Consider this a howl down. HOWL to you Redleg!

We keep Bail because he is a weapon. I'd rather trade out a compo pick and double combo of Warnock, Spencil, Bate or Maric. Bail stays.

I agree with you Sloonie if we could get Caddy for 2 of those players or even all 4 of them and one compo pick, hooray. As I said I rate Bail.

Edited October 16, 201113 yr by Redleg

For Caddy, first we need to accept dogs bid of pick 39 for Bate then -:

our Mid First round compo pick + Warnock plus exchange our newly acquired 39 in exchange for

Caddy + suns pick 50

Gives us out of this trade period. M.Clark, J. Caddy, Pick 36 & Pick 50. in affect Clark in Bate out - Caddy in Scully out - Pick 36 replaces maric pick 50 replaces warnock. covers off list management of having to move on min 3 players.

Next season still get Viney + still have live end of 1st rnd pick bloody good value. with GCS remember You have to give something worthwhile as Caddy under contract and GCS need to appear to have better deal going thier way. As Caddy was a #7 pick. (the boy can play)

Young gun Josh Caddy keen to help his dad.

If we're not trying to get involved in attracting Caddy to the club, we bloody well should be.

Will be a serious gun and wins his own footy.

I think we should go get him.

We need IMO big bodied Mids who win inside ball.

Caddy should be on a most wanted list. > 2012 2nd Comp pick + Warnock + $$$$$$$$$ to Josh + steakknives or more, to Suns.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/young-gun-josh-caddy-keen-to-help-his-dad/story-fn69a32t-1226167500775

I hope we make an offer.

Mid round compensation pick with sweeteners may be enough.

I'd like to keep our 1st comp pick for next year, for part of a Gaff attack, or for the draft.

Ok. I've got a question.

Hypothetically. If we nominate to use both compensation picks next year, and finish 8th.

we will in theory we will have pick 9(comp), 10 and 11(comp).

Would we be forced to use pick 9(comp) on Viney?

Just go get him

Its all about the mids right?

Just go get him

Its all about the mids right?

It is now.

Anybody else think the "my dad's sick and I want to be near him, but I'll only go to the bummers" line is ridiculous.

If he really 'had' to return to Melbourne, he'd let GC trade with any Melbourne based club.

What if Misson can do some work on Tappy's endurance and get him to play the Role Caddy does, we know he has the hardness just ran out of tank as he got tired in his first full season.

Nothing against Caddy just haven't seen much of him,

PS against any suggestion trading Bail out the likes of him, Tappy, Garland and Howe are your lesser like players who turn good sides into Premiership contenders. Saints have stars but after that they fall away dramatically and IMO that is where they fell short

What if Misson can do some work on Tappy's endurance and get him to play the Role Caddy does, we know he has the hardness just ran out of tank as he got tired in his first full season.

Nothing against Caddy just haven't seen much of him,

PS against any suggestion trading Bail out the likes of him, Tappy, Garland and Howe are your lesser like players who turn good sides into Premiership contenders. Saints have stars but after that they fall away dramatically and IMO that is where they fell short

This guy is almost the opposite of the tappy or caddy midfielder

Elite endurance but doesnt have the same size, people must have forgotten that Bail is one of few demons that can run out a game this time last season, like how this guy is developing personally, cliche but another pre-season and he will look the goods imo under a better managed team

We should have a real crack at Caddy. I see him becoming like Brent Moloney (challenging his spot and filling it when Beamer retires) only much more lethal.

I'd keep our higher compo pick for next years draft, bring that player in with Jack Viney. 2 good pickups along with Clark and Caddy this year.

I would offer our 2nd compo pick + pick 36 (2nd rounder) + pick 39 (Matty Bate) and even Matthew Warnock for Caddy and one of the GC's later picks, as we will still need to draft some players (perhaps some smokies?).

Caddy is the classic 'big bummed' Collingwood midfielder. Talk before last year's draft was that Collingwood were hoping he'd fall to their first pick. Wonder if the Collingwood thinking regarding this style of midfielder will be reflected by the gameplan and approach of Neeld.

This guy is almost the opposite of the tappy or caddy midfielder

Elite endurance but doesnt have the same size, people must have forgotten that Bail is one of few demons that can run out a game this time last season, like how this guy is developing personally, cliche but another pre-season and he will look the goods imo under a better managed team

I agree I meant to say Bail is an absolute running machine

Anybody else think the "my dad's sick and I want to be near him, but I'll only go to the bummers" line is ridiculous.

If he really 'had' to return to Melbourne, he'd let GC trade with any Melbourne based club.

Just like one Mitch Clark 'said' I'm only going to the Dockers.

The media is the media after all.

The way the Bombers trade I'm incredibly confident if he gets trade it would be to any team other than them.

Hello Demons.

I'd give a compensation pick (plus change) for Caddy in a heartbeat, but I'd do my best to keep the "mid 1st round" compo pick.

From here on out, our rise up the ladder will continue, and as each year goes by the "after 1st round" compo pick will become less valuable.

Even now with Mitch Clark it has lost some value.

If only we'd been smart enough to do the deal for Clark, but put it on hold while we snaffle Caddy first.

Oh well, it should work out for us well either way.

The thing is, if it were to happen, we start to accumulate more and more players of the ilk of Gysberts, McKenzie, Tapscott... very good, but you can only fit so many into a side.

Depth is valuable, but you can only maintain it for so long before good players leave for more opportunities.

The economy of positions available in the side (22) means you want to squeeze as much talent into the one player as you can.

We really should have traded the 2 compo picks for an absolute elite kid.

That said, caddy is not far off IMO from being a lot like an angry Luke Ball.

If we make a play for Caddy and get him, it tells me that Neeld is all about being the best we can form day dot

He isnt looking to wait and develop through the draft we have done this for 4 years, he is actively looking to fill the voids as quickly as possible

Our midfirst rounder will just about be Caddy's value maybe overs, pick 9 next year and he went at 7 and only played 2 games or something?

Essendon are offering pick 20 plus add ons....

I'd give a compensation pick (plus change) for Caddy in a heartbeat, but I'd do my best to keep the "mid 1st round" compo pick.

From here on out, our rise up the ladder will continue, and as each year goes by the "after 1st round" compo pick will become less valuable.

Even now with Mitch Clark it has lost some value.

If only we'd been smart enough to do the deal for Clark, but put it on hold while we snaffle Caddy first.

Oh well, it should work out for us well either way.

The thing is, if it were to happen, we start to accumulate more and more players of the ilk of Gysberts, McKenzie, Tapscott... very good, but you can only fit so many into a side.

Depth is valuable, but you can only maintain it for so long before good players leave for more opportunities.

The economy of positions available in the side (22) means you want to squeeze as much talent into the one player as you can.

We really should have traded the 2 compo picks for an absolute elite kid.

That said, caddy is not far off IMO from being a lot like an angry Luke Ball.

Very good points Lutz, we need 2 elite midfield performers tbh

Pendlbury types or close to this is our biggest "gap"

Of course, it's not very often you can get a guarantee that a player will be an elite player at AFL level.

But goddamn, O'Meara really looks like it.

Not as sold on Crouch.

Of course its obvious, my point is more that i dont see how we are going to add them to our team at present,

Players drafted will take 3-4 years to hit the level required within a great midfield

And i dont enough about Caddy to suggest he is this type of quality

Anybody else think the "my dad's sick and I want to be near him, but I'll only go to the bummers" line is ridiculous.

If he really 'had' to return to Melbourne, he'd let GC trade with any Melbourne based club.

Well, If he still has one year of contract to serve, then the Suns surely can choose.

Best deal from Melb clubs would surely do It?

Think of Caddy as a younger, faster, better skilled Moloney. No he can't kick it as far, but he can still thump it a mile.

Offer our latter compo pick, our second rounder, Matty Bate pick (39) and Warnock (a player GC are interested in) for Caddy and a late pick.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/live-event-blog/day-seven-of-2011-afl-trade-week-looks-at-mitch-clark-fallout-brad-ebert-jordan-lisle-and-plenty-more/story-fn5k2y1b-1226167674955

Paul Pickering says: I'm hearing that Melbourne are the other major bidder for Caddy.

http://www.foxsports...b-1226167674955

Paul Pickering says: I'm hearing that Melbourne are the other major bidder for Caddy.

I should hope so.

We need a midrange injection, we hold some aces, lets just do it

http://www.foxsports...b-1226167674955

Paul Pickering says: I'm hearing that Melbourne are the other major bidder for Caddy.

Also spoke about Suns needing a ruckman. I would offer compo pick, Spencer and Warnock if they want him. That trumps Bombers by a mile unless they throw in star player. Their best pick is 19. That would mean we have replaced the bloke who left with Caddy and another compo pick next year.

Also spoke about Suns needing a ruckman. I would offer compo pick, Spencer and Warnock if they want him. That trumps Bombers by a mile unless they throw in star player. Their best pick is 19. That would mean we have replaced the bloke who left with Caddy and another compo pick next year.

Our compo pick in next years draft could well be a better option than 19 in this one. GC could be of the same mindset.