Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted

With Boak seemingly off the table, does anyone else think we should make Caddy a priority?

I'm a big fan. A hard, tough, skillful mid who can kick goals. Has an apprenticeship working with Bluey McKenna and Gary Jnr under his belt and should be primed as he enters his third season of footy.

I reckon we should go hard at him and trump whatever the Bomber and other clubs can offer the Suns (bar our picks 3 and 4 of course).

3,4, Caddy, Viney ... Now THAT would be a game-changing draft result for the MFC.

art-svCADDY-420x0.jpg

  • Like 4

Posted

Don't understand the Caddy-love, hasn't done anything of note except a couple of decent games, and in my opinion he is not worth pick 12/13 by a long shot. The fact that he was pick 7 (or whatever) doesn't justify trading a high pick for him, and it looks like there are plenty of mids in this draft to meet our needs, we just have to nail the picks.

Posted

With Boak seemingly off the table, does anyone else think we should make Caddy a priority?

I'm a big fan. A hard, tough, skillful mid who can kick goals. Has an apprenticeship working with Bluey McKenna and Gary Jnr under his belt and should be primed as he enters his third season of footy.

I reckon we should go hard at him and trump whatever the Bomber and other clubs can offer the Suns (bar our picks 3 and 4 of course).

3,4, Caddy, Viney ... Now THAT would be a game-changing draft result for the MFC.

art-svCADDY-420x0.jpg

He is the type of player we need. Young and a proven talent who is on the improve. Suns won't let him go cheaply if we can entice the suns with some picks and some players we might go ok. It's trading our players that is the problem though. Who would want them? Maybe we could tell Gold Coast and any other team that the players we want to trade are really good but it's Neeld's fault they haven't produced this year or any other.

Posted

With Boak seemingly off the table, does anyone else think we should make Caddy a priority?

I'm a big fan. A hard, tough, skillful mid who can kick goals. Has an apprenticeship working with Bluey McKenna and Gary Jnr under his belt and should be primed as he enters his third season of footy.

I reckon we should go hard at him and trump whatever the Bomber and other clubs can offer the Suns (bar our picks 3 and 4 of course).

3,4, Caddy, Viney ... Now THAT would be a game-changing draft result for the MFC.

art-svCADDY-420x0.jpg

Boak off the table???

I hope we make a play for both of them! Boak, & Caddy.


Posted

I'm a big fan. A hard, tough, skillful mid who can kick goals.

That sounds like a description of Trengove. Trengove is unquestionably having a poor year, but did you know that his worst year, this year, shades Caddy's ?

http://www.finalsiren.com/PlayerCompare.asp?SeasonID=2012&PlayerName1=&PlayerName2=Jack+Trengove&ExactMatch2=true&PlayerName3=&PlayerName4=&Compare=Add+to+Comparison&SelectedPlayers=2189%2C

I like Caddy too, but I do think we become a little too intoxicated with opposition players at this time of year. In a bad year Trengove is averaging more disposals, more mark and more tackles. Trengove's first two years absolutely cream Caddy's 2012.

I have no doubt that we'll see a very different Trengove next year. Anyway, I quite like Caddy, but I wouldn't know what he's worth and I'm not desperate for him.

  • Like 1

Posted (edited)

That sounds like a description of Trengove. Trengove is unquestionably having a poor year, but did you know that his worst year, this year, shades Caddy's ?

http://www.finalsire...edPlayers=2189,

I like Caddy too, but I do think we become a little too intoxicated with opposition players at this time of year. In a bad year Trengove is averaging more disposals, more mark and more tackles. Trengove's first two years absolutely cream Caddy's 2012.

I have no doubt that we'll see a very different Trengove next year. Anyway, I quite like Caddy, but I wouldn't know what he's worth and I'm not desperate for him.

My thoughts on Caddy are that if Neeld can't settle on a quality mature mid (or more importantly convince one to come to us), then the next best alternative will be to go for one of these young guns that the Suns have incubated. Caddy's trajectory as a top 10 draft pick seems to be on track and if he comes to us he'd be going in to 2103 with three full pre-seasons under his belt, ready to make an immediate impact. Don't forget that he has played some decent footy in a side that has been smashed even worse than us over the past two years.

For mine a player like him would be the direct replacement for Scully, with our second compensation pick (no.4) being reward for the hell we were put through over that whole affair.

I hope we see a refreshed Trengove next year, too. I'm putting his 2012 down to learning how to play a defensive style of game that will make him a more multi-dimensional player moving forward.

Edited by Range Rover
Posted

My thoughts on Caddy are that if Neeld can't settle on a quality mature mid (or more importantly convince one to come to us), then the next best alternative will be to go for one of these young guns that the Suns have incubated. Caddy's trajectory as a top 10 draft pick seems to be on track and if he comes to us he'd be going in to 2103 with three full pre-seasons under his belt, ready to make an immediate impact. Don't forget that he has played some decent footy in a side that has been smashed even worse than us over the past two years.

For mine a player like him would be the direct replacement for Scully, with our second compensation pick (no.4) being reward for the hell we were put through over that whole affair.

I hope we see a refreshed Trengove next year, too. I'm putting his 2012 down to learning how to play a defensive style of game that will make him a more multi-dimensional player moving forward.

I know why you want him.

Did you know that Caddy's 2012 wasn't as good as Trengove's shocking 2012 ?

Posted (edited)

I know why you want him.

Did you know that Caddy's 2012 wasn't as good as Trengove's shocking 2012 ?

That may be, but if you look at the actual trajectory of the two, Caddy is tracking nicely (2nd year) and Trengove (3rd year) has hit a ditch.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

Edited by Range Rover
Posted

Dont recon we will will get him cheap...because GC will just say fine if you want to play like that we will bid for Viney.

I disagree. Caddy wants to come back to Melbourne. If he puts himself in the draft GC get nothing for him. if he goes into the draft i doubt GWS would be keen to take him as he want to live in Victoria nad having a disgruntled young player is no good for them. We then would have the next 2 picks (assuming Viney goes in second round which i'm confident he will). I doubt we'd use them but doggies might use their number 5, another Vic club might have a crack or we get him with pick 12-13.

If he goes into the draft GC get nothing, zilch, nada (you get the idea). So it is in their best interest to do a deal with a Vic club and we are in a good position to deal. I assume Caddy will also want to help GC get the best deal possible and this is only possible if doesn't go into the draft.

As i've posted before i could see us getting him by giving GC our pick 12ish and say Petterd (a QLD boy who may actually improve in new surroundings- and GC need some mid 20's players) for Caddy and a quiet agreement from them to not nominate Viney.

Pick 12 and an ok player is alot better than nothing.

  • Like 1
Posted

That may be, but if you look at the actual trajectory of the two, Caddy is tracking nicely (2nd year) and Trengove (3rd year) has hit a ditch.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

You're not sure of my point ?

I just wanted to bring some perspective. Firstly, in my view Trengove is harshly treated by some, not withstanding an admittedly poor year, while another player is being touted as being preferable to Boak. But when you look at the facts Caddy's year is inferior to Trengove's.

As another poster pointed out Caddy has done very little to date and the fanfare outweighs his output. But that's what happens at this time of year. Players that have done next to nothing get overrated by opposition supporters.

Having said that, I like what I see when I watch him play for the reasons you mention.

  • Like 2

Posted

I'm all for a Mitch Clark style play at Caddy. Offering up something like $250K per season would not represent value of his current commodity but would be a calculated risk to ensure we get him with likelihood he'll develop into a 250K plus player.

  • Like 1
Posted

Worth a go at pick #12 if we get Viney second rounder. Get Cloke for huge $$'s (but no pick) and we are at least filling supporters with some hope (hopefully not the false kind).

  • Like 1
Posted

Worth a go at pick #12 if we get Viney second rounder. Get Cloke for huge $$'s (but no pick) and we are at least filling supporters with some hope (hopefully not the false kind).

If all that was to come to fruition we'd burst through 40,000 members before easter.

< Thinking to self, "shite, it's round 18 and just have a listen to me - what a muppet !"


Posted

If all that was to come to fruition we'd burst through 40,000 members before easter.

< Thinking to self, "shite, it's round 18 and just have a listen to me - what a muppet !"

I'm thinking the same thing though. It's a good marketing tool to have a good off season of signings. We just need to back it up with some wins to break 40,000.

Posted

My thoughts on Caddy are that if Neeld can't settle on a quality mature mid (or more importantly convince one to come to us), then the next best alternative will be to go for one of these young guns that the Suns have incubated. Caddy's trajectory as a top 10 draft pick seems to be on track and if he comes to us he'd be going in to 2103 with three full pre-seasons under his belt, ready to make an immediate impact. Don't forget that he has played some decent footy in a side that has been smashed even worse than us over the past two years.

For mine a player like him would be the direct replacement for Scully, with our second compensation pick (no.4) being reward for the hell we were put through over that whole affair.

I hope we see a refreshed Trengove next year, too. I'm putting his 2012 down to learning how to play a defensive style of game that will make him a more multi-dimensional player moving forward.

i know our track record with injuries is bad, but hopefully we can get him on the park before 2103!!!!! sorry, couldnt help myself.

  • Like 1

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

Wondering if Essendon would be prepared to part with their first round draft pick for Caddy ?

They're currently 8th with a tough run home. That's pick 11 and if they drop further it could be as low as pick 9 or even 8.

If we were interested in him our mid first round compo pick would be more favoured to be used I would think and it would comeback to a player in return. What would GC be after ? Probably the higher pick.

Posted

Bump.

Wondering if Essendon would be prepared to part with their first round draft pick for Caddy ?

They're currently 8th with a tough run home. That's pick 11 and if they drop further it could be as low as pick 9 or even 8.

If we were interested in him our mid first round compo pick would be more favoured to be used I would think and it would comeback to a player in return. What would GC be after ? Probably the higher pick.

Problem with this is that their first round pick will be reserved to take Daniher as F/S.

They are going to struggle to get Caddy (If he is available) unless they offload some decent players to secure the necessary picks.

Posted

Problem with this is that their first round pick will be reserved to take Daniher as F/S.

They are going to struggle to get Caddy (If he is available) unless they offload some decent players to secure the necessary picks.

Overlooked that....how did I do that...

Firms as a must have for mine at the Demons. Given the indecision of Boak staying at Port. But still, I have Caddy>Boak.

Posted

Essendon supporter mate reckons the best they could offer is Gumbleton and a 2nd round pick.

Having said that he doubts they'd let Gumbleton go.

Reckon we're in a good position with pick 13 and maybe Petterd.

Posted

Essendon supporter mate reckons the best they could offer is Gumbleton and a 2nd round pick.

Having said that he doubts they'd let Gumbleton go.

Reckon we're in a good position with pick 13 and maybe Petterd.

...and I doubt GC would take him with his injury history, they would want someone like Cremeri or Stanton and that's not going to happen. so we are in a good position if we want him.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    TRAINING: Wednesday 18th December 2024

    It was the final session of 2024 before the Christmas/New Years break and the Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force to bring you the following preseason training observations from Wednesday's session at Gosch's Paddock. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS TRAINING: Petracca, Oliver, Melksham, Woewodin, Langdon, Rivers, Billings, Sestan, Viney, Fullarton, Adams, Langford, Lever, Petty, Spargo, Fritsch, Bowey, Laurie, Kozzy, Mentha, George, May, Gawn, Turner Tholstrup, Kentfi

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 16th December 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers braved the sweltering heat to bring you their Preseason Training observations from Gosch's Paddock on Monday morning. SCOOP JUNIOR'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I went down today in what were pretty ordinary conditions - hot and windy. When I got there, they were doing repeat simulations of a stoppage on the wing and then moving the ball inside 50. There seemed to be an emphasis on handballing out of the stoppage, usually there were 3 or 4 handballs to

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 1

    TRAINING: Friday 13th December 2024

    With only a few sessions left before the Christmas break a number of Demonlander Trackwatchers headed down to Gosch's Paddock to bring you their observations from this morning's preseason training session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS PLAYERS IN ATTENDANCE: JVR, Salem, McVee, Petracca, Windsor, Viney, Lever, Spargo, Turner, Gawn, Tholstrup, Oliver, Billings, Langdon, Laurie, Bowey, Melksham, Langford, Lindsay, Jefferson, Howes, McAdam, Rivers, TMac, Adams, Hore, Verrall,

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Wednesday 11th December 2024

    A few new faces joined our veteran Demonland Trackwatchers on a beautiful morning out at Gosch's Paddock for another Preseason Training Session. BLWNBA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I arrived at around 1015 and the squad was already out on the track. The rehab group consisted of XL, McAdam, Melksham, Spargo and Sestan. Lever was also on restricted duties and appeared to be in runners.  The main group was doing end-to-end transition work in a simulated match situation. Ball mov

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 9th December 2024

    Once again Demonland Trackwatchers were in attendance at the first preseason training session for the week at Gosch's Paddock to bring you their observations. WAYNE WUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Looks like very close to 100% attendance. Kelani is back. Same group in rehab. REHAB: Spargo, Lever, Lindsay, Brown & McAdam. Haven’t laid eyes on Fritsch or AMW yet. Fritsch sighted. One unknown mature standing with Goody. Noticing Nathan Bassett much m

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Friday 6th December 2024

    Some veteran Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock to bring you the following observations from another Preseason Training Session. WAYNE WUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Rehab: Lever, Spargo, McAdam, Lindsay, Brown Sinnema is excellent by foot and has a decent vertical leap. Windsor is training with the Defenders. Windsor's run won't be lost playing off half back. In 19 games in 2024 he kicked 8 goals as a winger. I see him getting shots at g

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Wednesday 4th December 2024

    A couple of intrepid Demonland Trackwatchers headed down to Gosch's Paddock for the midweek Preseason Training Session to bring you the following observations. Demonland's own Whispering Jack was not in attendance but he kicked off proceedings with the following summary of all the Preseason Training action to date. We’re already a month into the MFC preseason (if you started counting when the younger players in the group began the campaign along with some of the more keen older heads)

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 2

    BEST OF THE REST by Meggs

    Meggs' Review of Melbourne's AFLW Season 9 ... Congratulations first off to the North Melbourne Kangaroos on winning the 2024 AFLW Premiership. Roos Coach Darren Crocker has assembled a team chock-full of competitive and highly skilful players who outclassed the Brisbane Lions in the Grand Final to remain undefeated throughout Season 9. A huge achievement in what was a dominant season by North. For Melbourne fans, the season was unfortunately one of frustration and disappointment

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    AFLW Melbourne Demons 3

    TRAINING: Monday 2nd December 2024

    There were many Demonland Trackwatchers braving the morning heat at Gosch's Paddock today to witness the players go through the annual 2km time trials. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Max, TMac & Melksham the first ones out on the track.  Runners are on. Guess they will be doing a lot of running.  TRAINING: Max, TMac, Melksham, Woey, Rivers, AMW, May, Sharp, Kolt, Adams, Sparrow, Jefferson, Billings, Petty, chandler, Howes, Lever, Kozzy, Mentha, Fullarton, Sal

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 1
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...