I've just watched this game and noticed the physicality of the game plan.....EVERY player lives for contact and if they don't go hard enough, they're stared down by their teammates.

The Dees have to dispel their bruise free footy tag and wake up.

We might not win any games this year, but please enjoy the contest and COMPETE.

I reminisced for a moment that I was watching the Dees under Northey....tough, uncompromising, no quarter asked, none given.

For all of you who say the game's moved on, no, not really. The need to compete is still there.

After watching that I'm heavily leaning towards North making the 8 this year ahead of the likes of Essendon and St Kilda. They may not just be making up the numbers either.

beat me to it in posting about them. there youngsters are very very impressive! love the way bastinac and zeibell go about there business. thye thrive on HARD contest.

Meanwhile the MFC sit in 17th spot under the Gold Coast.

The message is....Don't Tank, it is not worth it.

beat me to it in posting about them. there youngsters are very very impressive! love the way bastinac and zeibell go about there business. thye thrive on HARD contest.

Yeah compare their hard-nosed kids to Blease, Morton, Watts, Gysberts, Cook etc

I was this close to tipping the Kangas today against the Cats. I really rate them this year and my timidity cost me the 9 wins this round. But yes, I wish Melbourne had a lot of what North Melbourne has. A champion in Harvey, three great ruckmen who can actually kick a goal up forward and the good version of Aaron Davey in Daniel Wells. I could go on, but they were great today and deserved to win by more than they did.

Meanwhile the MFC sit in 17th spot under the Gold Coast.

The message is....Don't Tank, it is not worth it.

Tough message, WYL and very relevant. Having said that, their coach said 'The players needed to stand up - enough talk'

Btw, Scully played well today

Tough message, WYL and very relevant. Having said that, their coach said 'The players needed to stand up - enough talk'

Btw, Scully played well today

Tanking was something we are now paying for IMO. Our list doesn't work hard enough compared to our opponents. They still get the same pay.

I must add, it was interesting listening to Chris Conolly on the ABC tonight.

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beat me to it in posting about them. there youngsters are very very impressive! love the way bastinac and zeibell go about there business. thye thrive on HARD contest.

Well they've been recruiting mids for some years now, as they are well off in tall rucks & forwards. So they're ahead of us in the mids area of the list, atmo. But as they're Talls age, ours will over take theirs.

Well they've been recruiting mids for some years now, as they are well off in tall rucks & forwards. So they're ahead of us in the mids area of the list, atmo. But as they're Talls age, ours will over take theirs.

De-luded are you sure about that?

Tanking was something we are now paying for IMO. Our list doesn't work hard enough compared to our opponents. They still het the same pay.

Geez WYL! Will you stop for a second & think. We have been soft & uncompetitive for years, decades. When we are up top we still fall away.

Especially over the last 13 - 15 Years.

That wasn't tanking, but losing the ability to Feel you can be Winners,,, thats sould destroying, & this is whats happened at Melbourne off & on for decades.

Like the young side that gets Smashed in a Grand Final. This can have terrible negative effect on some players or clubs.

Melbourne has suffered from this at times in our history.

And could be happening, probably is, this decade gone.

When a side gets to this point, the leaders can sometimes learn to accept they're fate & become insular about their positions & protect one another, and just go through the motions. Boys club mentality.

Yeah compare their hard-nosed kids to Blease, Morton, Watts, Gysberts, Cook etc

Oh god I feel ill

De-luded are you sure about that?

Swallow (24), Anthony (24), Greenwood (23), Ziebell (21), Cunnington (20), Bastinac (20), Atley (19) + more. And they have the famed Shinbona culture. After such players as Archer, Carey, Stevens, et al.

Yeah compare their hard-nosed kids to Blease, Morton, Watts, Gysberts, Cook etc

Only disagree with Cook Dr. G

Only played a dozen or so games with Casey

The kid has not played a senior game yet.

But the MFc will probably turn him into our usual tough, hard at it player like the others you mention!

Geez WYL! Will you stop for a second & think. We have been soft & uncompetitive for years, decades. When we are up top we still fall away.

Especially over the last 13 - 15 Years.

That wasn't tanking, but losing the ability to Feel you can be Winners,,, thats sould destroying, & this is whats happened at Melbourne off & on for decades.

Like the young side that gets Smashed in a Grand Final. This can have terrible negative effect on some players or clubs.

Melbourne has suffered from this at times in our history.

And could be happening, probably is, this decade gone.

When a side gets to this point, the leaders can sometimes learn to accept they're fate & become insular about their positions & protect one another, and just go through the motions. Boys club mentality.

What are you trying to say??

Stop making excuses. The MFC do not deserve it.

You are the one saying our list WILL overtake that of north, as if it is a god given right.

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Swallow (24), Anthony (24), Greenwood (23), Ziebell (21), Cunnington (20), Bastinac (20), Atley (19) + more. And they have the famed Shinbona culture. After such players as Archer, Carey, Stevens, et al.

I think you missed what i was saying I mean't the following

" But as they're Talls age, ours will over take theirs"

Swallow (24), Anthony (24), Greenwood (23), Ziebell (21), Cunnington (20), Bastinac (20), Atley (19) + more. And they have the famed Shinbona culture. After such players as Archer, Carey, Stevens, et al.

Don't forget Kieran Harper - went to the same school as Blease, followed the same path (albeit didn't break his leg) yet his intensity is so.....feral.

We could be possibly 0-11 when you look at the next 8 games coming up!

Made me absolutely sick watching the Kangas play so well against one of the best in the business. Can't believe that all these sides are just overtaking us at will. This is soooo depressing. FML

We could be possibly 0-11 when you look at the next 8 games coming up!

I will be very surprised if we are not 0-11

Interesting though, I doubt any of Carlton, Hawthorn, Geelong, West Coast or Collingwood will miss the eight, so if North want to make it they have to be in the next best 3 of Sydney, Freo, Adelaide, Essendon and StKilda.

Though year ahead for our mob, those 11 are already clearly better than us, as are Richmond and Brisbane.

Leaves us down with Port, Bulldogs and the expansion clubs. Here's to tanking without having to even try, its 2007/2008 all over again.

Interesting though, I doubt any of Carlton, Hawthorn, Geelong, West Coast or Collingwood will miss the eight, so if North want to make it they have to be in the next best 3 of Sydney, Freo, Adelaide, Essendon and StKilda.

Though year ahead for our mob, those 11 are already clearly better than us, as are Richmond and Brisbane.

Leaves us down with Port, Bulldogs and the expansion clubs. Here's to tanking without having to even try, its 2007/2008 all over again.

I that note mate I am going to bed.

Only disagree with Cook Dr. G

Only played a dozen or so games with Casey

The kid has not played a senior game yet.

But the MFc will probably turn him into our usual tough, hard at it player like the others you mention!

I want to give him a chance and the players I names is not a slight on them - but from what I have heard of Cook he sounds more like a Watts than a Butcher or Hurley. Didn't someone on Demonland report that he got teary at training once because Moloney gave him a spray? Yeah I'm not holding my breath.

Quality culture, they have invested huge amounts of $$$$$ into Arden street - Supporters chipped in to send them to do high altitude training.

Quality culture, they have invested huge amounts of $$$$$ into Arden street - Supporters chipped in to send them to do high altitude training.

Did they chip in anywhere near the $5 million that the MFC supporters did to clear the debt? Cut the crap the culture is proactively set from within the club not from the supporters who are reactive to what occurs in the club.