not as bad as the old 20 year 'record' of no wins down at the Cattery...

We won down there about 7 years ago I reckon. Egan I think it was had a shot after the siren. I remember it well, before that was about 17 years.

Fire Up Demons.....i am expecting a VICTRY on thursday.

Wet Coke were Wooden Spooners in 2010.

This is a development game, yes. Developing a winning attitude on the Road.

These are the games that if won can be the difference between making the 8 or not.

After watching most of the footy on the past weekend...we can win the next 3 matches if the attitude upstairs is right.

11 years since we Beat Wet Coke over there....What a disgraceful Stat that is....i hope Bails is aware of that one.

I hope you're right about victory, and I do believe we can beat them. I am not so sure our players BELIEVE they can beat them at the moment. Hopefully the break has given them a different perspective. As for them being wooden spooners last year, we were wooden spooners the year before and then came 10th last year, so it really has no direct relation to Thursdays result. All that matters is how the players are playing this year, and in this case, they seem to be a bit ahead of the curve and we seem to be hovering on or slightly behind it. By no means do I think we will get smashed, but if we do win, it will give a terrific account of where we are at and the desire for success of our players.

I hope you're right about victory, and I do believe we can beat them. I am not so sure our players BELIEVE they can beat them at the moment. Hopefully the break has given them a different perspective. As for them being wooden spooners last year, we were wooden spooners the year before and then came 10th last year, so it really has no direct relation to Thursdays result. All that matters is how the players are playing this year, and in this case, they seem to be a bit ahead of the curve and we seem to be hovering on or slightly behind it. By no means do I think we will get smashed, but if we do win, it will give a terrific account of where we are at and the desire for success of our players.

You are too soft Kent, there is no excuse that our Team should not BELIEVE it can win. To win the MFC has to play good football, each player has to be prepared to run and work hard.

Wet Coke took out the WOODEN SPOON last year, thus we should not fear them in any way. Some of you guys on here will accept a "development game" for the next Decade!! Yes we need to get game time into our young players, but i think Wet Coke are in the same position....

This is a game we can win.

You are too soft Kent, there is no excuse that our Team should not BELIEVE it can win. To win the MFC has to play good football, each player has to be prepared to run and work hard.

Wet Coke took out the WOODEN SPOON last year, thus we should not fear them in any way. Some of you guys on here will accept a "development game" for the next Decade!! Yes we need to get game time into our young players, but i think Wet Coke are in the same position....

This is a game we can win.

WYL it is a must for me.

It will mean we have improved on last year.

WYL it is a must for me.

It will mean we have improved on last year.

Absolutely...and it is what Jimma said at the AGM last year...."We all must improve"

I'm perfectly happy for us to go in as underdogs on Thursday... seeing them go into the game over confident and expecting it to be easy could be all that is needed to fire up our boys and catch them off guard.

I'm perfectly happy for us to go in as underdogs on Thursday... seeing them go into the game over confident and expecting it to be easy could be all that is needed to fire up our boys and catch them off guard.

Ideally we will have enough amo from the result last year at the 'G.

We owe them for that but I'm not sure we are a hardened enough side to beat a below average interstate team away let alone a decent one.

The WC forwards have had a much better start to the season than some of our defenders, an area I thought we would never go backwards in but at this stage we have. Chips injury, Grimes a bit dicey with the ball and Garland, although pretty solid, has looked a little less unsure than what I've seen over the past 12 mths or so. (I'm not concerned about this and have absolute faith in the guys like Chip, Garland, Grimes with the addition of Tapscott, to sort this area out quickly. It would be nice if it clicks against an in form group on Thurs)

I'll be pleasantly surprised if we win this game, somewhat happy if it is a good contest.

Can we please not start Rivers on Kennedy again and let him get off to a flyer like last year. Riv has been in good form, but is too slow on the lead for JK, and may be better suited using his experience on Darling. Garland goes to JK, and Chippa to the big Q.

I'm quietly confident.

Looking forward to seeing the side, whether they will make any changes and bring in some runners for that ground.

Jerry: I like it.

Luke Tapscott will have a great game.....Tuesday Prediction number 1. B)

sure, west coast have improved, which was to be expected, yet i cannot see us losing this match even if it is up there.

i think their forward line nearly matches up perfectly with our backline, as we have 3 good tall defenders, and it is ideal as they do not have the speed in their forwardline to trouble us as much, it is like our matchup last year with brisbane, although they had fevola, brown and clark up forward, we had the match ups for them and we beat them by 50 points, all be it at the g.

i also think our forward line is too flexible for their defence, and that with them not having Beau waters it is a massive loss.

and i think our midfield is stronger, and use the ball better.

jamar vs cox } cox will struggle against a proper ruckman.

martin vs naitanui } could be our worst match up but even still if it is only one match up over the field i am not too stressed.

the main advantage they have is the crowd, if we can get up early, and take them out of the game, i can see us running away with a 5-6 goal win, having said that, we will need a solid 4 qtr effort, but our best football is streets ahead of their best, and our worst football is below their average, so we will need to be on!

Weagles would have to go in as favourites. However, if we can get over them we we will make the 8 IMO. I think we can cover them over all aspects of the ground.GO DEES.

Petterd has to play.

You are too soft Kent, there is no excuse that our Team should not BELIEVE it can win. To win the MFC has to play good football, each player has to be prepared to run and work hard.

Wet Coke took out the WOODEN SPOON last year, thus we should not fear them in any way. Some of you guys on here will accept a "development game" for the next Decade!! Yes we need to get game time into our young players, but i think Wet Coke are in the same position....

This is a game we can win.

No mate, I am not too soft. I hate that I think they don't believe they can win, but unfortunately that is my impression atm. This is by no means an excuse for them but a judgement. If players don't believe they can win, they don't run and work hard, and this is where I believe we are lacking so far this year. As I said I hope they have had seismic shifts in their mindsets and change my opinion this Thursday. We shouldn't fear WC, but that by no means says our players don't. I also am not an acceptor of "development games", it is a fair excuse to a certain point, but not any more. This is a game we can win, and at the end of it all on Thursday, we will know just how much our players WANT to win. I think we SHOULD win, and if we don't, my blood pressure is going to rise dramatically

To me it seems that good play by Cox, Darling and Embley has resulted in skewed thoughts about WCE being a good team. Thoughts?

I've always thought the Weagles had a very young team and midfield but i just had a look and their midfield is pretty seasoned.

Priddis, Kerr, Embley, Adam Selwood, Matt Rosa, Sam Butler/Bradd Dalziell been around for a few years.

Gaff And Shuey are nice additions though. Like Scott Selwood too.

I've always thought the Weagles had a very young team and midfield but i just had a look and their midfield is pretty seasoned.

Priddis, Kerr, Embley, Adam Selwood, Matt Rosa, Sam Butler/Bradd Dalziell been around for a few years.

Gaff And Shuey are nice additions though. Like Scott Selwood too.

agreed but i dont see them beating a midfield of

Moloney, Sylvia, Davey, Jones, Trengove, Bail, Gysberts, With Morton/Bennell running through!

The way we're running, and how we look flat footed after less than a half... they'll run us off our feet at Pattersons.

No mate, I am not too soft. I hate that I think they don't believe they can win, but unfortunately that is my impression atm. This is by no means an excuse for them but a judgement. If players don't believe they can win, they don't run and work hard, and this is where I believe we are lacking so far this year. As I said I hope they have had seismic shifts in their mindsets and change my opinion this Thursday. We shouldn't fear WC, but that by no means says our players don't. I also am not an acceptor of "development games", it is a fair excuse to a certain point, but not any more. This is a game we can win, and at the end of it all on Thursday, we will know just how much our players WANT to win. I think we SHOULD win, and if we don't, my blood pressure is going to rise dramatically

Maybe the MFC boys need to take a look at our President Jimmy Stynes short hair to remind them what he has been through.

If our team does not BELIEVE it can win our entire coaching staff are failing in their job. I hear what you are saying Kent, but i will not accept it as an excuse any more.

We must travel to Subiaco with a strong mindset..There are very good players in our team now, sure we are not at full strength, but what team is? Why should we fear WC? 7 months ago they finished bottom of the ladder. I hope our senior players remember last years game at the 'G and say F$%^K that.

Maybe the MFC boys need to take a look at our President Jimmy Stynes short hair to remind them what he has been through.

If our team does not BELIEVE it can win our entire coaching staff are failing in their job. I hear what you are saying Kent, but i will not accept it as an excuse any more.

We must travel to Subiaco with a strong mindset..There are very good players in our team now, sure we are not at full strength, but what team is? Why should we fear WC? 7 months ago they finished bottom of the ladder. I hope our senior players remember last years game at the 'G and say F$%^K that.

Yep, you're right mate. I've mentioned it before on this forum somewhere and will again. The game after Jimmy announced his cancer on 3rd July 2009 round 14 (against WC funnily enough) was one that will linger in my memory for the ferocity the boys played with, and history will show that we won by 20pts. Now I know we had a few older, more experienced players, but the point I am trying to make is to do with attitude. There was no way known to man that they were going to let anyone beat them that day. I deadset reckon we would have given Geelong a solid run on that occasion. Now why they can't go out playing with that unflinching will to win every week, I do not know. But as you said, I will not accept it as an excuse anymore either. My problem is that it doesn't matter whether we accept it or not, the issue is entirely whether the players, coaching staff, FD and administration accept it. And to me, by not finding a way to fix it, they accept it. Tomorrow night will answer a lot of questions I have about the rest of this season. Enough games have gone under the bridge now that they should be playing to their current ability. Therefore if we don't win, it better be bloody close, and one hell of a game.

Yep, you're right mate. I've mentioned it before on this forum somewhere and will again. The game after Jimmy announced his cancer on 3rd July 2009 round 14 (against WC funnily enough) was one that will linger in my memory for the ferocity the boys played with, and history will show that we won by 20pts. Now I know we had a few older, more experienced players, but the point I am trying to make is to do with attitude. There was no way known to man that they were going to let anyone beat them that day. I deadset reckon we would have given Geelong a solid run on that occasion. Now why they can't go out playing with that unflinching will to win every week, I do not know. But as you said, I will not accept it as an excuse anymore either. My problem is that it doesn't matter whether we accept it or not, the issue is entirely whether the players, coaching staff, FD and administration accept it. And to me, by not finding a way to fix it, they accept it. Tomorrow night will answer a lot of questions I have about the rest of this season. Enough games have gone under the bridge now that they should be playing to their current ability. Therefore if we don't win, it better be bloody close, and one hell of a game.

Damn straight!

Weagles would have to go in as favourites. However, if we can get over them we we will make the 8 IMO. I think we can cover them over all aspects of the ground.GO DEES.

There's not much in it in terms of people being willing to part with the needful. The Dees are 7.5pts in at the $1.91 line. Straight out $2.15 and $1.75.

There's not much in it in terms of people being willing to part with the needful. The Dees are 7.5pts in at the $1.91 line. Straight out $2.15 and $1.75.

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