Matthew Bate on the Brisbane win

[RedDragon1972 0]

Really insightful piece from Matthew Bate on last weekend...

http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2010/08/01/defence-paves-way-for-demons//

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Really insightful piece from Matthew Bate on last weekend...

http://www.sportsnewsfirst.com.au/articles/2010/08/01/defence-paves-way-for-demons//

He's a smart young man and I think an important player but he really needs to work on his writing style.

If this is him attempting a life as a journo after his footy career he better hope there is a vacancy at the Hun because the only person that writes so unevenly is Mark Robinson.

Maybe Jon Anderson after a night out...

[hardtack 10,158]

All he needs are a few bullet points - it reads like a list.

[e25 5]

You'll find any footballer that writes an article will usually have someone that takes their basic bullet points and uses it to form a coherent article.

I think it is more an indication of the quality of the media outlet that published his article.

For instance, my in-law's father used to write a weekly column on behalf of a certain bald former Geelong CHF based on a 2 minute conversation on the phone.

An extreme case, but the majority of footballers would be similar to some degree.

Hence the Aker drama over the gay-footballers article.

The real issue would likely be that he couldn't be bothered properly checking an article he was going to put his name to, even though he was signing off on something he hadn't entirely written.

[e25 5]

He's a smart young man and I think an important player but he really needs to work on his writing style.

If this is him attempting a life as a journo after his footy career he better hope there is a vacancy at the Hun because the only person that writes so unevenly is Mark Robinson.

Maybe Jon Anderson after a night out...

Yet compared to some of the posts on this forum, it's practically Shakespeare.

Lolz.dont u think i think marc robinnson is a good reporter he and jon anderson do a really good colunm were they

drink at the bar and he gives he's opinion and that. Hes better then those noobs hutchy or Gary Lyon. its my favrite bit of the papers

sept for cartoons garfield is reelly funny lol

[Chook 14,616]

Yet compared to some of the posts on this forum, it's practically Shakespeare.

Lolz.dont u think i think marc robinnson is a good reporter he and jon anderson do a really good colunm were they

drink at the bar and he gives he's opinion and that. Hes better then those noobs hutchy or Gary Lyon. its my favrite bit of the papers

sept for cartoons garfield is reelly funny lol

Is that you, Robbo?

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Is that you, Robbo?

lol

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Yet compared to some of the posts on this forum, it's practically Shakespeare.

Lolz.dont u think i think marc robinnson is a good reporter he and jon anderson do a really good colunm were they

drink at the bar and he gives he's opinion and that. Hes better then those noobs hutchy or Gary Lyon. its my favrite bit of the papers

sept for cartoons garfield is reelly funny lol

Good post, except that you wrote 'he's better than those noobs' instead of 'his better...'

[Jonesy's jokers 0]

Good to get some insight from the big man.

I find it amusing, for all the right reasons.

Id suggest writing an article on football is not as easy as it sounds.

[Chook 14,616]

Good to get some insight from the big man.

I find it amusing, for all the right reasons.

Id suggest writing an article on football is not as easy as it sounds.

Are you kidding me? Give me a thesaurus and a computer hooked up to footywire and I could be a Herald Sun footy "journo" too. One of the easiest jobs there is, IMO.

[MikeyJ 60]

Are you kidding me? Give me a thesaurus and a computer hooked up to footywire and I could be a Herald Sun footy "journo" too. One of the easiest jobs there is, IMO.

Yeah, nah.

You might not agree with what those blokes write or how they write it, but I'd be wary of dismissing it as "one of the easiest jobs there is". Believe it or not, there's some craft involved in professional journalism and it's a lot more involved than just sitting in front of a computer and spewing out the first thing you think of.

That privilege (!) is reserved for those who have done the hard yards.

[Chook 14,616]

Yeah, nah.

You might not agree with what those blokes write or how they write it, but I'd be wary of dismissing it as "one of the easiest jobs there is". Believe it or not, there's some craft involved in professional journalism and it's a lot more involved than just sitting in front of a computer and spewing out the first thing you think of.

That privilege (!) is reserved for those who have done the hard yards.

Of course I'm exaggerating a little, but the fact that there are so many past players in the footy media suggests that writing ability is not the number one criteria that is required when becoming a footy journo. Who your father is (i.e. Sam Lane and her father Tim) seems to have more importance than actually doing the hard yards at a lower level or in another field.

[MikeyJ 60]

Of course I'm exaggerating a little, but the fact that there are so many past players in the footy media suggests that writing ability is not the number one criteria that is required when becoming a footy journo. Who your father is (i.e. Sam Lane and her father Tim) seems to have more importance than actually doing the hard yards at a lower level or in another field.

When you're referring to past players in the footy media, don't call them journalists, because they're not. They're generally commentators, columnists or presenters. Not journalists. Former Melbourne skipper Percy Beames was a journalist; so too is former Bulldog and Swan Neil Cordy. But there are precious few others I can think of.

As for Sam Lane, no doubt her dad's influence helped somewhat but she's managed to acquit herself pretty well in the actual journalist caper, regardless.

[Chook 14,616]

As for Sam Lane, no doubt her dad's influence helped somewhat but she's managed to acquit herself pretty well in the actual journalist caper, regardless.

That's arguable, but as I said before, I'm certainly exaggerating when I talk of how "easy" it would be to become a footy journo.

[e25 5]

Good post, except that you wrote 'he's better than those noobs' instead of 'his better...'

Damn, that would've been perfect.

Sorry, would of been.

Hard to break those bad habits.