a. is related to the topic b. not having a go at somebody...but then again I may be in for a long wait

Rodan doesn't have to be in the AFL side to influence, I watched the Casey game and he was one who help drag Casey back into the game in the last qtr, to just fall short

Big Help to our MFC Senior side.... We buying "dud" recruits to lift Casey now are we ??? God help us !!!

No it didn't.

We could have picked up Hannath instead of one of the 4 &/or upgraded Magner to give Jones a hand. Who would you prefer Hannath or Pederson/Rodan/Gillies?

Big Help to our MFC Senior side.... We buying "dud" recruits to lift Casey now are we ??? God help us !!!

Rodan can be having a positive impact on the club with his positive personality, his teaching and his work ethic at training without necessarily being in the senior side every week. He cost pick 88.

Rodan can be having a positive impact on the club with his positive personality, his teaching and his work ethic at training without necessarily being in the senior side every week. He cost pick 88.

Soxy, no idea really have you, try reading what I and Fifty-5 wrote

Love these topics and the posters are the usual members or the Hole in the Head gang, keyboards running hot with negativity, rain clouds hovering

Jones is a differnt type of player, but bloody good on him for doing so well

He was a mature age recruit at North, drafted for a purpose which then didn't eventuate, why was he underdone, proof.

My previous post, nice to see CFB come back with his usual incisive garbage, I await the day when he will actually post something that a. is related to the topic b. not having a go at somebody...but then again I may be in for a long wait

Rodan doesn't have to be in the AFL side to influence, I watched the Casey game and he was one who help drag Casey back into the game in the last qtr, to just fall short

Training reports from the club.

Training reports from the club.

He wouldn't have been picked if he was underdone, what reports, I watched him complete most sessions that I attened throught the preseason, which was at least 8

We could have picked up Hannath instead of one of the 4 &/or upgraded Magner to give Jones a hand. Who would you prefer Hannath or Pederson/Rodan/Gillies?

Not a hard choice there Robbie.

He wouldn't have been picked if he was underdone, what reports, I watched him complete most sessions that I attened throught the preseason, which was at least 8

His first session at the club came in skin folds over and well down in the time trials. We can go on about this but the fact is he better pull his finger out, he has given us nothing and that you can't argue with (well you probably could).

Your right mate.

We all knew going into the game we had no forward line.

Fitzpatrick had 7 goals in 2 games

And we invested heavy in Pederson so why not play him.

Once again shocking coaching. Even having Fitz and Pederson we prob would of lost by the same, but for god sake we need structure.

I am happy enough with the logic behind not playing Fitzpatrick yet, even though it hurts to not have a tall target. It would suck if he came in, kicked a few and then broke down again. We certainly don't want his first game of the year to be against a team that thrashes us on a regular basis. I would say that next week is a good opportunity to give him a run against slightly weaker opposition (especially without Warnock in their back line). If not, then they may wind up shelving him until later on when we face GWS again.

His first session at the club came in skin folds over and well down in the time trials. We can go on about this but the fact is he better pull his finger out, he has given us nothing and that you can't argue with (well you probably could).

I thought you were in agreement with the other posters who said he had nothing to offer, so he has offered exactly that, how do you know the above by the way? about the skin folds and time trials?

My previous post, nice to see CFB come back with his usual incisive garbage, I await the day when he will actually post something that a. is related to the topic b. not having a go at somebody...but then again I may be in for a long wait

You know I love you honey.

We could have picked up Hannath instead of one of the 4 &/or upgraded Magner to give Jones a hand. Who would you prefer Hannath or Pederson/Rodan/Gillies?

Magner isn't going anywhere and Hannath is an unknown quantity.

You know I love you honey.

I was wondering whether you were trying to emaulate your namesake with the brevity, but now I realise you have absolutely nothing to offer, I assume this will leave you sniggering behind your keyboard

Getting back on topic, would assume the mail about Hannath did not include Fremantle seriously considering him, they hadn't invited him over and not spoken to him a lot, hence I think the Club thought they would rookie him

Your right mate.

We all knew going into the game we had no forward line.

Fitzpatrick had 7 goals in 2 games

And we invested heavy in Pederson so why not play him.

Once again shocking coaching. Even having Fitz and Pederson we prob would of lost by the same, but for god sake we need structure.

ash how would Fitzy &/or pederson have helped us re butchering the ball under pressure thru our midzone? It wasn't the lack of forwards that was the big problem, it was not being a settled lineup & lacking the composure that comes thru this.

the Carlton team, after seeing how things have shaped as of Rnd 5, were always going to be way to slick for us, so instead of being run off our feet by mid 3rd term & another 16 goal thumping, I would say the selectors opted for Plenty of run in the lineup.

we got thru, but we didn't manage to keep our Cool & keep our ball.... we coughed & spluttered along like an unconfident side does against a more mature & classy team.

Nup, we were never going to win that game... Its better to pick the right game to bring a kid in re development. horses for courses.

imo, we played small as a defensive measure, but will killed the ball.

If the blue sky structure-wise is to have two tall forwards in Clark and Dawes there as our best players, then why not foster that system with our younger players like Fitz when C & D are unavailable?

I appreciate it's a lot more complex than what I put forward but seriously when is Fitz going to get another chance to show his wares?

If the blue sky structure-wise is to have two tall forwards in Clark and Dawes there as our best players, then why not foster that system with our younger players like Fitz when C & D are unavailable?

I appreciate it's a lot more complex than what I put forward but seriously when is Fitz going to get another chance to show his wares?

Fitzy is only 3 games into his season, I assume he will be rewarded at some stage, but I prefer this way, you don't want to bouncing backwards and forwards, although he and Chris Dawes did work well at the weekend

Pederson, Rodan and Gillies are still new to a club that is playing crap football, they have not shown what they can do, but the same can be said for most of the team. Some time with Casey may help bring them along. I agree we were lacking a tall against the blues, we had no one to contest in the air. Everyone has noticed Jack has been slow and getting slower, he must be rested or dropped back to Casey, its a tough decisions but if the coaches cannot make a hard decision then they are making a further mockery of MFC aspiring to be the hardest team to play against (without falling over laughing).

ash how would Fitzy &/or pederson have helped us re butchering the ball under pressure thru our midzone? It wasn't the lack of forwards that was the big problem, it was not being a settled lineup & lacking the composure that comes thru this.

the Carlton team, after seeing how things have shaped as of Rnd 5, were always going to be way to slick for us, so instead of being run off our feet by mid 3rd term & another 16 goal thumping, I would say the selectors opted for Plenty of run in the lineup.

we got thru, but we didn't manage to keep our Cool & keep our ball.... we coughed & spluttered along like an unconfident side does against a more mature & classy team.

But this IS the point. My opening comments wre at least partly based upon comments by Blues' supporters, including a couple of ex players. If defenders or mids know they can't kick forward to a target, poor decisions follow. They were watching, for example, Howes who had a dreadful day against much bigger opponents. Unless it is wet a forward line without talls is manner from heaven for defenders. One other point. Why not play Pederson and see if as a lone forward, he has anything to offer. Structure maintained, the other forwards having someone to crumb under.

Didn't we give Gysberts for Pederson?

ash how would Fitzy &/or pederson have helped us re butchering the ball under pressure thru our midzone? It wasn't the lack of forwards that was the big problem, it was not being a settled lineup & lacking the composure that comes thru this.

the Carlton team, after seeing how things have shaped as of Rnd 5, were always going to be way to slick for us, so instead of being run off our feet by mid 3rd term & another 16 goal thumping, I would say the selectors opted for Plenty of run in the lineup.

we got thru, but we didn't manage to keep our Cool & keep our ball.... we coughed & spluttered along like an unconfident side does against a more mature & classy team.

Once again I know we did not lose because player x dint play and so on, but having Pederson and Fitz who I might add was in good form helps straighten us up and gives us a contest when the ball actually did go in the 50. Having Spencer/Gawn as the key forward who Jamison and Henderson eaisly run off did not help.

Magner isn't going anywhere and Hannath is an unknown quantity.

Whereas Gillies, Rodan and Pederson are, Magner would have been much better for us than any of these three and Hannath is getting a game at a club that is winning them.

I was wondering whether you were trying to emaulate your namesake with the brevity, but now I realise you have absolutely nothing to offer, I assume this will leave you sniggering behind your keyboard

Getting back on topic, would assume the mail about Hannath did not include Fremantle seriously considering him, they hadn't invited him over and not spoken to him a lot, hence I think the Club thought they would rookie him

There's the quick and the dead in this business and we certainly aren't quick.

Pre season we gave away a high first round pick for Cam Pederson.

We gave away a high pick from years earlier that had depreciated to almost zero.. not even close to the same thing.

Some people need to realise we have a whole group of professional coaches that are privy to a hell of a lot more than you or I know. You would think it reasonable just to have a tiny bit of faith and trust in them to pick the side they want to pick each week, wouldn't you? No that it matters, because no matter what they do there will be a bloom of spineless jellyfish on this board to pot them for it.

We have clearly gotten far better then we were 4 weeks ago. At the moment we are capable of playing a couple of good quarters per week but fading out in other parts badly. We are potentially not far away at all from the wheel turning. They are still a very, very young group and are just getting used to each other and the coach. Nathan Jones is still just 25 but has the stature of a 30 year old veteran at our club. There is a heap of talent that is miles from reaching its ceiling on this list. Instead of shirting all over everything they are trying to do can we PLEASE show a little SUPPORT for once

I for one expect a massive victory this weekend which will give them a nice little boost

I guess the one thing in Pedo's favour as far as the trade goes is that Gys hasn't played a game for NMFC. That puts us marginally ahead in that our guy has played a few poor games at least. I still think we paid too much, especially since we downgraded in a pick swap as well. Given the relative merits of the players and their careers to date I would have said Gys had more currency and that they should be giving us a low pick as a sweetener.