Im almost waiting for the inevitable poll:

Did CS deserve another contract, should it have been for 3 years.....yadda yadda yadda

is it that hard for some to simply say...Well done mate, keep it up.

  On 27/08/2012 at 10:25, cowboy_from_hell said:

I just want a flag so we can hold a press conference and Scwhab is there with Watts,Morton,Neeld and any other whipping boy and they all step up to the microphone, clear their throats and begin and end the press conference with F you herald sun and F you Brock Mclean and F you Energy watch and F you Wojo (still haven't forgotten) and so on.

Chances are most of them will be giving it an F U Demonland as well!

Would be interesting to see if the Argus Report was at least looked at. I doubt it though. Will read with interest what Caro has to say about the issue. Not being involved with the inner sanctum makes it hard to do comment but he clearly polarizes opinion. Being apart of the boys club helped him big time though

Well, he must be doing something right.

It sounds like most material matters of our financial statements could be looking promising - heres hoping anyway.

Don't be to harsh people, if it wasn't for Cam our players wouldn't be able to wear school blazers to our functions.

  On 27/08/2012 at 12:14, Supermercado said:

Chances are most of them will be giving it an F U Demonland as well!

I cannot wait for the day.

With the cup in there hand I will be happy with whatever they say.

  On 27/08/2012 at 12:21, J-Riv said:

Don't be to harsh people, if it wasn't for Cam our players wouldn't be able to wear school blazers to our functions.

Oh yes statement of the day J-Riv

  On 27/08/2012 at 12:23, old dee said:

Oh yes statement of the day J-Riv

  On 27/08/2012 at 12:14, Supermercado said:

Chances are most of them will be giving it an F U Demonland as well!

By the time we are winning more then we are losing and then win a flag I would Imagine the thread titles will be along the lines of " I told you Watts is better then Nic Nat" and "Faith in Morton has won us a flag" and comments will all be surrounded by Demonland demanding a 10 year contract for Neeld. No one will admit being wrong but rightfully so no one will care because we have the flag.

The thing that the Melbourne Football Club needs the most is unity and consistency at the top and the Board has decided to offer Cameron Schwab an extra three year contract.

This constitutes a fairly strong endorsement of a man who, as CEO, presided over a club whose financial position has improved from being in debt to the tune of $5m to a point where we are in a positive asset situation in excess of $6m.

I've never quite known why the angst about Cameron Schwab. His critics speak in whispered tones of his interference in football matters leading to the disasters of late July 2011. I still don't know if, in the end, he deserves to be damned or praised if this is in fact the truth.

We have a CEO who by all accounts is well respected by those high up at AFL and club level and on that basis, congratulations go all round on the appointment.

To those who don't like it, get over it - it's time to move on.

  On 27/08/2012 at 10:10, cowboy_from_hell said:

Is this where I am supposed to pretend I know if he is doing a good job or not? I have no idea and I imagine a lot of supporters don't know. So good on you CS I think?

That's about where I am at. We have money and I we can't really blame him for the on field stuff so I guess it's a good thing.

  On 27/08/2012 at 13:01, Whispering_Jack said:

The thing that the Melbourne Football Club needs the most is unity and consistency at the top and the Board has decided to offer Cameron Schwab an extra three year contract.

This constitutes a fairly strong endorsement of a man who, as CEO, presided over a club whose financial position has improved from being in debt to the tune of $5m to a point where we are in a positive asset situation in excess of $6m.

I've never quite known why the angst about Cameron Schwab. His critics speak in whispered tones of his interference in football matters leading to the disasters of late July 2011. I still don't know if, in the end, he deserves to be damned or praised if this is in fact the truth.

We have a CEO who by all accounts is well respected by those high up at AFL and club level and on that basis, congratulations go all round on the appointment.

To those who don't like it, get over it - it's time to move on.

Stating that someone is "by all accounts is well respected by those high up at AFL and club level" is not a compelling argument.

Neither is telling people to "get over it" and "move on".

You always refer to people who disagree with you on this subject in fanciful ways. Restless ghouls rattling chains, dark acolytes whispering and so on. I'd like to know who exactly you are referring to when you make these kinds of comments because I am simply a flesh and blood supporter who never drank the Kool-Aid.

The most desperate need of the Melbourne Football Club is not consistency at the top - it is accountability. Something that has been sorely lacking around the place for the last few years.

Ans as for Schwab's financial performance, the three biggest determining factors in our asset turnaround have almost nothing to do with Schwab:

1. Donations (thank the supporters)

2. Bentleigh Club (thank the previous two Boards)

3. Changes to TV rights/stadium deals (dumb luck/thank the AFL)

And while I'm at it, don't give me any of that new facilities rubbish either because he didn't have to lift a finger for any of it.

The two financial areas that Schwab has had control over are:

1. Sponsorship (has been an absolute train wreck)

2. Operations (has doubled the non-football staff for no benefit, still rattling the tin and hasn't got a sustainable business model despite the points listed above)

And then there are the non-financial things like leadership, corporate culture/structuring, corporate relations, media/PR, just to name a few. Schwab gets a fail on every one of these measures.

As for the idea that Schwab breeds unity, first of all that is not always a good thing (e.g. boys club), secondly, it is a laughable proposition. Schwab is a poster boy for divisiveness.

Cameron's legacy will be as follows:

- Bloated off-field department

- Unsustainable business model

- Waste

- Stupid logo

- Stupid blazers

- Poisonous culture

and last but not least

- A big pay out that the club can ill afford because he has convinced his mates to give him a three year deal

I guess Schwab has finally worked out what you have not - he simply isn't up to it.

I don't get why we gives job assurance for a guy that cause problems in the club, but don't want to give the same chance for coaches.

  On 27/08/2012 at 13:59, Hazyshadeofgrinter said:

.......

- A big pay out that the club can ill afford because he has convinced his mates to give him a three year deal

I guess Schwab has finally worked out what you have not - he simply isn't up to it.

Don't hold back....tell us what you really think.

  On 27/08/2012 at 13:59, Hazyshadeofgrinter said:

Stating that someone is "by all accounts is well respected by those high up at AFL and club level" is not a compelling argument.

Neither is telling people to "get over it" and "move on".

You always refer to people who disagree with you on this subject in fanciful ways. Restless ghouls rattling chains, dark acolytes whispering and so on. I'd like to know who exactly you are referring to when you make these kinds of comments because I am simply a flesh and blood supporter who never drank the Kool-Aid.

The most desperate need of the Melbourne Football Club is not consistency at the top - it is accountability. Something that has been sorely lacking around the place for the last few years.

Ans as for Schwab's financial performance, the three biggest determining factors in our asset turnaround have almost nothing to do with Schwab:

1. Donations (thank the supporters)

2. Bentleigh Club (thank the previous two Boards)

3. Changes to TV rights/stadium deals (dumb luck/thank the AFL)

And while I'm at it, don't give me any of that new facilities rubbish either because he didn't have to lift a finger for any of it.

The two financial areas that Schwab has had control over are:

1. Sponsorship (has been an absolute train wreck)

2. Operations (has doubled the non-football staff for no benefit, still rattling the tin and hasn't got a sustainable business model despite the points listed above)

And then there are the non-financial things like leadership, corporate culture/structuring, corporate relations, media/PR, just to name a few. Schwab gets a fail on every one of these measures.

As for the idea that Schwab breeds unity, first of all that is not always a good thing (e.g. boys club), secondly, it is a laughable proposition. Schwab is a poster boy for divisiveness.

Cameron's legacy will be as follows:

- Bloated off-field department

- Unsustainable business model

- Waste

- Stupid logo

- Stupid blazers

- Poisonous culture

and last but not least

- A big pay out that the club can ill afford because he has convinced his mates to give him a three year deal

I guess Schwab has finally worked out what you have not - he simply isn't up to it.

Lol... He shot JFK too...

Why don't you read the article mate, pretty sure Don McLardy has more of a clue about what happens inside the club than you.

  On 27/08/2012 at 14:15, stuie said:

Lol... He shot JFK too...

Why don't you read the article mate, pretty sure Don McLardy has more of a clue about what happens inside the club than you.

I read it mate, it's the same bulldust that gets uncritically parroted on this website day in day out by desperate people who live in hope and don't know any better.

Here's a radical idea, if I am so far off the mark, why don't you just address the substance of my post?

Alternatively, if you're going to be content with glib one-liners then I'll just state that I'm pretty sure that Don McLardy doesn't know his arse from his elbow and leave it at that.

Whether CS lucked out or the improvement in our financial position was due to his financial acumen, he's been in the job during the time we've been turned from a financial basket case into a viable entity. We're no longer on the nose with the AFL admin either.

WJ's right. The club doesn't need the snipers. Time to move on.

  On 27/08/2012 at 14:29, Hazyshadeofgrinter said:

I read it mate, it's the same bulldust that gets uncritically parroted on this website day in day out by desperate people who live in hope and don't know any better.

Here's a radical idea, if I am so far off the mark, why don't you just address the substance of my post?

Alternatively, if you're going to be content with glib one-liners then I'll just state that I'm pretty sure that Don McLardy doesn't know his arse from his elbow and leave it at that.

If you're post had substance I would address it.

And you just back up your stupidity with your McLardy remarks.

  On 27/08/2012 at 14:37, Freddy Fuschia said:

Whether CS lucked out or the improvement in our financial position was due to his financial acumen, he's been in the job during the time we've been turned from a financial basket case into a viable entity. We're no longer on the nose with the AFL admin either.

WJ's right. The club doesn't need the snipers. Time to move on.

Actually, what the club really needs are supporters with enough brains to hold the Club's administration to account - because we know that both Schwab and the Board are unable to do this for themselves or each other.

The club doesn't need cheerleaders. Time to take the blinkers off.

  On 27/08/2012 at 14:41, stuie said:

If you're post had substance I would address it.

And you just back up your stupidity with your McLardy remarks.

no, you are

  On 27/08/2012 at 14:46, Hazyshadeofgrinter said:

no, you are

Lol... Back under your bridge pal...

  On 27/08/2012 at 14:47, stuie said:

Lol... Back under your bridge or working with Ipec pal...

  On 27/08/2012 at 14:46, Hazyshadeofgrinter said:

no, you are

  On 27/08/2012 at 14:29, Hazyshadeofgrinter said:

Here's a radical idea, if I am so far off the mark, why don't you just address the substance of my post?

You're so far off the mark, there is no substance in your post.

Fantasyland.

Hazy,

You missed the point. Nothing I wrote detracts from the fact that club officials need to be accountable and that's a given.

The fact is that despite heavy scrutiny and a strong campaign by his detractors in both the media and among some who call themselves supporters of the club, Cam has the support of the Board and apparently the endorsement of the AFL and accordingly, has been appointed as CEO for the next three years.

He now needs to be allowed to do his job if we're going to succeed at our core business which is to ultimately produce a successful football team.

My point is that we need a unified club and strong leadership at the top to move forward and make that happen.

Yes, Good luck to him, these roles are thin on the ground....but so long as he plays his role and leaves the half-time coaching to those appointed.