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1 hour ago, layzie said:

The cheesehead saved his life! Never has a stupid piece of foam been so important.

Oh ouch Macca, just ouch! 

I was expecting a scene like out of 'Lost' the TV drama where said person is thrown out of a jumbo and lands head first (with cheesehead apparatus attached) into some sort of swampy lagoon. 

That's just a bit more interesting and colourful that the Cessna story

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1 hour ago, layzie said:

 I’d also be expecting GB to make the playoffs often with a QB like Rodgers.

See the list of playoff appearances below  ... he missed in his first year and last year when he broke his collarbone.  8 years running - playoffs. 

He has only ever been surrounded by a reasonable or above average team with reasonable and sometimes above average coaching.  That is why we have only made the 1 SB in Rodgers time at the Packers.

I would have thought the above was clearly obvious to those who follow the sport closely. 

I watch all our games very closely and I am brutally honest when it comes to sport ... I'm unbiased,  don't play favourites,  I'm hard but fair and never scapegoat.  And I detest excuses.  Never blame refs or umps either. 

So you can rest assured that my appraisal of Aaron Rodgers is accurate. 

I've got about 7-8 mates who follow the NFL closely and not one of them doesn't share my view about the Packers.  None of them rate McCarthy that highly nor do they believe that the Packers roster has ever been that particularly strong.

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13 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

Steelers can get [censored]. So can the referees - only look one way. Almost cheating.

Pretty surprised to say the least. The Steelers were lucky to win with Ben throwing 3 picks. They couldn’t get any separation early on at all. He did make the key plays when they mattered though.

NFC East just opened and the god awful thought of the Cowboys making a run is apparent. 

Carolina cost a few of us big time in the tips, good job Rivera.

The Chargers were the big surprise for me. Plenty of talent on this roster but unfortunately they threw it. Lindsay has been a surprise packet for the Broncos, seeing the no. 30 side step into the end zone was shades of T.D! 

Tomorrow will be a belter. 

 

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1 hour ago, Macca said:

Well we have made the playoffs the large majority of the time with Rodgers at the helm but there's only so much the bloke can do on his own. 

He has only ever been surrounded by a reasonable or above average team with reasonable and sometimes above average coaching.  That is why we have only made the 1 SB in Rodgers time at the Packers.

I would have thought the above was clearly obvious to those who follow the sport closely.  I watch all our games very closely and I am brutally honest when it comes to sport ... I'm unbiased,  don't play favourites,  I'm hard but fair and never scapegoat.  And I detest excuses.  Never blame refs or umps either.  Never done that. Not once.

So you can rest assured that my appraisal of Aaron Rodgers is accurate.  I've got about 7-8 mates who follow the NFL closely and not one of them doesn't share my view about the Packers.  And believe me,  we've had a few barneys arguing to and fro.  None of them rate McCarthy nor do they believe that the Packers roster has ever been that strong. 

If Belichick had coached Rodgers for his career I reckon A-Rod would have featured in 3 or 4 SB's by now.  That's just my opinion but I reckon I wouldn't be far off the mark.  Maybe even 5 SB's. 

And there lies the difference layz. 

If I haven't convinced you after that spiel above then it's probably best that we agree to disagree.

Here's Green Bay's record with Rodgers at the helm  ... last season he broke his collarbone again which put paid to any playoff hopes

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Well I don’t know what we’d be disagreeing on exactly, I’ve never said anything other than that I’m a Rodgers fan and that he is one of the best talents I’ve ever seen in the position. The only thing I ever said from the beginning is that it was interesting how he and Favre shared losing away records. No attacks on Rodgers, no thinly veiled suggestions that he’s a bad Quarterback, just an interesting observation. 

He’s clearly been excellent, he’s clearly carried the team for a very long time, has got plenty of stats that very much support his excellence. I’m largely in agreeance with you on this. But I don’t think it’s a crime to question some things either and at the end of the day these small details are probably the difference between him and Brady.

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1 hour ago, Macca said:

I was expecting a scene like out of 'Lost' the TV drama where said person is thrown out of a jumbo and lands head first (with cheesehead apparatus attached) into some sort of swampy lagoon. 

That's just a bit more interesting and colourful that the Cessna story

Never finished watching Lost. By the last season the plane had crashed 5 years before so it was time for them to get over it.

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2 minutes ago, layzie said:

Well I don’t know what we’d be disagreeing on exactly, I’ve never said anything other than that I’m a Rodgers fan and that he is one of the best talents I’ve ever seen in the position. The only thing I ever said from the beginning is that it was interesting how he and Favre shared losing away records. No attacks on Rodgers, no thinly veiled suggestions that he’s a bad Quarterback, just an interesting observation. 

He’s clearly been excellent, he’s clearly carried the team for a very long time, has got plenty of stats that very much support his excellence. I’m largely in agreeance with you on this. But I don’t think it’s a crime to question some things either and at the end of the day these small details are probably the difference between him and Brady.

And I'm on record here in saying that Brady is a better QB that Rodgers ... but mainly because he's played in 8 SB's.  Swap teams and the story is probably the exact opposite.

But Brady is the outlier,  an aberration and not the benchmark.  Same as Bradman's average is not the benchmark.  But the dolts of this world see both Brady & Bradman as the benchmarks. 

They don't get it and I'm not sure you do either ... you are not a big picture person but you are definitely a 'fan' acting like a fan. 

I am entirely sick of talking to you to be honest and I see you as acting in a disingenuous manner on this matter ... in short,  I don't believe you. 

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And I'm on record here in saying that Brady is a better QB that Rodgers ... but mainly because he's played in 8 SB's.  Swap teams and the story is probably the exact opposite.

But Brady is the outlier,  an aberration and not the benchmark.  Same as Bradman's average is not the benchmark.  But the dolts of this world see both Brady & Bradman as the benchmarks. 

They don't get it and I'm not sure you do either ... you are not a big picture person but you are definitely a 'fan' acting like a fan. 

I am entirely sick of talking to you to be honest and I see you as acting in a disingenuous manner on this matter ... in short,  I don't believe you. 

Ok well I’m pretty sick of talking to you about it too and don’t wish to take it any further. Done with it. 

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4 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

Yesterday’s results threw up some curveballs...

psnthers...

And the saints... oh wow, they are a cut above right this minute.

They sure are..

Can’t wait for this one today though. MVP candidates, Peters against his old side, two QBs with video game like numbers it’s gonna be a beauty!

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So the 'troll' says that Rodgers road record is poor and he should have played in more SB's.  But the same troll is also saying that McCarthy is a poor coach and should have been sacked long ago.   2 posts earlier the same troll said that the coaching is fine. 

So the QB should have a much better road record and featured in more SB's yet has a coach who is deemed as useless

Makes no sense whatsoever.   But coming from someone who supports the Forty-Whiners,  I'm not surprised.  Chips on shoulders the size of boulders.

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The stupid finger pointing reminds me of the clowns who were blaming Nathan Jones in 2012/2013.

We had all sorts of issues at board level,  Admin,  player personnel & definitely the coaching but a fair wad of so-called sipporters wanted to blame Jones (our only real shining light) Astomishing.

These same idiots started on Goodwin earlier this year and previous to that Watts,  Oscar and others.

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