After a good start to the season following on from last year's All Australian honours, Jamar suffered a posterior cruciate ligament injury in the big win over Adelaide.

Games MFC 2011 15  MFC Total 110 Goals MFC 2011  4 MFC Total 14

 Club Champion 154 votes (7th).

Still one of the best tap rucks out there.

I see a transition to Gawn in a few years time as first ruck but that should take care of itself hopefully.

I don't want to see a 23 year old Gawn leave because a 32 year old Jamar is keeping him out of the side.

But, on the other hand, a 32 year old Jamar would be handy when we are challenging...

We'll see how his body holds up.

What were his stats re tap to advantage? He often got his hand to the ball, but I felt this year that most of them went the wrong way. Whether that was him, or that those at his feet couldn't get the job done, I dont know. Good but not great 2011.

What were his stats re tap to advantage? He often got his hand to the ball, but I felt this year that most of them went the wrong way. Whether that was him, or that those at his feet couldn't get the job done, I dont know. Good but not great 2011.

Interesting you think so because the exact opposite is true for 2011 Jamar is one of the best:

HO HTA %HTA %EffHTA

Jamar 29.2 12.1 41.4 50.9

Cox 28.0 10.5 37.5 44.8

Jolly 24.8 9.8 39.5 54.0

Mumford 32.8 12.8 39.0 50.1

Edited October 23, 201114 yr by Diablo Deemon

Rush had a solid season without reaching the highs of his AA year (if 2010 was 9 out of 10, this year was probably around 6.5 imo). He seemed to have less impact around the ground and was certainly less telling when resting up forward. More importantly however, his tap work seemed less influential, perhaps because he is becoming more predictable to opposition mids (although he continued to have an excellent understanding with Beamer). I may be wrong, but it seemed to me that he may have lost a bit of spring post-PCL, or at least lost a bit of confidence in the knee. This, plus the loss of match-fitness during his 7 weeks out, would be part of the reason he didn't have the season we were hoping for.

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Edited October 24, 201114 yr by Deeoldfart

PCL stuffed his year when he was going well. HTA %age still top notch. A good preseason and he'll be at his best again.

Looked like he couldn't get off the ground at the end of the year. Hoping his body allows him to return to his best in 2012.

His injury early in the year was a blessing in disguise as it allowed both Martin and Gawn to thrive under the added responsibility, but ultimately you'd still prefer to have your best ruckman on the park.

Heres hoping a full recovery stand ups to solid preseason. Jamar will stil lbe our pivotal ruck for a while to come. Max will get his time in the sun. Undoubtedly some role shareleading to transition as time goes on.

He and Beamer early on in season 2011 were like milk and cookies, tom & jerry, rocky and bullwinkle, torvil and dean....you get the drift.

Very good tap ruckman, great on his day and when he went down, Beamer couldn't wait for his return. As Nasher stated above, whilst absent it proved a blessing in disguise for Martin especially to come into his own with confidence and game time and the introduction of Gawn.

I hope M.Jamar has a good off-season and a injury-free and fit season in 2012.

PCL stuffed his year when he was going well. HTA %age still top notch. A good preseason and he'll be at his best again.

This is it, he really works his way into seasons imo, this disrupted his rhythm, I think we will see alot more 2010 in 2012

IMO is to trade off Jamar to Adelaide after this season while he would still have decent value.

SOme may disagree but we have martin, gawn, fitzy, even pencil spencer incase of injuries...

In saying that another year like 2010 and he could be a big player in the premiership race for the demons...

IMO is to trade off Jamar to Adelaide after this season while he would still have decent value. SOme may disagree but we have martin, gawn, fitzy, even pencil spencer incase of injuries... In saying that another year like 2010 and he could be a big player in the premiership race for the demons...

Unless he wants to go, I think we should just keep him and we might find the careers of Jamar and Gawn compliment each other and in 3 years time Jamar might be near the end as The Gawn Decade © begins.

And even if Jamar is still at the club, it doesn't mean Gawn cannot be first ruck or play ahead of him. I just think that Jamar is such a great tap ruckman that I would like to have him show Gawn how to go about it.

As someone ("furious d"?) said in another thread, trading someone just because their currency is at its highest is the dumbest of the dumb ideas. Jamar is still young enough to be part of our premiership side, so as long as he remains better than Gawn then he remains in the side. If he later becomes surplus to requirements then by all means trade him, but we're not there yet. Obviously he'll have less currency then, but he'll also be less important to us.

Some people are getting way too excited about Gawn right now. Jamar is still far better than Gawn and will be for the foreseeable future. I think Gawn is a really exciting prospect but he's still a long way off, so let's not count our chickens before they hatch.

Some people are getting way too excited about Gawn right now. Jamar is still far better than Gawn and will be for the foreseeable future. I think Gawn is a really exciting prospect but he's still a long way off, so let's not count our chickens before they hatch.

Jamar is streets ahead of all other ruckmen at Melbourne and at least half the ruckmen in the comp (many put him in the top 4/5). I don't think anyone would dispute that. Gawn atm is just a promising ruckman with plenty of time up his sleeve and learning the caper.

^ Absolutely. That's why this trade talk is way too premature.

Not to mention that the next trade week is about 11 and a half months away.