2 hours ago, Red and Bluebeard said:

Would love to -- it was well worth it last year. Unfortunately I have a stupid work 'retreat' that day .... I am sure Old Dee and Beelzebub can eat my share between them

what...you reckon we'd beat Red to it ??? ridiculous ...lol

I assume Old Dee will be supplying the finest wines available from his personal cellar ?

3 hours ago, beelzebub said:

what...you reckon we'd beat Red to it ??? ridiculous ...lol

If the two of you hold him down ... ?

2 hours ago, Biffen said:

I assume Old Dee will be supplying the finest wines available from his personal cellar ?

Sadly its invariably  not an evening of fine wines

On Wednesday, November 09, 2016 at 7:41 PM, daisycutter said:

sounds like a great junket, froggy. what's new to learn about roads you can't get out of a book or the web and what's wrong with a video conference 

I understand that by attending last year's conference help my new local government secure 60 million in road funding.

This money was to seal a road that the State Government promised to seal in 1957 when it closed the rail access to our town.

Unfortunately there a State election soon and last time there was funding for this project the State spent the money in Perth on the expansion of the train passenger network. 

I did learn how the Victorian State Government needs to hand over 200 million to the Glengle Shire so they can fix their roads. Plus NSW councils need more road funding from their State government. Apparently the Federal Transport Department wants a new user pays road funding system as the current fuel taxes are unfair and not providing them with enough income.

You city slickers believe everything the Fed's tell you about the NBN and how it provides fast Internet to everyone. Well video conferencing requires decent Internet speeds, plus it's a poor way to deliver a conference.

The NBN started construction in my area in May 2013 and it has not been completed as yet. I assume they want to complete their entire east coast network before they complete my area. IMO it should be called the NBN.CON.

 

 

12 hours ago, Red and Bluebeard said:

Would love to -- it was well worth it last year. Unfortunately I have a stupid work 'retreat' that day .... I am sure Old Dee and Beelzebub can eat my share between them

So you work in the Italian Army?

14 we are nearly don with this, I mean done with it. 

3 hours ago, DemonFrog said:

I understand that by attending last year's conference help my new local government secure 60 million in road funding.

This money was to seal a road that the State Government promised to seal in 1957 when it closed the rail access to our town.

Unfortunately there a State election soon and last time there was funding for this project the State spent the money in Perth on the expansion of the train passenger network. 

I did learn how the Victorian State Government needs to hand over 200 million to the Glengle Shire so they can fix their roads. Plus NSW councils need more road funding from their State government. Apparently the Federal Transport Department wants a new user pays road funding system as the current fuel taxes are unfair and not providing them with enough income.

You city slickers believe everything the Fed's tell you about the NBN and how it provides fast Internet to everyone. Well video conferencing requires decent Internet speeds, plus it's a poor way to deliver a conference.

The NBN started construction in my area in May 2013 and it has not been completed as yet. I assume they want to complete their entire east coast network before they complete my area. IMO it should be called the NBN.CON.

 

 

Don't kid yourself DF I live in metro Melbourne and we are not even on the planning list that shows the areas to be done in the next three years. I have tried to work how the choose the areas to do and the the result is they pick them with a blind fold and a pin!

Edited November 10, 20169 yr by old dee

4 hours ago, DemonFrog said:

You city slickers believe everything the Fed's tell you about the NBN and how it provides fast Internet to everyone. Well video conferencing requires decent Internet speeds, plus it's a poor way to deliver a conference.

The NBN started construction in my area in May 2013 and it has not been completed as yet. I assume they want to complete their entire east coast network before they complete my area. IMO it should be called the NBN.CON.

I bloody don't ... I may not be a city slicker anyway but I have the nbn's satellite 'service' (despite having 100% signal strength for fixed wireless, I'm not permitted access to it). Slow when it's working, which happens episodically.

 

53 minutes ago, old dee said:

Don't kid yourself DF I live in metro Melbourne and we are not even on the planning list that shows the areas to be done in the next three years. I have tried to work how the choose the areas to do and the the result is they pick them with a blind fold and a pin!

Far too systematic, Mr Old.

4 hours ago, DemonFrog said:

I understand that by attending last year's conference help my new local government secure 60 million in road funding.

This money was to seal a road that the State Government promised to seal in 1957 when it closed the rail access to our town.

Forgot to ask, Froggie: did you learn about the Queensland system which used to operate brilliantly by having a minister of the crown living in a local government area (with the small proviso that any developed road usually ended at the minister's gate?

5 hours ago, DemonFrog said:

You city slickers believe everything the Fed's tell you about the NBN and how it provides fast Internet to everyone. Well video conferencing requires decent Internet speeds, plus it's a poor way to deliver a conference.

The NBN started construction in my area in May 2013 and it has not been completed as yet. I assume they want to complete their entire east coast network before they complete my area. IMO it should be called the NBN.CON.

 

 

I do not know who you are talking to but anyone that has the NBN, myself included, doesn't rate it in the slightest.  We used to have cable broadband in our old house and that was much better, even during peak times.

There are plenty of areas that the NBN has yet to hit in or around Melbourne metro, places that have a hefty price tag attached to them.  The most disapointing thing about the NBN is that businesses do not have access to it.  Our work has ADSL2+, while the download speed is barely adequate, 3mbsp/s, the upload speed @ 0.20mbp/s nulifies any sort of gain we may get.  Think of how difficult it is to send an email that is 5mb when you are using a cloud based email service.

I am having similar internet issues at work - I have now signed up with TPG for a 10/10Mbps unlimited Gig service for $199/month + GST.

Hopefully that will speed up our system.

10 minutes ago, bazza226 said:

I am having similar internet issues at work - I have now signed up with TPG for a 10/10Mbps unlimited Gig service for $199/month + GST.

Hopefully that will speed up our system.

Yeah we looked into this also, the issue is whether they have enough pairs at the exchange to "double up" creating the extra speed.  Very expensive too, going for $40p/m to $199 is a little out of our range, we are only a small business.

We were paying Optus $185 for a 100Gig  8Mbps/640K service so our cost increase isn't too bad as our usage was increasing due to increasing cloud services and updates to software no longer arriving by DVD but by cloud.

I understand your cost issue but unfortunately NBN if it ever gets to Melbourne isn't for business users and would cost more anyway.

6 hours ago, DemonFrog said:

So you work in the Italian Army?

No but they would probably have better food ... ?

12 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Sadly its invariably  not an evening of fine wines

Plenty of hot air and fine company though ....

52 minutes ago, AzzKikA said:

I do not know who you are talking to but anyone that has the NBN, myself included, doesn't rate it in the slightest.  We used to have cable broadband in our old house and that was much better, even during peak times.

There are plenty of areas that the NBN has yet to hit in or around Melbourne metro, places that have a hefty price tag attached to them.  The most disapointing thing about the NBN is that businesses do not have access to it.  Our work has ADSL2+, while the download speed is barely adequate, 3mbsp/s, the upload speed @ 0.20mbp/s nulifies any sort of gain we may get.  Think of how difficult it is to send an email that is 5mb when you are using a cloud based email service.

Yes AZZ I live in Vic 3004- Not available.Just unbelievable!!!

10 minutes ago, jackaub said:

Yes AZZ I live in Vic 3004- Not available.Just unbelievable!!!

What do you have, broadband?

19 minutes ago, bazza226 said:

We were paying Optus $185 for a 100Gig  8Mbps/640K service so our cost increase isn't too bad as our usage was increasing due to increasing cloud services and updates to software no longer arriving by DVD but by cloud.

I understand your cost issue but unfortunately NBN if it ever gets to Melbourne isn't for business users and would cost more anyway.

Not NBN, but the fibre infrastructure will be.  It is already starting to be advertised for a replacement for land lines.

Edited November 11, 20169 yr by AzzKikA

3 hours ago, Dr John Dee said:

I bloody don't ... I may not be a city slicker anyway but I have the nbn's satellite 'service' (despite having 100% signal strength for fixed wireless, I'm not permitted access to it). Slow when it's working, which happens episodically.

 

Far too systematic, Mr Old.

Correct  Dr. 

I would love to know how they decide but alas I think it will remain one of the wonders of the 21st Century.

Well we have NBN in the wilds of Murmungee 3747 or so they say.

I think it is just that there are so few of us here with so little demand for high speed anything that we cannot overload the local wireless signal which is sent to a pigeon owner who dispatches messages to all corners while making up a temporary response that indicates there is some fault affecting transmission. After this notification the flashing lights go out and we resort to conversation until the pigeon returns.

Nbn

National bloody nuisance.

An absolute joke. Was severely compromised from the get go. Whoever designed it was a nong. 

Spent 12 years as a systems engineer and our little band of brethren  even when i gave it away in 2005 could see its inbuilt limitations. Only stupidity and arrogance combined with ignorance has allowed it to still be happening. Should have chucked out and started again....(before they actually started )

Billions wasted.Beuracratic bs of highest order

4 hours ago, old dee said:

Correct  Dr. 

I would love to know how they decide but alas I think it will remain one of the wonders of the 21st Century.

Two words: marginal seats ....

3 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Nbn

National bloody nuisance.

An absolute joke. Was severely compromised from the get go. Whoever designed it was a nong. 

Spent 12 years as a systems engineer and our little band of brethren  even when i gave it away in 2005 could see its inbuilt limitations. Only stupidity and arrogance combined with ignorance has allowed it to still be happening. Should have chucked out and started again....(before they actually started )

Billions wasted.Beuracratic bs of highest order

The NBN system equivalent would be in place at least in the major cities and regional areas before now if we hadn't privatised Telstra in my humble opinion and at less cost. 

1 hour ago, Earl Hood said:

The NBN system equivalent would be in place at least in the major cities and regional areas before now if we hadn't privatised Telstra in my humble opinion and at less cost. 

not sure thats even relevant EH..the original engineering was crap..still is.

13 and no twist.