Garry Lyon: Brad Green Rewarded For Courage

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http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/sport/afl/news//blog/lyon-gutsy-green-deserves-top-gig/20110128-b8av.html

[jayceebee31 761]

And very interesting to note tha he stated that Grimes is NO certainty to become captain.

[needafullback 82]

Spot on Garry. Not every player is expected to throw themselves into dangerous situations; but the captain is. Having a captain who sets an example by fearless attack on the ball is essential. Davey, as important a player as he is, simply does not do this. Nor do I particularly want him to. I remember once against Brisbane at the 'G Davey stuck one arm out going backwards into a marking content, avoided body contact, but controlled the ball in front of him when he landed, swooped on it and kicked a goal. Beauty. We get a goal and he remains uninjured. I'd expect the captain though to go back full bore and take the mark with both hands, getting crunched if necessary. Junior would do this. Nietz would do this. Lyon would do this. Green will do this.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Spot on Garry. Not every player is expected to throw themselves into dangerous situations; but the captain is. Having a captain who sets an example by fearless attack on the ball is essential. Davey, as important a player as he is, simply does not do this. Nor do I particularly want him to. I remember once against Brisbane at the 'G Davey stuck one arm out going backwards into a marking content, avoided body contact, but controlled the ball in front of him when he landed, swooped on it and kicked a goal. Beauty. We get a goal and he remains uninjured. I'd expect the captain though to go back full bore and take the mark with both hands, getting crunched if necessary. Junior would do this. Nietz would do this. Lyon would do this. Green will do this.

Yep, precisely.

[Sir Why You Little 37,134]

Agree with all G. Lyon said there. The day Brad Broke his jaw in 2009 against Richmond was the day he got the Captaincy for mine.

This was one of the few Games of that Hideous time in History that we HAD to win, and were expected to do so, & Brad put himself on the line for it.

Brad Green will be a Fine Captain. He will teach and back his deputies at the same time.

Can't wait for this 2011 season to start. B)

[DeeSpencer 26,083]

And very interesting to note tha he stated that Grimes is NO certainty to become captain.

Don't really see that as interesting. Of course Grimes is no certainty because it's footy and their are 1000 variables. There are so many possibilities that could stop Grimes being captain but overall I'd say the main threat to Grimes being the next captain is Tom Scully, who on training work rate alone would have to be considered for the leadership group in the next couple of years.

[Chelly 827]

Don't really see that as interesting. Of course Grimes is no certainty because it's footy and their are 1000 variables. There are so many possibilities that could stop Grimes being captain but overall I'd say the main threat to Grimes being the next captain is Tom Scully, who on training work rate alone would have to be considered for the leadership group in the next couple of years.

Why concern ourselves with who's going to be the next captain when we've just appointed a bloke who should hold the post for at least three years?

Congratulations to Brad and incidentally, what a sensible decision he made to stay with the club two years ago! It's paid dividends to him on a personal level and for the club as well. Let's hope that others also take note.

[John Crow Batty 8,879]

Why concern ourselves with who's going to be the next captain when we've just appointed a bloke who should hold the post for at least three years?

Congratulations to Brad and incidentally, what a sensible decision he made to stay with the club two years ago! It's paid dividends to him on a personal level and for the club as well. Let's hope that others also take note.

I second that.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

And very interesting to note tha he stated that Grimes is NO certainty to become captain.

Finally. Someone with credibility says it. The "grimes for captain in 2011" movement is completely fan and forum driven. He's certainly a leader and a credit to the team and recruiting staff, but fair go... If they selected him now, it would have been a colossal error. And saying any captaincy is certain is absurd.

Don't really see that as interesting.

I reckon irbid mostly because some overly zealous posters need to be reminded of their place. beyond land and ology, you may have a point.

Why concern ourselves with who's going to be the next captain

Because it's fun? Speculating and predicting is what footy forums feed off. Also, brad's no spring chicken. I'm not saying he's a caretaker but we could easily be having te conversation for real in 3 years. Which is nothing in footy.

[H_T 3,049]

Finally. Someone with credibility says it. The "grimes for captain in 2011" movement is completely fan and forum driven. He's certainly a leader and a credit to the team and recruiting staff, but fair go... If they selected him now, it would have been a colossal error. And saying any captaincy is certain is absurd.

I reckon irbid mostly because some overly zealous posters need to be reminded of their place. beyond land and ology, you may have a point.

Because it's fun? Speculating and predicting is what footy forums feed off. Also, brad's no spring chicken. I'm not saying he's a caretaker but we could easily be having te conversation for real in 3 years. Which is nothing in footy.

I think quite a large percentage in fact went for Green to be Captain. Even in both forums. Hardly a "movement" for Grimes to be Captain in 2011.

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Bring on season 2011!

Congrats Mr Green!

Is it just me, or that could Green play out of the square untill he is 34-35? like a brad johnson type?

[dee-luded 2,959]

Spot on Garry. Not every player is expected to throw themselves into dangerous situations; but the captain is. Having a captain who sets an example by fearless attack on the ball is essential. Davey, as important a player as he is, simply does not do this. Nor do I particularly want him to. I remember once against Brisbane at the 'G Davey stuck one arm out going backwards into a marking content, avoided body contact, but controlled the ball in front of him when he landed, swooped on it and kicked a goal. Beauty. We get a goal and he remains uninjured. I'd expect the captain though to go back full bore and take the mark with both hands, getting crunched if necessary. Junior would do this. Nietz would do this. Lyon would do this. Green will do this.

*Every player Is expected 'To Go', when It's Their turn. Including Davey & Bennell, or any other small players.

Any melbourne Player wearing the demon colours,,, that didn't go, &/or pulled out, should be dragged straight away.

Robbie didn't shirk it,,, Nor did Alan Johnson, I saw him pull up once, Johnno, & did he give It to himself.

He didn't do it again. Gutsy little fella. and Proud....

*Totally agree, captains lead the way by example.

Edited January 31, 2011 by dee-luded

[Mono 455]

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Congratulations to Brad and incidentally, what a sensible decision he made to stay with the club two years ago! It's paid dividends to him on a personal level and for the club as well............

Maybe. I think/heard the filth offered him a lucrative deal; if he had gone, he may well be a premiership player now.

That said, I'm very pleased he stayed and that he is now captain.

[Sir Why You Little 37,134]

Maybe. I think/heard the filth offered him a lucrative deal; if he had gone, he may well be a premiership player now.

That said, I'm very pleased he stayed and that he is now captain.

A Filth Premiership is just that.

[45HG 1,559]

Maybe. I think/heard the filth offered him a lucrative deal; if he had gone, he may well be a premiership player now.

Why win one with co"@!'wood when you can captain Melbourne to one?

[dee-luded 2,959]

A Filth Premiership is just that.

In a way, they didn't win It. The Saints lost it.

[Sir Why You Little 37,134]

In a way, they didn't win It. The Saints lost it.

Good Luck telling a Filth supporter that!!! B)

[dee-luded 2,959]

Good Luck telling a Filth supporter that!!! B)

Yeah, I thought It with a wry smile.

[Mono 455]

A Filth Premiership is just that.

filth has no capital 'F'; just plain "filth".

[H_T 3,049]

filth has no capital 'F'; just plain "filth".

You have to excuse him. Every second or third word has a capital letter.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Don't really see that as interesting. Of course Grimes is no certainty because it's footy and their are 1000 variables. There are so many possibilities that could stop Grimes being captain but overall I'd say the main threat to Grimes being the next captain is Tom Scully, who on training work rate alone would have to be considered for the leadership group in the next couple of years.

exactly what I was going to say, plus Trengove and Watts would have to be huge contenders also, all four of these kids were talked up as potential leaders at the time of their drafting. In about 3 years when Green gives up the ghost it will be an extremely interesting appointment.. if I had to bet I would say Scully will be the one

[mauriesy 7,357]

No love for Frawley as a potential future captain? Has plenty of good attributes.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

No love for Frawley as a potential future captain? Has plenty of good attributes.

It's just that unlike Scully/Grimes/Trengove he wasn't a leader as a junior, and you never seem to hear him mentioned in that breath by anyone at the club. Some blokes are just guns and aren't meant to be leaders, like Sylvia

[H_T 3,049]

No love for Frawley as a potential future captain? Has plenty of good attributes.

I think he could be somewhere in the frame by then. No disrespect to Nathan Jones, he's a tireless worker, but I would have thought (being not from the inner sanctum - but from the outside) someone like Frawley who leads by example - tenfold - and has real presence (ref: 2010 season), might snaffle a position within the leadership group along with Grimes as 'the youngsters'. Granted, there remains a few years to go whilst Green is captain - one would assume - so Chip definitely has enough time to make inroads, if he so desires. But I do agree, he has many good attributes.

With anything these days with leadership groups, the players tend to vote them in, so it's moreso the inner sanctum that really 'knows'.....and help determine the leadership group...as is this case.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

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Not every player is expected to throw themselves into dangerous situations; but the captain is.

Only at MFC could this ever be an ethos.

As dee -luded quoted.......

Every player Is expected 'To Go', when It's Their turn. Including Davey & Bennell, or any other small players.

There are no exceptions if you want to be successful.

No love for Frawley as a potential future captain? Has plenty of good attributes.

I would have had Chippa over Jones myself