Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/dean-bailey-reveals-great-regret/story-e6frf9jf-1226004047912

I know this is about something that the club handled poorly, but I can't help gaining more respect for Bailey reading this.

And I feel gutted for Junior.

I didn't realise it was such a shock to him.

What a class act to handle it the way he did.

James is a magnificent character. He wore the disappointment on his face, but never slagged off the club, publicly or privately.

I agree it is good that Bailey has come out and admitted fault. Hopefully demonstrates insight and learning. But let's face it, on his own account, he is not the only one who stuffed up.

The fact we can treat a magnificent character that poorly despite all the advisors, etc... raises some questions.

Posted

Surprised about the way it was handled. Kudos for Bailey coming out feeling regret. But more admiration for Junior the way he handled it.

Posted

Is he saying this to send a message to Tom that it won't happen again to other players?

McDonald is a champion, he should be still with the club in some role. Very disappointing that we have lost him to GWS.

Posted (edited)

No footballer likes being told their time is up and he was given the word at the start of the season .

It won't be the last lesson Bailey learns during his coaching career either .

Edited by Fork 'em

Posted

Shows the measure of the man - Junior - the way he handled it

Also shows the measure of the man - Bails - that he can put his hand and say - we didnt handle it correctly

Posted

I'm sure that I heard either Parkin or Walls talknig about that their only regret in footy was the way they let blokes know that their careers' were over. Hated it, worst part of the job and one that is very hard to get 'right' while having many ways to get wrong.

Posted

Shows the measure of the man - Junior - the way he handled it

Also shows the measure of the man - Bails - that he can put his hand and say - we didnt handle it correctly

Totally agree.

Whats more its a sign of the maturity of our club.

Junior is one of the games true gentlemen and a champion.


Posted

Totally agree.

Whats more its a sign of the maturity of our club.

Junior is one of the games true gentlemen and a champion.

Given all this, I'm not sure why there is/was no role found for Junior moving forward. Galling to me that he has found his way to GWS, no matter how minor the role

Posted

Given all this, I'm not sure why there is/was no role found for Junior moving forward. Galling to me that he has found his way to GWS, no matter how minor the role

Well, given MFC have just gotten out of debt, and GWS have more money than God, it's not terribly surprising.

Posted

Given all this, I'm not sure why there is/was no role found for Junior moving forward. Galling to me that he has found his way to GWS, no matter how minor the role

I think most AFL players, once they have completed their playing career, endeavour to get away from their club for a while (if they can) to experience a different environment.

Football clubs can be very insular.

Exposure to different styles and ways of thinking can be very beneficial.

Very few don't take this path.

Posted

Given all this, I'm not sure why there is/was no role found for Junior moving forward. Galling to me that he has found his way to GWS, no matter how minor the role

Junior was at MFC for 14 years, i think it's great he is working at another club for a year or two. Learn from new people, he can teach new people-Grow as a person.

I have no doubt Junior will be back working at the MFC within 5 years. He is one of our True Champs

Posted

Even Robert Harvey went to the Blues for a couple of years before going back to the Aints .

Posted

Ratten came to us before going back to the Blues.

Adam Simpson left North and went straight into a role at the Hawks.

Brendon Lade went straight to Richmond.

Damien Hardwick went straight to Hawthorn.

Dean Wallis went to Freo, now back at Essendon.

Chris Scott went to Freo.

Brad Scott to Collingwood then North.

Wellman went to the doggies then us, before going back to Essendon.

Viney was at Hawthorn and Adelaide before coming back to us.

O'Bree left the pies and went straight to GC.

Burton left Adelaide for Brisbane.

It's just how it goes - footballers careers end and the majority move on immediately.

For a while Sheedy retained a lot of former players as assistants, but that was the exception to the rule.

Posted

If you remember that press conference when junior announced his retirement I don't remember Bailey being there....stynes was there...don't remember the footy department being represented...is this right?

Guest Rojik of the Arctic
Posted
It's just how it goes - footballers careers end and the majority move on immediately.

I think you really need to if you are going to learn new perspectives on things.

Posted

Bailey's not perfect. As remorseful as he indicates, he is a repeat offender in the way he mistreats people of significance around the club. Chris Johnson, James, Cameron Bruce, can all tell similar stories. It can be argued the right decision was made in each case, but it takes another skill to do it well so that you don't lose players and families when we are rebuilding not just a team but a club. Bails get a mentor and you will be a better man for it. Most good leaders do it. Lesser leaders don't think they need it.


Posted (edited)

Chris Johnson ... please , he deserved a send off spray .

His old man was significant .

Bruce demanded another year on his contract , the boss said no , tough .

Junior was told by Bailey at the start of the season it would be his last .

Unfortunately he didn't believe him .

Bailey hasn't made a bad list decision yet and I personally hope he remains ruthless .

Being nice has got the club no-where .

Edited by Fork 'em
Posted

Chris Johnson ... please , he deserved a send off spray .

His old man was significant .

Bruce demanded another year on his contract , the boss said no , tough .

Junior was told by Bailey at the start of the season it would be his last .

Unfortunately he didn't believe him .

Bailey hasn't made a bad list decision yet and I personally hope he remains ruthless .

Being nice has got the club no-where .

Fully agree with all of the above. It worked for Malthouse, and player transition to retirement is no less sensitve than for the rest of the workforce - it just happens sooner for them. Junior has done the right thing going to GWS - back at the 'G within 3 years IMO. - Not that Sheedy will teach him anything about good list management, but they will benfit from the player mentoring/welfare aspect Junior will bring to them.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    2024 Player Reviews: #36 Kysaiah Pickett

    The Demons’ aggressive small forward who kicks goals and defends the Demons’ ball in the forward arc. When he’s on song, he’s unstoppable but he did blot his copybook with a three week suspension in the final round. Date of Birth: 2 June 2001 Height: 171cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 106 Goals MFC 2024: 36 Career Total: 161 Brownlow Medal Votes: 3 Melbourne Football Club: 4th Best & Fairest: 369 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Friday 15th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers took advantage of the beautiful sunshine to head down to Gosch's Paddock and witness the return of Clayton Oliver to club for his first session in the lead up to the 2025 season. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Clarry in the house!! Training: JVR, McVee, Windsor, Tholstrup, Woey, Brown, Petty, Adams, Chandler, Turner, Bowey, Seston, Kentfield, Laurie, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers, Jefferson, Hore, Howes, Verrall, AMW, Clarry Tom Campbell is here

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #7 Jack Viney

    The tough on baller won his second Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Trophy in a narrow battle with skipper Max Gawn and Alex Neal-Bullen and battled on manfully in the face of a number of injury niggles. Date of Birth: 13 April 1994 Height: 178cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 219 Goals MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 66 Brownlow Medal Votes: 8

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 3

    TRAINING: Wednesday 13th November 2024

    A couple of Demonland Trackwatchers braved the rain and headed down to Gosch's paddock to bring you their observations from the second day of Preseason training for the 1st to 4th Year players. DITCHA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I attended some of the training today. Richo spoke to me and said not to believe what is in the media, as we will good this year. Jefferson and Kentfield looked big and strong.  Petty was doing all the training. Adams looked like he was in rehab.  KE

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #15 Ed Langdon

    The Demon running machine came back with a vengeance after a leaner than usual year in 2023.  Date of Birth: 1 February 1996 Height: 182cm Games MFC 2024: 22 Career Total: 179 Goals MFC 2024: 9 Career Total: 76 Brownlow Medal Votes: 5 Melbourne Football Club: 5th Best & Fairest: 352 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 8

    2024 Player Reviews: #24 Trent Rivers

    The premiership defender had his best year yet as he was given the opportunity to move into the midfield and made a good fist of it. Date of Birth: 30 July 2001 Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 100 Goals MFC 2024: 2 Career Total:  9 Brownlow Medal Votes: 7 Melbourne Football Club: 6th Best & Fairest: 350 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 2

    TRAINING: Monday 11th November 2024

    Veteran Demonland Trackwatchers Kev Martin, Slartibartfast & Demon Wheels were on hand at Gosch's Paddock to kick off the official first training session for the 1st to 4th year players with a few elder statesmen in attendance as well. KEV MARTIN'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Beautiful morning. Joy all round, they look like they want to be there.  21 in the squad. Looks like the leadership group is TMac, Viney Chandler and Petty. They look like they have sli

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 2

    2024 Player Reviews: #1 Steven May

    The years are rolling by but May continued to be rock solid in a key defensive position despite some injury concerns. He showed great resilience in coming back from a nasty rib injury and is expected to continue in that role for another couple of seasons. Date of Birth: 10 January 1992 Height: 193cm Games MFC 2024: 19 Career Total: 235 Goals MFC 2024: 1 Career Total: 24 Melbourne Football Club: 9th Best & Fairest: 316 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 3

    2024 Player Reviews: #4 Judd McVee

    It was another strong season from McVee who spent most of his time mainly at half back but he also looked at home on a few occasions when he was moved into the midfield. There could be more of that in 2025. Date of Birth: 7 August 2003 Height: 185cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 48 Goals MFC 2024: 1 Career Total: 1 Brownlow Medal Votes: 1 Melbourne Football Club: 7th Best & Fairest: 347 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!
×
×
  • Create New...