It's dependent on when his contract ends. If he doesn't have a binding contract prior to list lodgement, he automatically is delisted & if he nominates, he'll go into both drafts.

All contracts end 31 October.

AFAIK he can nominate for either draft or both.

So we should be happy with that then just conseed that we are a crap club and nobody wants to come to us. In '97 we were a crap club, in '98 we recruited White and Shanahan suddenly we weren't a crap team. The club should be trying to grab the best players Ball is clearly the best unsigned player we should be moving heaven and earth to entise Ball to the club not conseed like you always do.

The transformation of a crap club into a not-crap club hinges on more than the addition of 1 or 2 players...

If it wasn't for some coaching moves and a fade out the bottom team pushed St Kilda for three quarters, if Luke Ball was at that game he would think this club is on the way up, I disagree with many people we aren't as far away as most people think, I can see us playing finals in 2011. We made some decissions this year that ensured the club would get the best two kids in this years draft, we are a lot better than what we showed for the last 10 weeks.

Dees officially interested in Ball

Dees declare interest

The transformation of a crap club into a not-crap club hinges on more than the addition of 1 or 2 players...

It sure helps though. Scully, Trengove and Ball(?) will make us a better team add the hopeful improvement from the likes of Jurrah, Grimes, Watts, Sylvia, Frawley, Morton etc and suddenly we could surprise a lot of people.

Edited October 9, 200915 yr by BROCKSTAR5

So we should be happy with that then just conseed that we are a crap club and nobody wants to come to us. In '97 we were a crap club, in '98 we recruited White and Shanahan suddenly we weren't a crap team. The club should be trying to grab the best players Ball is clearly the best unsigned player we should be moving heaven and earth to entise Ball to the club not conseed like you always do.

We werent a crap club in 1998 because in addition to White and Shanahan we got Ox, Tingay, Lyon and G. Lovett back from long term injury. Pretty big gets.

Our list at the end of 2007 was far worse than 1997 and we are now 2 years into a complete overhaul of personnel.

I agree we should chase Ball but lets skip the hyperbole of heads rolling. Such grandstanding is usually accompanied by a lack of facts.

BTW, its concede and I have never conseeded in my life.

Melbourne has stated its interest in picking up Luke Ball in pre-season draft - SEN

If it wasn't for some coaching moves and a fade out the bottom team pushed St Kilda for three quarters, if Luke Ball was at that game he would think this club is on the way up...

You're dreaming if you think its fooled Ball like it has you.

Melbourne has stated its interest in picking up Luke Ball in pre-season draft - SEN

Powerpoint 07 is a doozie!

We werent a crap club in 1998 because in addition to White and Shanahan we got Ox, Tingay, Lyon and G. Lovett back from long term injury. Pretty big gets.

Our list at the end of 2007 was far worse than 1997 and we are now 2 years into a complete overhaul of personnel.

I agree we should chase Ball but lets skip the hyperbole of heads rolling. Such grandstanding is usually accompanied by a lack of facts.

good post rhino. spot on

i'd love ball. he may not be in our next premiership side but he would help to speed up our improvement and take some heat off some of the younger guys. given we haven't sacrificed picks it is all positives.

still plenty to do though. but we have a strong position.

I would be really happy if we got Ball, the way he goes about him self and plays his footy is just fantastic.

Pic 2 in i think they called the super draft, people say his best is behind BS dont believe that.

Can we get this thread changed...as luke can no longer request a trade to ball...??

maybe...call it 'Luke Ball' - where will he play for 2010 ???

good post rhino. spot on

i'd love ball. he may not be in our next premiership side but he would help to speed up our improvement and take some heat off some of the younger guys. given we haven't sacrificed picks it is all positives.

still plenty to do though. but we have a strong position.

His only 25, if it takes more than 5 years...:S

Agree we need to speed things up now, we need wins wins wins.

We werent a crap club in 1998 because in addition to White and Shanahan we got Ox, Tingay, Lyon and G. Lovett back from long term injury. Pretty big gets.

Lovett never played a game that year.

Lovett never played a game that year.

Really??

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/players...enn_Lovett.html

What about the others?

My mail is that Ball/Connors are absolutely furious with St. Kilda/Lyon. No chance to be at St. Kilda in 2010 given he was promised that at worst case, he would be organized in a trade.

His only 25, if it takes more than 5 years...:S

Agree we need to speed things up now, we need wins wins wins.

I concur..in that some seem to think it'll be 5-6..im really thinking 2012 onwards.. esp if we get to play WS twice...

just out of curiosity ...anyone know who Connors handles at Melb ?

You're dreaming if you think its fooled Ball like it has you.

Cheer up would you! Its friday and work is nearly over for a week and your ruining my buzz. Pull up stumps and have a beer.

Powerpoint 07 is a doozie!

Throw out that copy..........show Ball this one for the presentation.....along with a cardboard cut-out of Ross Lyon in the room.

I have heard Ball knocked back a 3 year deal mid year @ $400 K per season. Luke Ball was an elite player in 05/06, but not anymore. Would much rather pick a youngster at #30 (we got Beams with Pick #29) than Ball.

We already have 4 picks in the first 18 of the Draft. That is more than enough young kids.

Would be great to Balance that out with experience in the midfield.

You say Luke Ball's Body i shot??? Looked pretty Dam Sharp on Grand Final Day to me old Xav......

Back to your cave.

A St Kilda supporting mate reckons he's contracted at the moment. But he couldn't be as there is no wayt that we could get him in the PSD if he was.

Can anyone confirm. Is he contracted?

BTW, its concede and I have never conseeded in my life.

no but i have noticed you have a little trouble with your "yours"......

people in glass houses and all that

I will be bitterly dissapointed if we don't ge Luke Ball & not because of his on field/off field benefits to the club.

It would be a massive slap in the face to the MFC if he does not want to come to us, we have no1 PSD pick, room in the cap , he is guaranteed major playing time and the MFC want him.

make it happen MFC and get some respect back in the footy world

My mail is that Ball/Connors are absolutely furious with St. Kilda/Lyon. No chance to be at St. Kilda in 2010 given he was promised that at worst case, he would be organized in a trade.

lyon hardly sounded excited to still have him when interviewed straight after

A St Kilda supporting mate reckons he's contracted at the moment. But he couldn't be as there is no wayt that we could get him in the PSD if he was.

Can anyone confirm. Is he contracted?

that is crap. not contracted. your mate is either a dummy or delusional