Captain 2012

[Arrow 1,257]

Why can't I vote Juiceeeeeeee?

[baysidedave 246]

I think they should start fresh with a new coach, and a new leadership group and plan to have them both for 5 years.

Jack Grimes is my vote.

if Grimes played more often then I would pick him but he's just not on the field enough. Green should keep it for one more year then Trengove or Grimes.

[MelbournePassion 7]

I would like to see Trengove challenge for captaincy in about 3-4 years time, but at this point in time I still believe Brad Green shouldn't be stripped of his role as captain as he has only had 1 year of it, and I think he will grow into the role like James McDonald did.

[rpfc 28,769]

I would like to see Trengove challenge for captaincy in about 3-4 years time, but at this point in time I still believe Brad Green shouldn't be stripped of his role as captain as he has only had 1 year of it, and I think he will grow into the role like James McDonald did.

Yeah, it's the safer option to keep Brad as Captain.

People will think we are being mean if we moved him out of the captaincy.

And perception is so important at this level.

I just can't seem to care.

He shouldn't be captain in 2012 and he won't.

[Deano74 156]

We want an aggressive Warrior

Sylvia is the man to lead us into Battle.

I think it would take his game to another level.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Yeah, it's the safer option to keep Brad as Captain.

People will think we are being mean if we moved him out of the captaincy.

And perception is so important at this level.

I just can't seem to care.

He shouldn't be captain in 2012 and he won't.

Your right rpfc, & IMO this is the same problem the Haunts our Club for So long Now. Political Correct'ness!

Strangulation by politeness... {The Art of slow but sure Suffercation}

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Edited August 24, 2011 by dee-luded

[daisycutter 29,737]

Your right rpfc, & IMO this is the same problem the Haunts our Club for So long Now. Political Correct'ness!

Strangulation by politeness... {The Art of slow but sure Suffercation}

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I know one shouldn't make this decision based on what the press thinks, but I'm sure that if Greeny is sacked as coach the press will go to town on us, based on radio discussions I've heard esp tonight on 3AW with Healey, Caro etc. They will play up the negative anti-mfc stuff regardless of what they really think just because its easy to sensationalise it.

I think Greeny should lose the captaincy too but brace yourselves for some ugly press. It will be interesting to see how the club handle this. I hope they go on the front foot and have a clear and reasonable explanation. It will depend too on how Greeny accepts it (or not?).

P.S. I also think it might turn out a good decision for Greeny re his on-field form

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

We want an aggressive Warrior

Sylvia is the man to lead us into Battle.

I think it would take his game to another level.

Great idea. Uh oh Sylvia got himself suspended for a cheap shot off the ball. What a leader.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

I know one shouldn't make this decision based on what the press thinks, but I'm sure that if Greeny is sacked as coach the press will go to town on us, based on radio discussions I've heard esp tonight on 3AW with Healey, Caro etc. They will play up the negative anti-mfc stuff regardless of what they really think just because its easy to sensationalise it.

I think Greeny should lose the captaincy too but brace yourselves for some ugly press. It will be interesting to see how the club handle this. I hope they go on the front foot and have a clear and reasonable explanation. It will depend too on how Greeny accepts it (or not?).

P.S. I also think it might turn out a good decision for Greeny re his on-field form

Its likely that this issue, the potential departure of the CEO and the Head of the FD and the coach appointment will be media fodder and we need to harden up.

[Jack7 528]

Regardless of who has C next to their name,Brent Moloney is our leader and should captain for at least the next 2 years while other players (JT & JG) concentrate on their football without the heavy burden of worrying about the captaincy.It's a huge job captaining an AFL club with the media and sponsors etc. all wanting a piece of you on a weekly basis,it's not just tossing the coin on gameday.

Trengove and Grimes are nowhere near ready for the captaincy and those of you who voted for them know Jack about what it takes and how your onfield performance can suffer.Both of them will be leaders in 3-4 years but why push them into it at such a young age when their games aren't developed enough.

[Deano74 156]

Great idea. Uh oh Sylvia got himself suspended for a cheap shot off the ball. What a leader.

That wasnt smart, he will learn.

Sylvia's Best is better than anyones and is coming of age in his performances.

Captains, need to be match winners, who can turn a game! or Lift a side

ie Neitz, Carey in his day, Today you have the likes of Hodge, Brown, etc.

I dont think anyone in the side has the ability to lift and change the game better than Colin.

Who was the last person to be able and have 29 touches and kick 5 goals.

Yes he got suspended, but he was hitting the body hard and didnt get it right. He was a man trying to lift his side to victory.

So IMO hes a bloody good choice.

[dee-luded 2,959]

That wasnt smart, he will learn.

Sylvia's Best is better than anyones and is coming of age in his performances.

Captains, need to be match winners, who can turn a game! or Lift a side

ie Neitz, Carey in his day, Today you have the likes of Hodge, Brown, etc.

I dont think anyone in the side has the ability to lift and change the game better than Colin.

Who was the last person to be able and have 29 touches and kick 5 goals.

Yes he got suspended, but he was hitting the body hard and didnt get it right. He was a man trying to lift his side to victory.

So IMO hes a bloody good choice.

Anyone can see, If you think about it, that here is a Big push for aggression & hardness to be added to players games.

Some of those who it doesn't come to easily to, will be clumsy as they TRY to adjust to adding aggro.

IMO, Davey and Sylvia both, accidentally over reacted trying to be aggressive at the ball and contest.

This can happen when difficult things are demanded of certain types.

[dee-luded 2,959]

I know one shouldn't make this decision based on what the press thinks, but I'm sure that if Greeny is sacked as coach the press will go to town on us, based on radio discussions I've heard esp tonight on 3AW with Healey, Caro etc. They will play up the negative anti-mfc stuff regardless of what they really think just because its easy to sensationalise it.

I think Greeny should lose the captaincy too but brace yourselves for some ugly press. It will be interesting to see how the club handle this. I hope they go on the front foot and have a clear and reasonable explanation. It will depend too on how Greeny accepts it (or not?).

P.S. I also think it might turn out a good decision for Greeny re his on-field form

You know what, beggars can't be choosers.

we have to get over ourselves worrying about this so called leaders pride. simply because we're not leaders. Not since 1964.

So we must just Get Over Ourselves!

First we can take some chances recruiting, and we can stop being 'Prim a Donas' about Tattoos etc. Who the Hell do we think we are?

We need a couple or 3, really non conservative, creative types, (forwards & mid) Extroverts.

And we need to not tell the players their Stars, when they've just played they're first games... We Overhype our own, and then convince ourselves they really are that good and so pay them that way.

And Captains,,, what we can sack a Coach, who's spent his career losing for Us, But we can't sack a 1st Yr Captain, who isn't physical enough???

what??????

# Edit: It almost seems that we're More concerned about Not making mistakes, in case we embarrass ourselves,,, than taking chances designed to Win!!!

Edited August 24, 2011 by dee-luded

[dbj1983 138]

Where's Tom Scully's name??

Surely you're joking right?

[Nasher 33,617]

That wasnt smart, he will learn.

When? He's 25 and has played 105 games of AFL football - by law of averages he's over half way through his career. I love Sylvia as a player, but it's clear that he's lacking when it comes to being disciplined. He hasn't got enough self control on or off the field to be in the frame as captain.

Sylvia's Best is better than anyones and is coming of age in his performances.

Captains, need to be match winners, who can turn a game! or Lift a side

ie Neitz, Carey in his day, Today you have the likes of Hodge, Brown, etc.

I dont think anyone in the side has the ability to lift and change the game better than Colin.

Who was the last person to be able and have 29 touches and kick 5 goals.

And? Being a really good player is just one box to be ticked for captain, and it's probably the least important box. If we'd done it your way, Jeff Farmer would've been our captain in 2000.

How would Sylvia go on these criteria?

- Complete professionalism, at all times, all year round?

- Thorough attitude towards training and recovery?

- Self-discipline on and off the field?

- Unwavering respect from his teammates?

- Able to effectively communicate with the group?

- Able to effectively communicate with the media?

[Deano74 156]

Anyone can see, If you think about it, that here is a Big push for aggression & hardness to be added to players games.

Some of those who it doesn't come to easily to, will be clumsy as they TRY to adjust to adding aggro.

IMO, Davey and Sylvia both, accidentally over reacted trying to be aggressive at the ball and contest.

This can happen when difficult things are demanded of certain types.

All it says to me there is a fine line between a fair hit and an illegal hit, which gets you suspended.

Hit the head your out and there has been plenty of players had weeks off for going over that fine line.

If you play physical, you will win some, lose some.

[dee-luded 2,959]

All it says to me there is a fine line between a fair hit and an illegal hit, which gets you suspended.

Hit the head your out and there has been plenty of players had weeks off for going over that fine line.

If you play physical, you will win some, lose some.

Oh, of course, But I'm sure these boys didn't Go at the contest with a Pre Meditated thought to go the Head. I'm sure they didn't but just reacted poorly.

[Deano74 156]

When? He's 25 and has played 105 games of AFL football - by law of averages he's over half way through his career. I love Sylvia as a player, but it's clear that he's lacking when it comes to being disciplined. He hasn't got enough self control on or off the field to be in the frame as captain.

And? Being a really good player is just one box to be ticked for captain, and it's probably the least important box. If we'd done it your way, Jeff Farmer would've been our captain in 2000.

How would Sylvia go on these criteria?

- Complete professionalism, at all times, all year round? Geez hes not Fev, Hes had his troubles, but i dont think he has a problem.

- Thorough attitude towards training and recovery? Not at club wouldn't know, but he's as fit as anyone

- Self-discipline on and off the field? would have thought good these days.

- Unwavering respect from his teammates? would have to ask the players direct, how would anyone know that.

- Able to effectively communicate with the group? Talks ok with the media in interviews no worries, so should be able to talk to team mates.

- Able to effectively communicate with the media? see above. But often is a person of choice to do interviews.

From what i seen hes really good at it.

Do you want a good show poney or someone who will inspire on the field and lift the team to better performances.

[mrtwister 652]

When? He's 25 and has played 105 games of AFL football - by law of averages he's over half way through his career. I love Sylvia as a player, but it's clear that he's lacking when it comes to being disciplined. He hasn't got enough self control on or off the field to be in the frame as captain.

And? Being a really good player is just one box to be ticked for captain, and it's probably the least important box. If we'd done it your way, Jeff Farmer would've been our captain in 2000.

How would Sylvia go on these criteria?

- Complete professionalism, at all times, all year round?

- Thorough attitude towards training and recovery?

- Self-discipline on and off the field?

- Unwavering respect from his teammates?

- Able to effectively communicate with the group?

- Able to effectively communicate with the media?

Jonesy B)

[Adam The God 30,407]

I know one shouldn't make this decision based on what the press thinks, but I'm sure that if Greeny is sacked as coach the press will go to town on us, based on radio discussions I've heard esp tonight on 3AW with Healey, Caro etc. They will play up the negative anti-mfc stuff regardless of what they really think just because its easy to sensationalise it.

I think Greeny should lose the captaincy too but brace yourselves for some ugly press. It will be interesting to see how the club handle this. I hope they go on the front foot and have a clear and reasonable explanation. It will depend too on how Greeny accepts it (or not?).

P.S. I also think it might turn out a good decision for Greeny re his on-field form

The press are the ones who have been continually saying that we are bereft of leaders. They'll continue to write whatever they want to sell papers. All they do is backflips. Make the tough decisions, MFC. Green should not be captain. If we're to be a successful club once more, we must cut out the poisonously weak culture still lingering from the Daniher era.

[TheVoice 33]

Head says Beamer, Heart says Trengove.

I went with the heart.

We need to be daring.

[gg24 29]

Sylvia would be fantastic, Trengove too young.

If Green re-signs and plays on next year (which I'd bet on happening), then he will remain captain.

[old dee 23,871]

Head says Beamer, Heart says Trengove.

I went with the heart.

We need to be daring.

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[rpfc 28,769]

Sylvia would be fantastic, Trengove too young.

If Green re-signs and plays on next year (which I'd bet on happening), then he will remain captain.

I could barely disagree more with this post.

Green may stay, but not as captain.

Trengove may be young, but he is much older than Colin Sylvia in every facet other than time spent on this earth.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Trengove well ahead in the voting obviously his attitude and style is reflecting well on many people...