13 hours ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Anyone in the market for one of those classic blazers. I imagine they are very rare. Not my item, simply came across it. When you oook at the photo closely, it looks as though Todd Viney didn’t think much of his ahhaha

 

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AFL-Melbourne-Demons-RARE-Player-Issued-CLUB-BLAZER/264002405995?hash=item3d77c5066b:g:EwsAAOSw3qRbqzTP

well bid, old dee. good price too

i wonder if it was jamie bennell's

 

 

 

Edited October 30, 20186 yr by daisycutter

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

well bid, old dee. good price too

i wonder if it was jamie bennell's

 

 

 

Your such a funster dc. Looking back over my support for the MFC since 1960 I doubt there is one thing the MFC has done that annoys me more than those bloody blazers. It says it all about CS reign.

As for Mr. Bennell what a wonderful selection that was!

5 minutes ago, old dee said:

Your such a funster dc. Looking back over my support for the MFC since 1960 I doubt there is one thing the MFC has done that annoys me more than those bloody blazers. It says it all about CS reign.

Maybe you could contact the buyer and see if they can also sell the matching knee high socks and straw hat?

Slightly related to the issue of sartorial elegance in the sporting arena, I had cause to go to the Washington Redskins website yesterday. (Presently on top of the NFC Eat after many many lean years.)

Anyway last week they played in NY against the Giants and the website had a section on the players travelling to NY. To say there was the full range of fashion was an understatement.

https://www.redskins.com/photos/photos-redskins-travel-to-new-york-2018#cc9427d1-9e25-4f62-89fa-3cea4cfd3412

Go Skins !!

4 hours ago, old dee said:

Your such a funster dc. Looking back over my support for the MFC since 1960 I doubt there is one thing the MFC has done that annoys me more than those bloody blazers. It says it all about CS reign.

As for Mr. Bennell what a wonderful selection that was!

Almost as self-indulgent as his Instagram account now

19 hours ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Anyone in the market for one of those classic blazers. I imagine they are very rare. Not my item, simply came across it. When you oook at the photo closely, it looks as though Todd Viney didn’t think much of his ahhaha

 

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AFL-Melbourne-Demons-RARE-Player-Issued-CLUB-BLAZER/264002405995?hash=item3d77c5066b:g:EwsAAOSw3qRbqzTP

A common occurrence in Public School.

5 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Almost as self-indulgent as his Instagram account now

I was Fortunate to not know about it till now MR. Shadow. Thank you

16 hours ago, old dee said:

I say burn the bloody things then all remnants of that sorry period can be forever removed.

They must  have been the singly the worst idea the MFC had this century.

Almost have to agree but I would have 

1. Raising of the flag at the start of the game 

2. White board Wednesday 

3. The trumpeter 

8 hours ago, Diablo Deemon said:

Almost have to agree but I would have 

1. Raising of the flag at the start of the game 

2. White board Wednesday 

3. The trumpeter 

The flag and trumpeter always made me cringe a little at the G 

17 hours ago, Biffen said:

A common occurrence in Public School.

???

10 hours ago, Diablo Deemon said:

Almost have to agree but I would have 

1. Raising of the flag at the start of the game 

2. White board Wednesday 

3. The trumpeter 

This thread should give pause to a lot of people who thought things like the bugler, the blazers and the world's busiest team logo were good ideas. 

There were two occasions in 2013 when I realized that the way our football club was being managed might not be up to the mark. I went to two games: Sydney vs. Collingwood and Richmond vs. St. Kilda that year. 

There were no 'opportunities to reconnect with the supporters heritage'. There were no celebrations of the glorious past. Strangely enough, most of what was emphasized was the action on the field. Novel concept to be sure.

 

2 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

The flag and trumpeter always made me cringe a little at the G 

Agree, but all of these things including the blazer are viewed against the background of a shambolic club on field and off field.

The fact that these initiatives came from the desk of CS probably made it worse as he was already on the nose. 

The response to these initiatives may have been different if they had been introduced in a different environment, one of success.

Lets face it, most supporters were already embarrassed and shamed with the performance of the club, and these initiatives were judged accordingly. 

I tend to think that the whole 'be proud of our history' approach of CS was a deliberate strategy to gloss over the abysmal nature of the playing side of operations @hemingway

That might sound conspiratorial but it was a case of 'there's no food in the fridge so let's repaint the house'.

The cobblers mentioned earlier was essentially a smokescreen to detract from the woeful performance of the team.

Time had to be bought initially when they started the rebuild in 2008/09. That I will grant them. However, 5 years into the rebuild and talking about how great things were in the 50's made people realize that they were being sold snake oil.

Edited November 1, 20186 yr by Colin B. Flaubert
Of course it was deliberate but to what end was not clarified

46 minutes ago, Colin B. Flaubert said:

I tend to think that the whole 'be proud of our history' approach of CS was a deliberate strategy to gloss over the abysmal nature of the playing side of operations @hemingway

That might sound conspiratorial but it was a case of 'there's no food in the fridge so let's repaint the house'.

The cobblers mentioned earlier was essentially a smokescreen to detract from the woeful performance of the team.

Time had to be bought initially when they started the rebuild in 2008/09. That I will grant them. However, 5 years into the rebuild and talking about how great things were in the 50's made people realize that they were being sold snake oil.

Yes, I think that's probably right Colin. 

I suppose that's what spin is about.  PR companies re-branding a poor product or organisation on the nose. 

I also agree, most people have got very good BS filters and quickly know when they are being sold a pup.

I guess in fairness, the Club and Schwab were looking at ways to maintain supporter interest and hope, but nothing could cover up the mess that was the club.  A trumpet may be nice but it turned out to be a trumpet piece for a requiem not music for the royal fireworks. 

On 10/31/2018 at 6:38 AM, old dee said:

I say burn the bloody things then all remnants of that sorry period can be forever removed.

They must  have been the singly the worst idea the MFC had this century.

 

On 10/31/2018 at 9:59 AM, old dee said:

Your such a funster dc. Looking back over my support for the MFC since 1960 I doubt there is one thing the MFC has done that annoys me more than those bloody blazers. It says it all about CS reign.

As for Mr. Bennell what a wonderful selection that was!

I suspect in hindsight the single worst idea the MFC has had this century was sacking Dean Bailey instead of Cameron Schwab after the 186 debacle.

4 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

 

I suspect in hindsight the single worst idea the MFC has had this century was sacking Dean Bailey instead of Cameron Schwab after the 186 debacle.

Correct LDC I had forgotten  that little gem.

31 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

 

I suspect in hindsight the single worst idea the MFC has had this century was sacking Dean Bailey instead of Cameron Schwab after the 186 debacle.

Yes, 

However, what sticks in my mind is not Cameron but Dean.

The sacking of Dean was inglorious, disgraceful and showed how far the club and the decision makers had fallen in regard to the important principles of human decency and respect.

Those decision makers should carry with them some level of guilt for Deans sad demise.

The fact that Dean was such a decent, honest and sincere person just made it worse. 

I met and talked to one of his sons in SA a few years later, after his Dad's death, and you know, he did not say a bad word against the club other than say it been very disappointing for Dean and his family. So much class and humility. 

 

1 hour ago, hemingway said:

Yes, 

However, what sticks in my mind is not Cameron but Dean.

The sacking of Dean was inglorious, disgraceful and showed how far the club and the decision makers had fallen in regard to the important principles of human decency and respect.

Those decision makers should carry with them some level of guilt for Deans sad demise.

The fact that Dean was such a decent, honest and sincere person just made it worse. 

I met and talked to one of his sons in SA a few years later, after his Dad's death, and you know, he did not say a bad word against the club other than say it been very disappointing for Dean and his family. So much class and humility. 

 

well you know, ernie, one doesn't necessarily have to sheet all the blame onto one single person. that's the easy and lazy way to see things, personally i see see a number of people from that era who must share at least some of that blame

we can all agree however that the club across the board was a shambles and very few club administrators covered themselves in any glory

15 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

well you know, ernie, one doesn't necessarily have to sheet all the blame onto one single person. that's the easy and lazy way to see things, personally i see see a number of people from that era who must share at least some of that blame

we can all agree however that the club across the board was a shambles and very few club administrators covered themselves in any glory

absolutely daisy

Would agree @daisycutter but would also add that there were those more culpable than others.

CS is usually top of the pops in the blame stakes. I think him staying on after 186 ultimately made him the most toxic of the bunch. His job seemed to have been secured by Machiavellian scheming and relationships with the good ol' boys network. 

We remember him with a great deal of love and respect, but Jimmy takes a share of the blame as well. The insiders/outsiders mentality that age the club from the inside out was founded under his watch. An incredibly insular club attained almost North Korea levels of isolation.

Garry, Don, Cuddles and the list goes on. But you are right, there was an overall infection eating away at the club that no-one person caused exclusively but they all played a part in introducing that culture.

I think it's a good thing that we can now have these discussions with the temperature turned down on the rhetoric and passion. That's not to say that we will be perpetually successful (hard times always come in life) but that era is far away enough in the rear vision mirror that we can rationally discuss it now.

Nothing wrong with the old boys club, the hawks under clarkson is full of ex demons. Some times clubs think the old boys club is bad and  rids itself of some great people, and the heart and soul of its own Club. The vitriol of many of you posters is disgusting, all Australian players get a blazer, CS is not to blame for 186, that's fairly on the shoulders of the players and dean who let the players get away with murder, they say it was a protest to CS, deep down it was a protest to the coach, and a protest to the players own lack of pride in their performance. And I don't know cam but deep down he was working his [censored] off keeping the club above water, and meant well  it is easy  to be a arm chair expert and live in hindsight.