The Stynes Factor 0 Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 love it, I am actually enjoying reading every article about neeld and melbourne's pre-season.
Satan 2,921 Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 No mention of 5 year plans which gladdens my heart:)
Sir Why You Little 37,454 Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 Neelds Blank Canvas yet more insights !! marvellous stuff It is almost like we have Clint Eastwood as a new coach!!! Nobody is going to cross this guy! G.Lyon....take a bow.
beelzebub 23,392 Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 New Coaching motto : Go ahead, make my day !!
Sir Why You Little 37,454 Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 New Coaching motto : Go ahead, make my day !! "You want the Desk or the table.....You Choose....."
Macca 17,127 Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 RR, I agree with your sentiments regarding your last comment, however,I feel ,it will take 3 years before the likely results of Neeld inc.staff can be judged,I year implemented, 1 year further development, then last year maintained. 3 more years ? The time for winning is always right now - regardless of development or talent - attitude is everything in sport - I've seen plenty of average teams play finals - it may take a little while for Neeld game plan to get through to the players but why not round 1 hey . 1
Sir Why You Little 37,454 Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 3 more years ? The time for winning is always right now - regardless of development or talent - attitude is everything in sport - I've seen plenty of average teams play finals - it may take a little while for Neeld game plan to get through to the players but why not round 1 hey . Correct . Attitude can move things regardless of where you are. This list will be ready for combat in Round 1. Not to say they will not continue to learn, but they will be ready for it.
Macca 17,127 Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 Correct . Attitude can move things regardless of where you are. This list will be ready for combat in Round 1. Not to say they will not continue to learn, but they will be ready for it. And apart from Neeld , it's Misson and Craig as well that should get us firing on all cylinders at the start of the season . 3 big additions . Thought it was interesting that Mark Neeld mentioned that Clark trains very hard - very telling considering he comes from lowly Brisbane . What's starting to stand out is how far behind we were in the last few years - a shambles really and no excuses .
Sir Why You Little 37,454 Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 And apart from Neeld , it's Misson and Craig as well that should get us firing on all cylinders at the start of the season . 3 big additions . Thought it was interesting that Mark Neeld mentioned that Clark trains very hard - very telling considering he comes from lowly Brisbane . What's starting to stand out is how far behind we were in the last few years - a shambles really and no excuses . when i say Neeld always include Misson and Craig in that word!!
bing181 9,473 Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 Thought it was interesting that Mark Neeld mentioned that Clark trains very hard - very telling considering he comes from lowly Brisbane . The cynic in me instantly went back to one of Clark's first interviews where he spoke of wanting to 'earn the trust of his new team mates'. Still, good on him. I feel it also goes to show how important it is to have real A-list stars and senior players around to set the pace. In spite of everything, Brisbane still has a couple of those, whereas we're in pretty short supply. Reading some of these articles makes me amazed that we actually did as well as we did last year! Talk about a shonky outfit (off-field/FD) ...
Macca 17,127 Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 The cynic in me instantly went back to one of Clark's first interviews where he spoke of wanting to 'earn the trust of his new team mates'. Still, good on him. I feel it also goes to show how important it is to have real A-list stars and senior players around to set the pace. In spite of everything, Brisbane still has a couple of those, whereas we're in pretty short supply. Reading some of these articles makes me amazed that we actually did as well as we did last year! Talk about a shonky outfit (off-field/FD) ... Yeah good points bing , re Clark .Though it does sound like we're coming from a fair way back - You can catch up quick with the right attitude. As for facilities , I'm reminded of that Glenn Archer comment " A 20kg dumbbell weighs the same at Arden st as it does at the (then) Lexus centre" And if you saw that Robbie Flower interview with Mike Sheahan earlier this year he talked about how pitiful the facilities were at the Junction oval at the start of the Northey era - lots of Finals in those years from memory .
Straight Sets Simon 23,113 Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 Neelds Blank Canvas yet more insights !! marvellous stuff "I want to have a competitive team..."
Choko 493 Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 Neeld's stance is very welcome in my view and long over due. I wonder now, for those of us that had the temerity to question DB and his football department, whether we are somewhat vindicated now. Neeld's assessment of some in the squad, as reported, would seem to suggest so. No doubt, DB is a terrific fella, but not what we needed at our stage of development in 2011. Onwards and upwards I say It is interesting, because Neeld has made no secret IMO of his opinion of Bailey. It's clear he thinks Bailey provided an armchair for our senior players, was not demanding enough on them physically and basically was not in the modern game. Neeld admits himself that talk is cheap, but he has done a bit of tough talking himself!!! What will be interesting is to see whether he will back it up if blokes like Davey, Watts, etc don't work hard enough. Here's hoping he does.
rpfc 29,024 Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 It is interesting, because Neeld has made no secret IMO of his opinion of Bailey. It's clear he thinks Bailey provided an armchair for our senior players, was not demanding enough on them physically and basically was not in the modern game. Neeld admits himself that talk is cheap, but he has done a bit of tough talking himself!!! What will be interesting is to see whether he will back it up if blokes like Davey, Watts, etc don't work hard enough. Here's hoping he does. Anything he says will be juxtaposed against Bailey but that does not mean he is casting judgement. Why bother. Geelong and about 8 other sides judged us in 2011... 2
beelzebub 23,392 Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 The essential I take out of much of what Neeld is saying /doing is simply this. He doesnt really care much about what was happening at MElbourne before he got there hes only focused on what WILL happen now he IS there. As rpfc suggests it will be others who wil clamber to make or invent comparisons for whatever motives drive them.
Sir Why You Little 37,454 Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 The essential I take out of much of what Neeld is saying /doing is simply this. He doesnt really care much about what was happening at MElbourne before he got there hes only focused on what WILL happen now he IS there. As rpfc suggests it will be others who wil clamber to make or invent comparisons for whatever motives drive them. i agree. What has happened in the past has no relevance to Mark Neeld. We are all screaming about our poor culture. Well guess what...HE IS DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT. I am going to enjoy this summer, as will the players who really want to achieve. ]
Satan 2,921 Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 Yeah good points bing , re Clark .Though it does sound like we're coming from a fair way back - You can catch up quick with the right attitude . As for facilities , I'm reminded of that Glenn Archer comment " A 20kg dumbbell weighs the same at Arden st as it does at the (then) Lexus centre" And if you saw that Robbie Flower interview with Mike Sheahan earlier this year he talked about how pitiful the facilities were at the Junction oval at the start of the Northey era - lots of Finals in those years from memory . but they probably waited their turn at Arden st and junction oval cos there not enough weights to go around
DirtyDees DDC 190 Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 He's only been at the club for 2 months, and already he hates our fitness levels. Jeeeeeees!! Wait till he sees our footy skills!!!! 2
Macca 17,127 Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) but they probably waited their turn at Arden st and junction oval cos there not enough weights to go around Don't doubt that for a second Satan . Neeld has already talked about contested football and the importance of it . A bit of 1 on 2 in any park with a reasonable surface will help players lift in this area . Edited November 12, 2011 by Nuggets
Swampfox 190 Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 Its a lot like 1953 if you read "The Red Fox" we will see a new team in 2012 that is for sure. Loving this. We are now measuring ourselves against the best and meaning it. And i thought i was alone thinking this guy's approach to football reminded me of someone Cant wait to see the game plan
Pipefitter 2,228 Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 Words are definitely cheap but I'm getting the feeling that Neeld has come in and said the party's over boys. Loving it.
Still Waiting 94 Posted November 12, 2011 Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) Cudos to Stynes, Lyon & co for their wisdom in going after and getting Neeld. He is a powerful breath of totally fresh air and don't the players in particular, need it? He doesn't give a f**k about previous years, coaches or players. He cannot change that. He is only interested in today and thereafter. These are the things he CAN change and is already doing so rapidly. There will be casualties on and off the field but this makes it even more exciting IMO. Players who choose to wimp it wont be wearing our famous guernsey anymore. Staff who don't perform will be shown the door. Perform, perform, perform or leave! Excuses for poor efforts will no longer be heard. Excuses don't get you results! Hardness on field will be the 1st priority, timidness will never again be tolerated. Improvement is already demanded and expected by all, on and off field. Work rates will increase across the whole club, with player's improvement and the resultant success, being the reward given. I hope the resolve and toughness already shown by Neeld gets even bigger and too bad to the players who choose not to fully embrace this ideology. "The dawning of excitement has arrived"! Edited November 12, 2011 by Still Waiting
Carlos Danger 380 Posted November 13, 2011 Posted November 13, 2011 Quite a few players were getting games last year based on standing (salary, captaincy, experience, etc.) and not so much on form. I prefer the ruthless approach and making it clear nobody is above being dropped. Don't just make up numbers, do everything you can to earn and keep your spot in the best 22. It's the way things should be. Bailey was far too nice and conservative to enforce something like this, I think we got the right guy in Neeld.
Mono 460 Posted November 13, 2011 Posted November 13, 2011 Quite a few players were getting games last year based on standing ...................... Watts for one was getting game time because "the young players needed to get games into them". I was never convinced, BUT who else do you play? There is/was not a lot of players knocking on the door. "Getting a game because you deserve it" is a cliche dependent on there being (suitable/adequate) players available. Seems Neeld has a "crash through or crash" view on things. Interesting times ahead. Ed.: spelling
faultydet 7,623 Posted November 13, 2011 Posted November 13, 2011 If Neeld refuses to buckle, and doesnt play blokes who refuse to chase their opponent, dont go in hard, or simply squib it, what sort of trade do you think we will get for Jurrah at the end of the year? I was at the essendon game this year, and a hard coach would not have played him in the seniors for the rest of the year. I was sickened by how gutless he was. Simply refuses to go body on body with anyone, regardless of size. I would love to see him playing for Casey, after a single performance like that.
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