Herald Sun on Bailey & MFC

[beelzebub 22,759]

I am, because rnd 6 is way too early to be officially meeting on this. For Christ give the guy a crack at turning it around before acting on a knee-jerk reaction to a poor start to the season, you think Geelong would won the premiership with bomber if their board had had the same patience as you?

Don't get me wrong I'm not letting Bailey off the hook, but to do what you're asking will only lead to destablisation at the club. And a fair proportion of the blame should be going on the players. I'm sick of hearing words like "shattered" and"disappointed", I want them to get [censored] off and angry! I still think they can turn this around, but it'll required the players getting their heads the right place, beacue we've seen they can ccompete, it's all there, they just seem so down on confidence.

I dont think hes got the mongrel for this position. His little jaunt around the boundary line for the media seemed far too comfortable...a pleasant diversion. Insert a Malthouse,a Roos..even a Jimmy Hird and there wouldnt have been any bounce in their step , there would have been a steely glare and circumspect comments..the bare minimum...not so for our Dean.

Turn it around ?? ffs turn it up. He hasnt just arirved yesterday...this is his 4th bloody rear at this and were really not much better for it. Yes much ought to levied at the players but who's job is it to gett t he players going ?? There's a mailaise at Melbourne. There was also the same disease at Windy Hill ... but the understood the ailment and sought a cure. So should we.

[DemonOX 8,578]

Rogue doesn't seem to be around so I'd better fill in.

This is a straw man.

All I am saying is that the coach (if you can call him that)should be a discussion point at the board meeting. FFS they dont have to make a decision but at least discuss it.

[Sir Why You Little 35,355]

Epitome of fickle.

After stating a love fest for Bailey last season, its laughable how the worm has turned.

No. It is you letting a department off way too easily Rhino. There comes a time when action speaks louder than words.

I have always been a Bailey fan, but he has to take his coaching to the next level now, and it is this year we will find out if he has the mental strength to do it.

[beelzebub 22,759]

No. It is you letting a department off way too easily Rhino. There comes a time when action speaks louder than words.

I have always been a Bailey fan, but he has to take his coaching to the next level now, and it is this year we will find out if he has the mental strength to do it.

more the point...has he the abilty ?

[Sir Why You Little 35,355]

more the point...has he the abilty ?

Ability will come from mental strength BB, if it is there.

Bailey is a smart man, but can he lift his own efforts to inspire our entire list? If he can he keeps his job.

[Heart Beats True 568]

Here is another article today in the HS from Robbo talking about Bailey and possible replacements - http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/tackle

Seems like the deserved media pressure is building.

[beelzebub 22,759]

Ability will come from mental strength BB, if it is there.

Bailey is a smart man, but can he lift his own efforts to inspire our entire list? If he can he keeps his job.

youll think im splitting hairs here but i consider mental toughness and ability as to widely differing things.

You can have ability and not the fortitude or conviction to act upon it.

Youcan be tough as nails and over the top we go stuff but not have the nous as to when to duck your head !

He can be as resilient as the Pyramids but if deep down there isnt what it takes to lift his coaching way above the current mediocre into 'success' it will mean nothing.

I dont doubt he has smarts...but does he have ability. I havent seen any true ability at coaching displayed yet. Have seen no masterstrokes mid game, have seen no walls particularly shored up when a dam threatened to crack..Ive seen Melbourne run over any number of times. Ive seen Demon teams with hunched shoulders ( as did Bailey have at games end) . He got us through the maze of 'game management' but in hindsight was this as much luck as real direction ?..After all doesnt take a genius to lose a game...but win them ??

I have liked him..I still like him...just havent any faith currently thathe's an able coach , let alone the one for us .

[Sir Why You Little 35,355]

youll think im splitting hairs here but i consider mental toughness and ability as to widely differing things.

You can have ability and not the fortitude or conviction to act upon it.

Youcan be tough as nails and over the top we go stuff but not have the nous as to when to duck your head !

He can be as resilient as the Pyramids but if deep down there isnt what it takes to lift his coaching way above the current mediocre into 'success' it will mean nothing.

I dont doubt he has smarts...but does he have ability. I havent seen any true ability at coaching displayed yet. Have seen no masterstrokes mid game, have seen no walls particularly shored up when a dam threatened to crack..Ive seen Melbourne run over any number of times. Ive seen Demon teams with hunched shoulders ( as did Bailey have at games end) . He got us through the maze of 'game management' but in hindsight was this as much luck as real direction ?..After all doesnt take a genius to lose a game...but win them ??

I have liked him..I still like him...just havent any faith currently thathe's an able coach , let alone the one for us .

I agree with your words BB..Let me clarify what i mean.

If Dean Bailey has the mental toughness he will demand that the "extra" ability is extracted from those players.

I am not talking about just words, but as you say the "inner strength" and resilience. It is now that that Dean needs to show it.

If he can do that...he is in fact a good coach. We will find out the answer in the next four weeks.

[Hannabal 4]

For some reason whenever I think of Bailey I think of Brian Taylor's funny quip on Foxtel from the Brisbane game.

The camera scanned to Bailey coaching on the sidelines and leaning on one of the shelters. I believe we were behind at the time. Taylor mused "Dean looks like he's waiting for a bus".

It sort of summed things up for me.

[beelzebub 22,759]

The bus is coming !

[Kento80 83]

For some reason whenever I think of Bailey I think of Brian Taylor's funny quip on Foxtel from the Brisbane game.

The camera scanned to Bailey coaching on the sidelines and leaning on one of the shelters. I believe we were behind at the time. Taylor mused "Dean looks like he's waiting for a bus".

It sort of summed things up for me.

Lmao :)