WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - JACK VINEY

[PaulRB 6,352]

Western Australia 2.2 7.3 9.6 11.9 (75)

Vic Metro 1.6 5.9 8.10 12.13 (85)

Goals

Western Australia: Yarran 3, Coniglio 2, Newman 2, Garlett 2, Eardley, Hamling

Vic Metro: Crozier 4, Patton 4, Viney, Tyson, Hoskin-Elliot, Bussey

Best

Western Australia: Coniglio, Bolger, Garlett, Newman, O'Meara, Nelson

Vic Metro: Patton, Viney , Longer, Crozier, Hoskin-Elliot, Greene

[Matt Demon 1,418]

Just about BOG according to Shifter. Amazing effort for a under age inside player. Can't wait to watch him run around live on Fox in a few weeks!

[Chelly 810]

An unbelievable performance from a young kid picking up 23 touches. He was in everything and also kicked a goal. Class!

[Whispering_Jack 29,812]

Apparently, he had more touches than any other player in the Vic Metro team although a couple of West Aussies including Coniglio had one or two more. I don't want to upset any of our posters by putting too much of a spin on his performance (after all, I was 3,400 km away) but you'd have to say on the evidence that it was better than ordinary!

[jacey 333]

1 Jack Viney

Kicks: 11

Handballs: 12

Dispoals: 23

Marks: 1

Tackles: 3

Frees For:1

Frees Against: 2

Goals: 1

Behinds: 0

Efficiency: 69%

23 possessions, 14 contested and eight clearances

Nice.

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Apparently, he had more touches than any other player in the Vic Metro team although a couple of West Aussies including Coniglio had one or two more. I don't want to upset any of our posters by putting too much of a spin on his performance (after all, I was 3,400 km away) but you'd have to say on the evidence that it was better than ordinary!

West Australians

http://www.afl.com.a...01/default.aspx

[Guest hangon007]

Vic Metro: Patton , Viney Crozier

C'mon CC & BP lets do it. Keep the kids in Victoria.

[Back Flanker 2]

I was at a wedding over the weekend and Bohdan Babijczuk was there. Naturally I spent the night harassing the poor bloke about all things Demons, and in particular I asked his opinion of Jack Viney. He said he will be a great player but he is in the process of changing the way he runs. Apparently his running style was leading to severe groin and other soft tissue related injuries. Bohdan told me that Todd specifically asked him to watch Jack in his games this year and his first comment was, "he will never last in AFL football unless he works very hard on changing his running style". I've never heard of this before but apparently it is very common in young players.

Anyway, he went on to explain that his performances may be up and down this year and not as good as we expected from his early assessments. But its great news to hear that they identified this early because the Demons are recruiting him regardless of his Vic Metro form as they know that he is working on this.

PS: I could start a new thread titled "my hazy recollections from annoying the hell out of Bohdan Babijczuk on Saturday night".

[Bang Bang Bang 5,803]

I thought Bohdan left the Dees ages ago.

[Back Flanker 2]

No, he is still Athletic Development Coach

[Rogue 585]

I was at a wedding over the weekend and Bohdan Babijczuk was there. Naturally I spent the night harassing the poor bloke about all things Demons

PS: I could start a new thread titled "my hazy recollections from annoying the hell out of Bohdan Babijczuk on Saturday night"

Haha, nice work.

Feel free to share anything else interesting

[Back Flanker 2]

Haha, nice work.

Feel free to share anything else interesting

Ok.. He said he is good friends with Malthouse, and he definately wants to continue coaching next year. He also said Scully is the best trainer he has ever seen, and he does not want to go to GWS. However the stongest talk he has heard around the corridoors is that Collingwood are trying to make a deal happen for him. He reckons Collingwood are secretly trying to trade for one of GWS low picks. Obviously that is just a rumour that he said was currently strong around the inner sanctum, so please don't everyone jump down my throat. But he was certain Scully would only go to a Victorian based club if he decided to leave, and that his management have told him not to sign until they know who is coaching Melbourne next year?

[Guest Artie Bucco]

Yes. That throws an interesting and valid element into the Scully equation.

He'd want to wait know who our coach will be, certainly.

Not something I'd thought of, but makes a lot of sense.

Thanks for your contribution flanker.

[JACKATTACK 17]

Ok.. He said he is good friends with Malthouse, and he definately wants to continue coaching next year. He also said Scully is the best trainer he has ever seen, and he does not want to go to GWS. However the stongest talk he has heard around the corridoors is that Collingwood are trying to make a deal happen for him. He reckons Collingwood are secretly trying to trade for one of GWS low picks. Obviously that is just a rumour that he said was currently strong around the inner sanctum, so please don't everyone jump down my throat. But he was certain Scully would only go to a Victorian based club if he decided to leave, and that his management have told him not to sign until they know who is coaching Melbourne next year?

Interesting, when you say: malthouse "definitely wants to continue coaching" did you mean at collingwood or elsewhere?

[Longsufferingnomore 1,631]

Ok.. He said he is good friends with Malthouse, and he definately wants to continue coaching next year. He also said Scully is the best trainer he has ever seen, and he does not want to go to GWS. However the stongest talk he has heard around the corridoors is that Collingwood are trying to make a deal happen for him. He reckons Collingwood are secretly trying to trade for one of GWS low picks. Obviously that is just a rumour that he said was currently strong around the inner sanctum, so please don't everyone jump down my throat. But he was certain Scully would only go to a Victorian based club if he decided to leave, and that his management have told him not to sign until they know who is coaching Melbourne next year?

Roost it reported hearing the same information that Tom was looking at possibly moving to a Melbourne based Club. I would rather see him go to GWS than to Collingwood.

[Captain Jack Jordan 32]

Maybe we shoiuld just give Malthouse a job as waterboy ,give Scully the captaincy and give everyone at Collingwood and Velocity sport and GWS a nice warm cup of go f#$% yourself by winning a flag .

[nutbean 8,838]

Roost it reported hearing the same information that Tom was looking at possibly moving to a Melbourne based Club. I would rather see him go to GWS than to Collingwood.

after malthouses article how its a disgrace that we can lose scully and then he goes to Collingwood ? hmmmm

[Striker475 696]

Interesting talk of JV on Footy Classified tonight - not sure whether they were wrong on the rules so clarify for me, if we do a deal with GWS in order to get JV to come as one of the 17-year-olds, will he be able to play in 2012? Opinion of G. Lyon was they could, but I was under the impression that he would not be able to play til 2013.

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Interesting talk of JV on Footy Classified tonight - not sure whether they were wrong on the rules so clarify for me, if we do a deal with GWS in order to get JV to come as one of the 17-year-olds, will he be able to play in 2012? Opinion of G. Lyon was they could, but I was under the impression that he would not be able to play til 2013.

I thought the same thing, Gary also mentioned at the end that it "was only a thought i had today"

[jayceebee31 759]

Interesting talk of JV on Footy Classified tonight - not sure whether they were wrong on the rules so clarify for me, if we do a deal with GWS in order to get JV to come as one of the 17-year-olds, will he be able to play in 2012? Opinion of G. Lyon was they could, but I was under the impression that he would not be able to play til 2013.

I believe you ae totally correct.

[jayceebee31 759]

Maybe we shoiuld just give Malthouse a job as waterboy ,give Scully the captaincy and give everyone at Collingwood and Velocity sport and GWS a nice warm cup of go f#$% yourself by winning a flag .

Wouldn't that be LOVELY.

[Pates 9,660]

I thought the same thing, Gary also mentioned at the end that it "was only a thought i had today"

From what Gary was saying it sounded like if GWS were entitled use to him and were able to trade him to us it makes him eligible to play for us. Sounds all a bit weird to me, i think we keep our eye on the prize for 2013.

[IWAP 170]

Gary has it slightly wrong, and I think Emma Quayle is the only journalist who has a proper understanding of the rule.

Clubs strike it rich on early calls

So we'd potentially be able to trade for him from GWS, but he wouldn't be eligible to play for us until 2013.

We would still need to trade something valuable (high pick/ decent player) to GWS to snare him under this rule.

[No16 1]

So if he can't play (only train and be around the club) why waste a highish pick or player to get him. He will be able to be around the club running around with his u18 side anyway....

[Guest Artie Bucco]

The interesting thing that I took out of this article on the afl website

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/116601/default.aspx

was the confirmation of trading for picks in a mini-draft, as opposed to trading for the rights to specific players

WA youngsters Jaeger O'Meara (22 possessions and six clearances), Dayle Garlett (two goals) and Chris Yarran (three) continued to impress, but are ineligible for this year's draft.

They can, however, enter a one-off draft during the 2011 trade period and join an AFL club a year before they would otherwise be eligible as part of GWS's concessions.

Players born between January 1 and April 30, 1994 are eligible for the 'mini draft', which will see clubs trade players to the new franchise in exchange for the right to select one of the 17-year-olds.  

Hence we could actually trade for one of those picks under the guise of taking Viney, then pinch another gun like O'Meara (seeing as we could still secure Viney F/S).

I imagine if we operated unde the premise of taking Viney and not weakening the following draft pool, GWS would trade a pick to us more cheaply (Bate, Dunn - who are both under contract for 2012, so can't be taken by GWS as an uncontracted player until next year).

Possibly.