The No T$ No B$ Thread

[AzzKikA 2,371]

5 hours ago, DemonFrog said:

You city slickers believe everything the Fed's tell you about the NBN and how it provides fast Internet to everyone. Well video conferencing requires decent Internet speeds, plus it's a poor way to deliver a conference.

The NBN started construction in my area in May 2013 and it has not been completed as yet. I assume they want to complete their entire east coast network before they complete my area. IMO it should be called the NBN.CON.

 

 

I do not know who you are talking to but anyone that has the NBN, myself included, doesn't rate it in the slightest.  We used to have cable broadband in our old house and that was much better, even during peak times.

There are plenty of areas that the NBN has yet to hit in or around Melbourne metro, places that have a hefty price tag attached to them.  The most disapointing thing about the NBN is that businesses do not have access to it.  Our work has ADSL2+, while the download speed is barely adequate, 3mbsp/s, the upload speed @ 0.20mbp/s nulifies any sort of gain we may get.  Think of how difficult it is to send an email that is 5mb when you are using a cloud based email service.

[bazza226 74]

I am having similar internet issues at work - I have now signed up with TPG for a 10/10Mbps unlimited Gig service for $199/month + GST.

Hopefully that will speed up our system.

[AzzKikA 2,371]

10 minutes ago, bazza226 said:

I am having similar internet issues at work - I have now signed up with TPG for a 10/10Mbps unlimited Gig service for $199/month + GST.

Hopefully that will speed up our system.

Yeah we looked into this also, the issue is whether they have enough pairs at the exchange to "double up" creating the extra speed.  Very expensive too, going for $40p/m to $199 is a little out of our range, we are only a small business.

[bazza226 74]

We were paying Optus $185 for a 100Gig  8Mbps/640K service so our cost increase isn't too bad as our usage was increasing due to increasing cloud services and updates to software no longer arriving by DVD but by cloud.

I understand your cost issue but unfortunately NBN if it ever gets to Melbourne isn't for business users and would cost more anyway.

[Red and Bluebeard 2,101]

6 hours ago, DemonFrog said:

So you work in the Italian Army?

No but they would probably have better food ... ?

[Red and Bluebeard 2,101]

12 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Sadly its invariably  not an evening of fine wines

Plenty of hot air and fine company though ....

[jackaub 1,402]

52 minutes ago, AzzKikA said:

I do not know who you are talking to but anyone that has the NBN, myself included, doesn't rate it in the slightest.  We used to have cable broadband in our old house and that was much better, even during peak times.

There are plenty of areas that the NBN has yet to hit in or around Melbourne metro, places that have a hefty price tag attached to them.  The most disapointing thing about the NBN is that businesses do not have access to it.  Our work has ADSL2+, while the download speed is barely adequate, 3mbsp/s, the upload speed @ 0.20mbp/s nulifies any sort of gain we may get.  Think of how difficult it is to send an email that is 5mb when you are using a cloud based email service.

Yes AZZ I live in Vic 3004- Not available.Just unbelievable!!!

[AzzKikA 2,371]

10 minutes ago, jackaub said:

Yes AZZ I live in Vic 3004- Not available.Just unbelievable!!!

What do you have, broadband?

19 minutes ago, bazza226 said:

We were paying Optus $185 for a 100Gig  8Mbps/640K service so our cost increase isn't too bad as our usage was increasing due to increasing cloud services and updates to software no longer arriving by DVD but by cloud.

I understand your cost issue but unfortunately NBN if it ever gets to Melbourne isn't for business users and would cost more anyway.

Not NBN, but the fibre infrastructure will be.  It is already starting to be advertised for a replacement for land lines.

Edited November 11, 2016 by AzzKikA

[old dee 24,073]

3 hours ago, Dr John Dee said:

I bloody don't ... I may not be a city slicker anyway but I have the nbn's satellite 'service' (despite having 100% signal strength for fixed wireless, I'm not permitted access to it). Slow when it's working, which happens episodically.

 

Far too systematic, Mr Old.

Correct  Dr. 

I would love to know how they decide but alas I think it will remain one of the wonders of the 21st Century.

[dpositive 1,838]

Well we have NBN in the wilds of Murmungee 3747 or so they say.

I think it is just that there are so few of us here with so little demand for high speed anything that we cannot overload the local wireless signal which is sent to a pigeon owner who dispatches messages to all corners while making up a temporary response that indicates there is some fault affecting transmission. After this notification the flashing lights go out and we resort to conversation until the pigeon returns.

[beelzebub 23,392]

Nbn

National bloody nuisance.

An absolute joke. Was severely compromised from the get go. Whoever designed it was a nong. 

Spent 12 years as a systems engineer and our little band of brethren  even when i gave it away in 2005 could see its inbuilt limitations. Only stupidity and arrogance combined with ignorance has allowed it to still be happening. Should have chucked out and started again....(before they actually started )

Billions wasted.Beuracratic bs of highest order

[Red and Bluebeard 2,101]

4 hours ago, old dee said:

Correct  Dr. 

I would love to know how they decide but alas I think it will remain one of the wonders of the 21st Century.

Two words: marginal seats ....

[Earl Hood 6,166]

3 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Nbn

National bloody nuisance.

An absolute joke. Was severely compromised from the get go. Whoever designed it was a nong. 

Spent 12 years as a systems engineer and our little band of brethren  even when i gave it away in 2005 could see its inbuilt limitations. Only stupidity and arrogance combined with ignorance has allowed it to still be happening. Should have chucked out and started again....(before they actually started )

Billions wasted.Beuracratic bs of highest order

The NBN system equivalent would be in place at least in the major cities and regional areas before now if we hadn't privatised Telstra in my humble opinion and at less cost. 

[beelzebub 23,392]

1 hour ago, Earl Hood said:

The NBN system equivalent would be in place at least in the major cities and regional areas before now if we hadn't privatised Telstra in my humble opinion and at less cost. 

not sure thats even relevant EH..the original engineering was crap..still is.

[Redleg 42,127]

13 and no twist. 

[Whispering_Jack 31,359]

May I respectfully bring to the attention of posters here that we have now adopted a new regime on derailing threads. 

The rules are being brought in restrospectively so our team of moderators will start work on Monday at page 1. The process is expected to last about six weeks at the end of which the thread should be reduced to no more than four pages.

We look forward to your assistance and co-operation in assisting us with this task.

Thank you.

[beelzebub 23,392]

WJ... In all reality this thread is all about derailment 

[Whispering_Jack 31,359]

Just now, beelzebub said:

WJ... In all reality this thread is all about derailment 

I take that as a confession on your part and, in accordance with the AFL sanctions policy, ban you from posting for one month backdated to 1 October, 2016.

 

[Red and Bluebeard 2,101]

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

WJ... In all reality this thread is all about derailment 

Point of order, your Honour. The only known way to derail this thread is to mention a certain former Melbourne player.  Otherwise any charge of derailment won't stand up under cross examination ... ?

[daisycutter 29,989]

7 minutes ago, Red and Bluebeard said:

Point of order, your Honour. The only known way to derail this thread is to mention a certain former Melbourne player.  Otherwise any charge of derailment won't stand up under cross examination ... ?

plus, banana bashing should be subject to immediate banishment

[beelzebub 23,392]

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

plus, banana bashing should be subject to immediate banishment

With no appeal allowed 

[Dr John Dee 1,057]

4 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

May I respectfully bring to the attention of posters here that we have now adopted a new regime on derailing threads. 

The rules are being brought in restrospectively so our team of moderators will start work on Monday at page 1. The process is expected to last about six weeks at the end of which the thread should be reduced to no more than four pages.

We look forward to your assistance and co-operation in assisting us with this task.

Thank you.

I favour the global deletion. Might be good practice for when The Donald takes over.

[daisycutter 29,989]

5 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

May I respectfully bring to the attention of posters here that we have now adopted a new regime on derailing threads. 

The rules are being brought in restrospectively so our team of moderators will start work on Monday at page 1. The process is expected to last about six weeks at the end of which the thread should be reduced to no more than four pages.

We look forward to your assistance and co-operation in assisting us with this task.

Thank you.

four [censored] pages! this will be akin to the wanton destruction of the library at alexandria. at least thanks to modern technology we will have the wayback machine

[Biffen 12,949]

51 minutes ago, Dr John Dee said:

I favour the global deletion. Might be good practice for when The Donald takes over.

Donald taught me how to argue  my way to scandal.

Now that he has achieved power you seem to be adopting a Hillary like approach to governance.

Couple this with the outbreak of politeness on Demonland and I am all at sea.

The world grows more complex by the minute.

Btw- I use the NBN at my meth lab in the rural backwater- the service is surprisingly good and should allow for multiple high speed banning and admonishments.

I am excited by the new regimes of political incorrectness and political correctness we live in.

None can existed without the other it seems.

Keep well good Dr and never let anyone say you are not fair and just.

[Red and Bluebeard 2,101]

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

With no appeal allowed 

How do you have bananas without the peel?