With Boak seemingly off the table, does anyone else think we should make Caddy a priority?

I'm a big fan. A hard, tough, skillful mid who can kick goals. Has an apprenticeship working with Bluey McKenna and Gary Jnr under his belt and should be primed as he enters his third season of footy.

I reckon we should go hard at him and trump whatever the Bomber and other clubs can offer the Suns (bar our picks 3 and 4 of course).

3,4, Caddy, Viney ... Now THAT would be a game-changing draft result for the MFC.

Don't understand the Caddy-love, hasn't done anything of note except a couple of decent games, and in my opinion he is not worth pick 12/13 by a long shot. The fact that he was pick 7 (or whatever) doesn't justify trading a high pick for him, and it looks like there are plenty of mids in this draft to meet our needs, we just have to nail the picks.

  On 24/07/2012 at 07:37, Range Rover said:

With Boak seemingly off the table, does anyone else think we should make Caddy a priority?

I'm a big fan. A hard, tough, skillful mid who can kick goals. Has an apprenticeship working with Bluey McKenna and Gary Jnr under his belt and should be primed as he enters his third season of footy.

I reckon we should go hard at him and trump whatever the Bomber and other clubs can offer the Suns (bar our picks 3 and 4 of course).

3,4, Caddy, Viney ... Now THAT would be a game-changing draft result for the MFC.

He is the type of player we need. Young and a proven talent who is on the improve. Suns won't let him go cheaply if we can entice the suns with some picks and some players we might go ok. It's trading our players that is the problem though. Who would want them? Maybe we could tell Gold Coast and any other team that the players we want to trade are really good but it's Neeld's fault they haven't produced this year or any other.

100% agree ... We had a crack last year but ran out of time to get the deal done. I hope we get him this year, he is a quality inside player.

  On 24/07/2012 at 07:37, Range Rover said:

With Boak seemingly off the table, does anyone else think we should make Caddy a priority?

I'm a big fan. A hard, tough, skillful mid who can kick goals. Has an apprenticeship working with Bluey McKenna and Gary Jnr under his belt and should be primed as he enters his third season of footy.

I reckon we should go hard at him and trump whatever the Bomber and other clubs can offer the Suns (bar our picks 3 and 4 of course).

3,4, Caddy, Viney ... Now THAT would be a game-changing draft result for the MFC.

Boak off the table???

I hope we make a play for both of them! Boak, & Caddy.

I thought he recently re-signed with GC? Two years, wasn't it. Why would he do that and then leave?

I was of the opinion of Caddy > Boak in terms of priority.

I'm a bigger fan...

  On 24/07/2012 at 12:08, Moonshadow said:

I thought he recently re-signed with GC? Two years, wasn't it. Why would he do that and then leave?

Yet to re-sign ... http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2012/07/18/caddy-firms-to-stay-on-gold-coast/

Dont recon we will will get him cheap...because GC will just say fine if you want to play like that we will bid for Viney.

  On 24/07/2012 at 07:37, Range Rover said:

I'm a big fan. A hard, tough, skillful mid who can kick goals.

That sounds like a description of Trengove. Trengove is unquestionably having a poor year, but did you know that his worst year, this year, shades Caddy's ?

http://www.finalsiren.com/PlayerCompare.asp?SeasonID=2012&PlayerName1=&PlayerName2=Jack+Trengove&ExactMatch2=true&PlayerName3=&PlayerName4=&Compare=Add+to+Comparison&SelectedPlayers=2189%2C

I like Caddy too, but I do think we become a little too intoxicated with opposition players at this time of year. In a bad year Trengove is averaging more disposals, more mark and more tackles. Trengove's first two years absolutely cream Caddy's 2012.

I have no doubt that we'll see a very different Trengove next year. Anyway, I quite like Caddy, but I wouldn't know what he's worth and I'm not desperate for him.

  On 25/07/2012 at 01:21, Ben-Hur said:

That sounds like a description of Trengove. Trengove is unquestionably having a poor year, but did you know that his worst year, this year, shades Caddy's ?

http://www.finalsire...edPlayers=2189,

I like Caddy too, but I do think we become a little too intoxicated with opposition players at this time of year. In a bad year Trengove is averaging more disposals, more mark and more tackles. Trengove's first two years absolutely cream Caddy's 2012.

I have no doubt that we'll see a very different Trengove next year. Anyway, I quite like Caddy, but I wouldn't know what he's worth and I'm not desperate for him.

My thoughts on Caddy are that if Neeld can't settle on a quality mature mid (or more importantly convince one to come to us), then the next best alternative will be to go for one of these young guns that the Suns have incubated. Caddy's trajectory as a top 10 draft pick seems to be on track and if he comes to us he'd be going in to 2103 with three full pre-seasons under his belt, ready to make an immediate impact. Don't forget that he has played some decent footy in a side that has been smashed even worse than us over the past two years.

For mine a player like him would be the direct replacement for Scully, with our second compensation pick (no.4) being reward for the hell we were put through over that whole affair.

I hope we see a refreshed Trengove next year, too. I'm putting his 2012 down to learning how to play a defensive style of game that will make him a more multi-dimensional player moving forward.

Edited July 25, 201212 yr by Range Rover

  On 25/07/2012 at 01:56, Range Rover said:

My thoughts on Caddy are that if Neeld can't settle on a quality mature mid (or more importantly convince one to come to us), then the next best alternative will be to go for one of these young guns that the Suns have incubated. Caddy's trajectory as a top 10 draft pick seems to be on track and if he comes to us he'd be going in to 2103 with three full pre-seasons under his belt, ready to make an immediate impact. Don't forget that he has played some decent footy in a side that has been smashed even worse than us over the past two years.

For mine a player like him would be the direct replacement for Scully, with our second compensation pick (no.4) being reward for the hell we were put through over that whole affair.

I hope we see a refreshed Trengove next year, too. I'm putting his 2012 down to learning how to play a defensive style of game that will make him a more multi-dimensional player moving forward.

I know why you want him.

Did you know that Caddy's 2012 wasn't as good as Trengove's shocking 2012 ?

  On 25/07/2012 at 02:02, Ben-Hur said:

I know why you want him.

Did you know that Caddy's 2012 wasn't as good as Trengove's shocking 2012 ?

That may be, but if you look at the actual trajectory of the two, Caddy is tracking nicely (2nd year) and Trengove (3rd year) has hit a ditch.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

Edited July 25, 201212 yr by Range Rover

  On 25/07/2012 at 01:13, s-t-i-n-g-a said:

Dont recon we will will get him cheap...because GC will just say fine if you want to play like that we will bid for Viney.

I disagree. Caddy wants to come back to Melbourne. If he puts himself in the draft GC get nothing for him. if he goes into the draft i doubt GWS would be keen to take him as he want to live in Victoria nad having a disgruntled young player is no good for them. We then would have the next 2 picks (assuming Viney goes in second round which i'm confident he will). I doubt we'd use them but doggies might use their number 5, another Vic club might have a crack or we get him with pick 12-13.

If he goes into the draft GC get nothing, zilch, nada (you get the idea). So it is in their best interest to do a deal with a Vic club and we are in a good position to deal. I assume Caddy will also want to help GC get the best deal possible and this is only possible if doesn't go into the draft.

As i've posted before i could see us getting him by giving GC our pick 12ish and say Petterd (a QLD boy who may actually improve in new surroundings- and GC need some mid 20's players) for Caddy and a quiet agreement from them to not nominate Viney.

Pick 12 and an ok player is alot better than nothing.

  On 25/07/2012 at 02:10, Range Rover said:

That may be, but if you look at the actual trajectory of the two, Caddy is tracking nicely (2nd year) and Trengove (3rd year) has hit a ditch.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

You're not sure of my point ?

I just wanted to bring some perspective. Firstly, in my view Trengove is harshly treated by some, not withstanding an admittedly poor year, while another player is being touted as being preferable to Boak. But when you look at the facts Caddy's year is inferior to Trengove's.

As another poster pointed out Caddy has done very little to date and the fanfare outweighs his output. But that's what happens at this time of year. Players that have done next to nothing get overrated by opposition supporters.

Having said that, I like what I see when I watch him play for the reasons you mention.

I'm all for a Mitch Clark style play at Caddy. Offering up something like $250K per season would not represent value of his current commodity but would be a calculated risk to ensure we get him with likelihood he'll develop into a 250K plus player.

Worth a go at pick #12 if we get Viney second rounder. Get Cloke for huge $$'s (but no pick) and we are at least filling supporters with some hope (hopefully not the false kind).

  On 25/07/2012 at 03:19, Born to Run said:

Worth a go at pick #12 if we get Viney second rounder. Get Cloke for huge $$'s (but no pick) and we are at least filling supporters with some hope (hopefully not the false kind).

If all that was to come to fruition we'd burst through 40,000 members before easter.

< Thinking to self, "shite, it's round 18 and just have a listen to me - what a muppet !"

  On 25/07/2012 at 04:00, H_T said:

If all that was to come to fruition we'd burst through 40,000 members before easter.

< Thinking to self, "shite, it's round 18 and just have a listen to me - what a muppet !"

I'm thinking the same thing though. It's a good marketing tool to have a good off season of signings. We just need to back it up with some wins to break 40,000.

  On 25/07/2012 at 01:56, Range Rover said:

My thoughts on Caddy are that if Neeld can't settle on a quality mature mid (or more importantly convince one to come to us), then the next best alternative will be to go for one of these young guns that the Suns have incubated. Caddy's trajectory as a top 10 draft pick seems to be on track and if he comes to us he'd be going in to 2103 with three full pre-seasons under his belt, ready to make an immediate impact. Don't forget that he has played some decent footy in a side that has been smashed even worse than us over the past two years.

For mine a player like him would be the direct replacement for Scully, with our second compensation pick (no.4) being reward for the hell we were put through over that whole affair.

I hope we see a refreshed Trengove next year, too. I'm putting his 2012 down to learning how to play a defensive style of game that will make him a more multi-dimensional player moving forward.

i know our track record with injuries is bad, but hopefully we can get him on the park before 2103!!!!! sorry, couldnt help myself.

Wondering if Essendon would be prepared to part with their first round draft pick for Caddy ?

They're currently 8th with a tough run home. That's pick 11 and if they drop further it could be as low as pick 9 or even 8.

If we were interested in him our mid first round compo pick would be more favoured to be used I would think and it would comeback to a player in return. What would GC be after ? Probably the higher pick.

  On 14/08/2012 at 03:51, H_T said:

Bump.

Wondering if Essendon would be prepared to part with their first round draft pick for Caddy ?

They're currently 8th with a tough run home. That's pick 11 and if they drop further it could be as low as pick 9 or even 8.

If we were interested in him our mid first round compo pick would be more favoured to be used I would think and it would comeback to a player in return. What would GC be after ? Probably the higher pick.

Problem with this is that their first round pick will be reserved to take Daniher as F/S.

They are going to struggle to get Caddy (If he is available) unless they offload some decent players to secure the necessary picks.

  On 14/08/2012 at 03:57, Oucher said:

Problem with this is that their first round pick will be reserved to take Daniher as F/S.

They are going to struggle to get Caddy (If he is available) unless they offload some decent players to secure the necessary picks.

Overlooked that....how did I do that...

Firms as a must have for mine at the Demons. Given the indecision of Boak staying at Port. But still, I have Caddy>Boak.

Essendon supporter mate reckons the best they could offer is Gumbleton and a 2nd round pick.

Having said that he doubts they'd let Gumbleton go.

Reckon we're in a good position with pick 13 and maybe Petterd.

  On 14/08/2012 at 08:00, Tall Defence said:

Essendon supporter mate reckons the best they could offer is Gumbleton and a 2nd round pick.

Having said that he doubts they'd let Gumbleton go.

Reckon we're in a good position with pick 13 and maybe Petterd.

...and I doubt GC would take him with his injury history, they would want someone like Cremeri or Stanton and that's not going to happen. so we are in a good position if we want him.