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Fair dinkum. Why do so many here wake up in the morning, see grey skies and feel so down with no positive outlook?

Have faith in your club to make the right moves in the best interests of it's members/supporters.

We'll fight tooth and nail to keep our best players.

It's called Seasonal Affective Disorder.

I suggest some UV light therapy.

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i can just see melbourne rolling over and giving the old cliche 'oh, well tom is a great player but he is only 1 player and no 1 player is greater than the culture that we have developed at melbourne. We will move forward and seek to grab a star player with pick 17'. Such a thing bailey would say

Only you could get angry at Bailey for something he said that is only contained in your 'head movies.'

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No prizes for guessing what Jon Ralph was told to do by his boss.

"Ralphy, Melbourne have a tough run of games coming up against Carlton, Essendon and Collingwood and they are all in primetimeso everyone will see it. We need you to write some destabilising articles in the lead up so that we can run the 'Dees in crisis, sack Bailey' story for acouple of weeks."

The problem is that Ralph's articles have been so poor that it hasn't made any impact yet. But I can guarantee that the papers will follow this line because that's the way the footy media works. Especially in a low level tabloid like the Herald Sun.

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i can just see melbourne rolling over and giving the old cliche 'oh, well tom is a great player but he is only 1 player and no 1 player is greater than the culture that we have developed at melbourne. We will move forward and seek to grab a star player with pick 17'. Such a thing bailey would say

I'm so happy to see this sort of thing from you, the anti-prophet.

Nothing to worry about guys...

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So the broadcast deal has now been done. Yet we are not hearing that Scully has started negotiations with the club. The excuse that he will wait until the end of the season, backing himself to show outstanding form to up his value is wearing thin as in reality Scully will get a monster contract for his age, his form this season will now make little difference to his perceived value and next contract. This is starting to undermine the club.

We all know that all that is required is for Scully or his manager to come out and say. "Tom wishes to continue his career with the MFC, subject to contract agreement." or something along these lines. Yet this is not happening.

Personally I don't believe that GWS has not approach Tom or his manager. Of course they would have. At the very least they would have made an inquiry. The club is clearly very concerned that Tom is going otherwise they would not have put Stynes in to try and get an answer. Tom gave the line he has been told to by him manager. "No I have not been approached". It is a lie and means nothing.

The evidence that Tom is leaving is becoming compelling. I think it is time we accepted this. It pains me to say this but looking at the evidence it would seem he is gone.

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So the broadcast deal has now been done. Yet we are not hearing that Scully has started negotiations with the club. The excuse that he will wait until the end of the season, backing himself to show outstanding form to up his value is wearing thin as in reality Scully will get a monster contract for his age, his form this season will now make little difference to his perceived value and next contract. This is starting to undermine the club.

We all know that all that is required is for Scully or his manager to come out and say. "Tom wishes to continue his career with the MFC, subject to contract agreement." or something along these lines. Yet this is not happening.

Personally I don't believe that GWS has not approach Tom or his manager. Of course they would have. At the very least they would have made an inquiry. The club is clearly very concerned that Tom is going otherwise they would not have put Stynes in to try and get an answer. Tom gave the line he has been told to by him manager. "No I have not been approached". It is a lie and means nothing.

The evidence that Tom is leaving is becoming compelling. I think it is time we accepted this. It pains me to say this but looking at the evidence it would seem he is gone.

Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) is what you are thinking of. Might want to edit.

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So the broadcast deal has now been done. Yet we are not hearing that Scully has started negotiations with the club. The excuse that he will wait until the end of the season, backing himself to show outstanding form to up his value is wearing thin as in reality Scully will get a monster contract for his age, his form this season will now make little difference to his perceived value and next contract. This is starting to undermine the club.

They are waiting for the CBA which is the wash up of the TV rights so the above is not correct.

We all know that all that is required is for Scully or his manager to come out and say. "Tom wishes to continue his career with the MFC, subject to contract agreement." or something along these lines. Yet this is not happening.

He has said that he wants to stay at MFC!

Personally I don't believe that GWS has not approach Tom or his manager. Of course they would have. At the very least they would have made an inquiry. The club is clearly very concerned that Tom is going otherwise they would not have put Stynes in to try and get an answer. Tom gave the line he has been told to by him manager. "No I have not been approached". It is a lie and means nothing.

You are entitled to your opinion but you DON'T KNOW THIS.

The evidence that Tom is leaving is becoming compelling. I think it is time we accepted this. It pains me to say this but looking at the evidence it would seem he is gone.

Perhaps, but overall your post is as loose as a goose.

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when does the collective baragining agreement get finalised anyway? I thought i heard that it wouldnt be done in time for contract end date anyway?

It's been in the news recently, the AFL Players Association wants a greater share of the 1.25 billion.

It's more a case of starting negotiations than 'finalising' negotiations...

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when does the collective baragining agreement get finalised anyway? I thought i heard that it wouldnt be done in time for contract end date anyway?

And the current CBA ends the very same second Tom Scully's contract is up.

So that would be a no...

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when does the collective baragining agreement get finalised anyway? I thought i heard that it wouldnt be done in time for contract end date anyway?

The current CBA will run for a period of five years between 1 November 2006 until 31 October 2011. The agreement will continue to apply after this date until a new agreement is struck between the AFL and the AFLPA. However if both the AFL and AFLPA cannot negotiate a new agreement by 30 June 2011 or a later agreed date, either party may give 30 days notice to terminate the existing agreement provided this notice doesn’t take effect before 1 November 2011.

CBA

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I just assume he'll go. GWS can see what we're building and that old [censored] Sheedy would love nothing more than hurting us. I think Scully is one of the main targets and the offer will be to big to refuse. Hopefully I'm wrong but if I'm not it won't be the end of the world. Ablett left Geelong and they haven't dropped a game.

Yep. He would also rejoice in helping his 'Old' club, hit back into the Big time... And Sculls is a diehard Tiger. Geez, I hope I'm all wrong about this, but one has to trust in their 'gut' felling.

I hope the playing group, can convince one another, to stick together.

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i can just see melbourne rolling over and giving the old cliche 'oh, well tom is a great player but he is only 1 player and no 1 player is greater than the culture that we have developed at melbourne. We will move forward and seek to grab a star player with pick 17'. Such a thing bailey would say

Your only positive is that you maintain your special standard level.

Any updates on the Gold Coast real estate market?

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Yep. He would also rejoice in helping his 'Old' club, hit back into the Big time... And Sculls is a diehard Tiger. Geez, I hope I'm all wrong about this, but one has to trust in their 'gut' felling.

I hope the playing group, can convince one another, to stick together.

So Sheedy, the coach of the new AFL side in Sydney is conspiring to get Scully to Richmond, a team he has had no involvement with for 30 years????

I want what you’re on.

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After all the discussion on this. The club may not have a choice if Scully has already signed with GWS. And if the $$$$ stated are right then how can MFC match the offer? I have no doubt MFC are doing all in its power to secure Scully and I hope they do. But your claim of "negligence" is naive of the situation that MFC/Scully is in.

He hasn't signed with GWS. He is the one player on our list who has the potential to be truly elite. The club must retain him. If it doesn't I stand by my call that it's negligent by 1. Not providing an attractive enough offer and/or 2. Not providing an attractive enough workplace to be able to lose a player of Scully's ability to shitsville.

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Yep. He would also rejoice in helping his 'Old' club, hit back into the Big time... And Sculls is a diehard Tiger. Geez, I hope I'm all wrong about this, but one has to trust in their 'gut' felling.

I hope the playing group, can convince one another, to stick together.

Lol jesus christ the quality of posting has declined over the past few years

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Yep. He would also rejoice in helping his 'Old' club, hit back into the Big time... And Sculls is a diehard Tiger. Geez, I hope I'm all wrong about this, but one has to trust in their 'gut' felling.

I hope the playing group, can convince one another, to stick together.

Now there are 11 pages of dribble on a topic that no one knows what is really going on. I am amazed. Again your name says it all.

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