On 15/01/2013 at 02:52, iv said:

Ohhhhhh pleeeeaaase. Let's just beg to differ shall we. Isn't that what a forum is about? Fan, please go an stand in the corner for 30 minutes and when you come back in the morning, I want 150 lines from you stating: "I must not hold an opinion, unless I satisfy others of my right to hold one"

You are not the Messiah, you're just a very naughty boy.

OK, I'm off. Thanks for the chat everyone.

  On 15/01/2013 at 02:54, longsuffering said:

Presume you are talking about old Boards.

All the boards, figure it out your longsuffering.

  On 15/01/2013 at 02:44, Fan said:

What's my agenda?

that is exactly what i and many on here are waiting to find out.

And have been for a long time.

Don't go around in circles and call people names.

Put up.

Ahh.. All starting to get rather funny as it gets a little closer to time.

My God the seemingly blind faith in DM and CS beggars belief.

There is a search function people, use it if you want fans reasoning. This thread is reminding me of the Age and their current vendetta.

For the record, I have little to no faith in Schwab, I like Don but find him a bit too invisible for me. I'd be surprised if we couldn't do better, but right now, I'd support him/them without hesitation and would not consider listing my reservations in this thread or at this time!

It's the constant focus on Fans reservations, that is directing the thread to CS and DM

Edited for spelling and due to deluded point, so changed from him to them.

  On 15/01/2013 at 02:51, Bossdog said:

I don't know why everyone has the thought that 'Fan' is wanting to run for the board.....He has differing opinions and that is what this site is about, isn't it????

I might be dumb but if a member doesn't like the current board, he has the right to question and run against it I would have thought....Just saying....

No one is questioning his right to question but if he has come to that conclusion then there must be reasons. Isn't it reasonable then if you openly state your opinion that most logical members here would expect some back up as to how you came to that conclusion. As I stated that if it is personal then it should not be aired here.

  On 15/01/2013 at 02:47, Fan said:

You're entitled to your view and you can continue to belittle and insult me but to date you've not put forward one piece of evidence to support you're view that I want a spot on the Board or that I have "targetted" Chris Connolly.

You're starting to look a little silly.

You cry wolf a lot fan you must have the hide of a butterfly, if anyone disagrees with you, you take it as an insult and start crying, man up for goodness sake and tell your buddies to do the same.

God knows why you'd want to run for the board, that's if you did, you'd be I tears after every meeting.

  On 15/01/2013 at 02:57, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

My God the seemingly blind faith in DM and CS beggars belief.

Their is a search function people, use it if you want fans reasoning. This thread is reminding me of the Age and their current vendetta.

For the record, I have little to know faith in Schwab, I like Don but find him a bit too invisible for me. I'd be surprised if we couldn't do better, but right now, I'd support him without hesitation and would not consider listing my reservations in this thread or at this time!

It's the constant focus on Fans reservations, that is directing the thread th CS and DM

IN all fairness to Don he didnt apply for the job.

  On 15/01/2013 at 02:51, mjt said:

The clubs never been stable, look how the Hawks pushed on after 96, you never see the Dogs or Saints go through this [censored], everytime theres a new President the old one seems to get the ass, nobody ever stands down, there just a bunch of big head snobs that dont give a flying crap about how it affects the supporters.

You are showing your ignoance....Hawthorn had a lot of politital in fighting after 96.....The bulldogs had stand up fights and board challengers......The saints had the Thomas/and the then president(Can't think of his name) debarcle.......Big headed snobs????For the first time in my memory, the club is solvent,has assests, posted a small profit(and after the year we just had) It's a miricle.....I can't remember when last we had a challege for the board????....Can you enlighten me????

  On 15/01/2013 at 02:59, mjt said:

IN all fairness to Don he didnt apply for the job.

And he will always have my appreciation and respect for what he has done.

  On 15/01/2013 at 02:59, Bossdog said:

You are showing your ignoance....Hawthorn had a lot of politital in fighting after 96.....The bulldogs had stand up fights and board challengers......The saints had the Thomas/and the then president(Can't think of his name) debarcle.......Big headed snobs????For the first time in my memory, the club is solvent,has assests, posted a small profit(and after the year we just had) It's a miricle.....I can't remember when last we had a challege for the board????....Can you enlighten me????

If you cant remember the last time any board had a challenge your not worthy of another reply, no offence intended.

  On 15/01/2013 at 02:57, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

My God the seemingly blind faith in DM and CS beggars belief.

There is a search function people, use it if you want fans reasoning. This thread is reminding me of the Age and their current vendetta.

For the record, I have little to know faith in Schwab, I like Don but find him a bit too invisible for me. I'd be surprised if we couldn't do better, but right now, I'd support him without hesitation and would not consider listing my reservations in this thread or at this time!

It's the constant focus on Fans reservations, that is directing the thread th CS and DM

most presidents are invisible rgrs with the exception of few limelight-hoggers like eddie and jeff, who have other reasons for wanting visibility

give me a run down by club of public statements by other presidents for comparison purposes

boards and their members are normally seen little and heard less

  On 15/01/2013 at 02:47, Fan said:

You're entitled to your view and you can continue to belittle and insult me but to date you've not put forward one piece of evidence to support you're view that I want a spot on the Board or that I have "targetted" Chris Connolly.

You're starting to look a little silly.

Well call me 'silly', Billy, ouch, but what is it you & yours hide?

are you looking to challenge, or is it a part of the ruse of the clubs defense?

Because your 'not elaborating' just confuses the whole picture.

* I'll ask again a simple question, have you had any discussion with any of the MFC's defense team, about the AFL's 800 page document, & their strategies to fight it?

  On 15/01/2013 at 03:02, mjt said:

If you cant remember the last time any board had a challenge your not worthy of another reply, no offence intended.

That went to a members vote????...No offence taken....

The unworthy one.....

  On 15/01/2013 at 02:51, mjt said:

The clubs never been stable, look how the Hawks pushed on after 96, you never see the Dogs or Saints go through this [censored], everytime theres a new President the old one seems to get the ass, nobody ever stands down, there just a bunch of big head snobs that dont give a flying crap about how it affects the supporters.

well then explain!!!

If you want the trust earn it...

say what it is you guys plan.

  On 15/01/2013 at 03:06, dee-luded said:

well then explain!!!

If you want the trust earn it...

say what it is you guys plan.

What plan?

Im sick to death of this whole saga. I read these articles from the age and feel absolutley no emotion.

Jaded chose a good user name.....

  On 15/01/2013 at 02:59, Bossdog said:

You are showing your ignoance....Hawthorn had a lot of politital in fighting after 96.....The bulldogs had stand up fights and board challengers......The saints had the Thomas/and the then president(Can't think of his name) debarcle.......Big headed snobs????For the first time in my memory, the club is solvent,has assests, posted a small profit(and after the year we just had) It's a miricle.....I can't remember when last we had a challege for the board????....Can you enlighten me????

Butterss.

And don't forget Smorgan has been pushed.

  On 15/01/2013 at 03:04, daisycutter said:

most presidents are invisible rgrs with the exception of few limelight-hoggers like eddie and jeff, who have other reasons for wanting visibility

give me a run down by club of public statements by other presidents for comparison purposes

boards and their members are normally seen little and heard less

Get it yourself.

The magical word in there is normally. Have a look up the meaning of the word normal and you might understand why I wish there was some more direct leadership from the president over the last 6 months.

  On 15/01/2013 at 02:57, Rod Grinter Riot Squad said:

My God the seemingly blind faith in DM and CS beggars belief.

There is a search function people, use it if you want fans reasoning. This thread is reminding me of the Age and their current vendetta.

For the record, I have little to know faith in Schwab, I like Don but find him a bit too invisible for me. I'd be surprised if we couldn't do better, but right now, I'd support him without hesitation and would not consider listing my reservations in this thread or at this time!

It's the constant focus on Fans reservations, that is directing the thread th CS and DM

If the club,,, or a part of the club wants scwabby out, then hanging him in public & destroying his career isn't the Aussie way. or never used to be.

If he's been that bad,,, we should do it without making a handover to the AFL of his head on a platter. he's not a sacrificial goat.

If that is what our defence is structured around they're will be more trouble ahead.

  On 15/01/2013 at 03:09, GM11 said:

Butterss.

And don't forget Smorgan has been pushed.

Would they come back and leak information to the AFL if there clubs were under serious investigation?

  On 15/01/2013 at 03:09, GM11 said:

Butterss.

And don't forget Smorgan has been pushed.

john Elliott ring a bell??

  dee-luded said:

he's not a sacrificial goat.

I hope you're right there. I find goat tends to be more salty than lamb.

  On 15/01/2013 at 03:18, iv said:

I hope you're right there. I find goat tends to be more salty than lamb.

i had goat soup in the philippines last year. Interesting taste it was!

  On 15/01/2013 at 03:11, mjt said:

Would they come back and leak information to the AFL if there clubs were under serious investigation?

Not sure of your meaning.

Anyway let's revisit this -

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/date-with-disaster-20120504-1y4ky.html?skin=text-only

Here is an earlier example of the depth of information CW has at her finger tips.

This could only come from within the club.

One sentence I find very telling -

"On Friday, Schwab was told his position was no longer secure and that Stynes and some board members were looking at ending his tenure at the end of the season. The contract deadline was 48 hours away. Key Melbourne coterie supporters believed by Friday night that Schwab was finished. So did some Melbourne footballers."

This tells me all I need to know.