Sportsbet have posted their odds for next year and have the Dees as $4.50 favourite for wooden spoon.. which I think is a disgrace. We could easily have avoided winning the spoon this year, and will be a much stronger outfit next.

For the record

WOODEN SPOON 2010

Melbourne $4.50

Richmond $5

North Melb $5

Freo $8

Sydney$10

Port Adel $10

I'm going to load up on Richmond, North and Freo.

Easy money. Too many people would still automatically select Melbourne for the spoon for them to ignore.

I don't mind.

Just shows we have something to prove for 2010. There isn't anything wrong with being the underdog.

All the more reason to put money on North, Rich and Freo now.

Gippy

We're all a bit biased on here, but I don't think we should be favourites.

On the plus, we're only favourites by $0.50.

We're all a bit biased on here, but I don't think we should be favourites.

On the plus, we're only favourites by $0.50.

Biased ... pffft.... When was the last time Liam Jurrah kicked 100 goals in a season, Jack Watts won the rising star, Jack Grimes won the brownlow and we won the wooden spoon?

It's a bit different at Betfair, where the punter can lay.

Rich- $3.20

Freo- $3.80

N M- $4.30

Melb- $4.30

W C- $4.50

Who cares. This Club knows where its going.

What are the odds for the MFC to make position 8. That's the one i am keen on....

Lol I just layed my spring carnival sportbet winnings all on the Tigers. Should make the season interesting.

i hope we go into every game as the underdog, and they under estimate us. Then we giv'em hell!!

Richmond $5

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Looking forward to buying 5 houses.

Lol I just layed my spring carnival sportbet winnings all on the Tigers. Should make the season interesting.

as did i... they are the closest thing to being a good thing for the spoon you will ever see. no richo, brown, bowden, johnson and simmonds and cousins one injury each away from career ending.....just pay me out now sportingbet :lol:

We've got good form over the past couple of years.

Who cares what they think?

as did i... they are the closest thing to being a good thing for the spoon you will ever see. no richo, brown, bowden, johnson and simmonds and cousins one injury each away from career ending.....just pay me out now sportingbet :lol:

I dunno, watch out for the Port Adelaide "smoky"

It's a bit different at Betfair, where the punter can lay.

Rich- $3.20

Freo- $3.80

N M- $4.30

Melb- $4.30

W C- $4.50

Yeah but that looks like a really inflated market, as the 5 favourites are all under $5, and that's totally disregarding the other 11 teams in the comp.

You have to consider what the punters' money will do in this situation. It's akin to how the Pies are always given smaller odds than they should be. It's Collingwood money. The bookies bring the odds down so that they don't get stung by the hordes of nuff nuffs putting their dole checks on the game.

Most average punters know NOTHING about our direction. To even the most lazy football "experts" we are improving, and will not take home the wooden spoon next year...

Having said that, the Luke Ball situation shows that even current players have no idea, and can change what a club looks like from the outside looking in. The only things fans see are the facts that we're current wooden spooners, we played some REALLY terrible footy for the middle part of last year, we have stocked up on draft picks (but aparently they're not good) we have no money, and the team has lost it's desire. Of course those in the know realise there's a lot more to it than that.

Look at Richmond. From where I sit, they're in the worst shape of any club. Their list is terrible, they've lost their heart and soul in Richo. Bereft of any stars, and their future looks REALLY bleak as they'll bottom out during the compromised drafts. But if you scratch the surface you'll see that they have a lot of players that are a season away from hitting their stride. With a decent run from injury, they could end up 9-12th, which would keep the hounds at bay.

I'm comfortable with our public perception at the moment. When we come flying back into contention, it'll be all the more surprising and enjoyable.

We have won the spoon two years in a row.

We've lost several veteran players, including our most damaging forward (up until 2008).

How exactly is it a disgrace that we are favourite? I'd say it was a pretty much given that we'd be favourite.

mine b on Bombers

No lloyd lucas mcphee

Big changes

By God, have people actually watched Essendon of late?

By God, have people actually watched Essendon of late?

I think Essendon are over-rated .... but I've got to agree the way they played last year ,they've got to be closer to the 8 than the spoon.

The punters can say what they like. As last year finished the two contenders would have to be us and Richmond....... and may be Port.

We've just got genuine reason for optimism

I will say on the topic, however, that it is a very difficult market to operate - possibly even harder than the premiership market.

One would assume that the lower teams would improve, but how much? Will they improve in comparison to other teams (win more games) or simply improve to the same amount as other teams? It is very difficult, IMO, to judge which teams will struggle as there are so many factors that may lead to a team struggling.

North would be the team I'd worry about.

North would be the team I'd worry about.

For some reason I reckon North will never win a spoon. They won't do anything special this year but win just enough games to finish 13th-14th.

Infact I can see them finishing 9th-13th for the next 5 years. Just didn't stock up enough on high-end prospects before compromised drafts.

I think Port would be a great bet at $10. Richmond and Freo couldn't possibly have ANOTHER year down the bottom, could they?

When has it ever been the case that the reigning wooden spooners wasn't the odds on favourite for the spoon the next year? It's how the betting industry works, and it doesn't mean anything. It's just the same as how people often tip the reigning premier to go back to back the next year.

As others have said already, who cares?

For some reason I reckon North will never win a spoon. They won't do anything special this year but win just enough games to finish 13th-14th.

Infact I can see them finishing 9th-13th for the next 5 years. Just didn't stock up enough on high-end prospects before compromised drafts.

I think you are right BBBP.

Prior to this year they have upstaged many in making the finals for the past 3 years even make a PF. Very hard to stock up on draft picks then.

They were not good enough to go further. And because of a solid core of Simpson, McIntosh, Petrie and Harvey they have not bottomed out to get the picks.

Lightning wont strike... thrice...