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Brent Moloney Departing MFC

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  On 31/08/2012 at 10:31, dazzledavey36 said:

why are people surprised that he is leaving? got told to trim down over the summer to suit the game plan and didn't. so first he didn't want to listern to the coach and then now he faces the consequence and without a club. serves him right with his [censored] ass attitude for not listerning and losing his [censored] over being dumped from the leadership group. we do not need players like that at our footy club, move him on! nothing but a spoilt brat! theres a reason why he got demoted from the leadership group, and if simon black or a jonathon brown say the way he carried on there would have given him a smack on the chop!

What is wrong with the Neeld lovers on demonland!

We have a proven good player over several years - one year with Neeld and there are problems.

Net effect MFC loses a good player - good players don't just lose their talent overnight, but they can become disenchanted.

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      On 31/08/2012 at 10:36, waikikkamukau said:

    Pretty sure that because he is a free agent we will get nothing!

    I think we would get a pick but it would not be of equal value. Something like an end of second round or third round pick from the afl

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      On 31/08/2012 at 10:50, Hardnut said:

    What is wrong with the Neeld lovers on demonland!

    We have a proven good player over several years - one year with Neeld and there are problems.

    Net effect MFC loses a good player - good players don't just lose their talent overnight, but they can become disenchanted.

    He just clearly explained the problems between Moloney and Neeld.

    Net effect is that we get rid of a well paid senior player that refused to lead when we desperately needed leadership.

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    It'd be sad to see him go, but it'd be sadder for him to languish at Casey. I'd be quite happy to see him go to Sydney, I reckon they'd be a good fit for him and give him a crack at finals footy.

    Clearly Neeld's style hasn't been embrace by Beamer, and as sad as that is (especially since I expected him to thrive) I'm not surprised that we have lost one player that in the past has been in our best. I hope people aren't angry with Brent, or Neeld for that matter, these things happen, it's a changing landscape and I hope he will always feel like Melbourne is his home.

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      On 31/08/2012 at 10:00, Fat Tony said:

    Hopefully he gets a great offer and we get a decent pick.

    Because he's a restricted free agent and we've got a heap of salary cap space we should match whatever his best offer is and then trade him to the club of his choice instead.

    We'll get more for him this way then we would through compensation as he'll have a shocking B&F return this year.

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    Neeld was reported as stating on Wednesday that "Moloney" was struggling with the changing game, basically the current tactics dont suit his existing style and he hasn't been able to adjust. I'm sure inside the club they have given him direction, but if he failing to follow it then he has no place. For example if it is true we was told to trim down and didn't that would show a disregard to the new direction of the club. He plays for the club, not the other way around.

    Its unfortunate if true (about all the above) but nothing is final yet till announced and done. As for a desintation i expect he would be chasing a top 8 club being nearer the end of his career than the beginnig.

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      On 31/08/2012 at 10:58, Tall Defence said:

    Because he's a restricted free agent and we've got a heap of salary cap space we should match whatever his best offer is and then trade him to the club of his choice instead.

    We'll get more for him this way then we would through compensation as he'll have a shocking B&F return this year.

    We don't want players that don't want to be here, he'd play the year with a chip on his shoulder and we'd gain nothing. Unless your suggesting we sign him then trade him this year, which clubs aren't allowed to do.

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      On 31/08/2012 at 11:02, Darkhorse72 said:

    Neeld was reported as stating on Wednesday that "Moloney" was struggling with the changing game, basically the current tactics dont suit his existing style and he hasn't been able to adjust. I'm sure inside the club they have given him direction, but if he failing to follow it then he has no place. For example if it is true we was told to trim down and didn't that would show a disregard to the new direction of the club. He plays for the club, not the other way around.

    Its unfortunate if true (about all the above) but nothing is final yet till announced and done. As for a desintation i expect he would be chasing a top 8 club being nearer the end of his career than the beginnig.

    So yet another player has been unable to adjust to the Neeld plan....!

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      On 31/08/2012 at 11:04, Pates said:

    We don't want players that don't want to be here, he'd play the year with a chip on his shoulder and we'd gain nothing. Unless your suggesting we sign him then trade him this year, which clubs aren't allowed to do.

    http://www.afl.com.a...20/default.aspx

    This passage is the relevant one re: Moloney

    A player has served eight or more seasons of AFL football at one club, is one of the top 25 per cent highest-paid players at his club, and is now out of contract for the first time since reaching eight seasons of service. (restricted free agent)

    The player is eligible to field offers from all rival AFL clubs.

    If he wishes to change clubs, the player must decide on the best offer of his choice from one rival club.

    His club has the right to match the presented offer.

    If the club matches the offer, he may choose to remain with his original club, seek a trade or enter the Draft.

    If the club does not or can not match the offer, the player can move to the new club of his choice.

    His original club will receive a compensation pick for the loss of the player, on an AFL-determined formula to apply where clubs lose more free agents than they gain in any single transfer period.

    If we match the offer then we can trade him and it's what we should do. 

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    I wish Brent all the best if he leaves and thanks for his efforts.

    What I am disappointed in, is that we allegedly have a player that 6 clubs are interested in and it doesn't appear that we will be able to trade him and get a good return. Instead we will be given a compo pick and I can predict now, it will be a poor one, far less than one we might have got for trading him or the value of a player we might have got.

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    But does that mean we have to match the offer in order to get a compensation pick?

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      On 31/08/2012 at 10:50, Hardnut said:

    What is wrong with the Neeld lovers on demonland!

    We have a proven good player over several years - one year with Neeld and there are problems.

    Net effect MFC loses a good player - good players don't just lose their talent overnight, but they can become disenchanted.

    Haters gonna hate.

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    Viney and the other mids we get this year won't have an impact for 2-3 years.

    We're giving away a ready made, big bodied clearance mid because we have 18 year olds on the way-sounds like Junior all over again,Scully gone,JT not firing!!!

    This will come back and bite Neeld on the Ar$e,unless the plan is to spend Green's & Moloney's salary on a big fish in Free Agency.

    Hmmm,who could it be?

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    We get a compensation pick if he leaves without us matching the offer and we don't pick up any free agents ourselves.

    If we match the offer then we can trade him and get a better return on him.

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    Ok. So what are we going to get.

    End of third round pick?

    He is 28 years old and came off a best and fairest last year. Could we wangle a end of 2nd round pick?

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      On 31/08/2012 at 11:20, Tall Defence said:

    We get a compensation pick if he leaves without us matching the offer and we don't pick up any free agents ourselves.

    If we match the offer then we can trade him and get a better return on him.

    In that case, we should be playing our cards a little closer to our chest. Match the offer...and force someone to cough up a half decent pick.

    If there are six clubs interested as rumoured, we should be trying to get an early second round pick at the 'very' least (25-30).

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      On 31/08/2012 at 11:24, King Cuthbertson said:

    In that case, we should be playing our cards a little closer to our chest. Match the offer...and force someone to cough up a half decent pick.

    If there are six clubs interested as rumoured, we should be trying to get an early second round pick at the 'very' least (25-30).

    Great minds think a like King C.

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      On 31/08/2012 at 11:26, Tall Defence said:

    Great minds think a like King C.

    Yeah sorry, I just read where you said 'exactly' the same thing in an earlier post..

    Be better if I actually read things before speaking my mind :)

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    An interesting point you make King C.

    Even more interesting is your posts per day since joining - 101 in 7 days - you might have a record there!

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      On 31/08/2012 at 11:31, Hardnut said:

    An interesting point you make King C.

    Even more interesting is your posts per day since joining - 101 in 7 days - you might have a record there!

    Good lord I need to get out more :)

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      On 31/08/2012 at 11:13, Tall Defence said:
    If we match the offer then we can trade him and it's what we should do.

    You might be missing something. Think you need to think about it 1 or 2 levels deeper.

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      On 31/08/2012 at 11:24, King Cuthbertson said:

    In that case, we should be playing our cards a little closer to our chest. Match the offer...and force someone to cough up a half decent pick.

    If there are six clubs interested as rumoured, we should be trying to get an early second round pick at the 'very' least (25-30).

    Suggest you also should think about it a few levels deeper.

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    I like Moloney...but he hasn't performed this year. Bring in a midfielder with a bit of pace and diversity....i'm sick of of our 3rd world one paced midfield.

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