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Correct, we can get him in and keep mcdonald. But i would guess that next year keeping Oliver would be harder and you don't want to be paying 600+ a year for a player to be in the VFL. I'm actually bullish on Baker as a winger (i was thinking if we got smith, that baker would be able to learn off him and replace him in 2-3 years time. I really like him regardless (just hasn't been played much).

Not a detractor of Jones, but I don't think Betts and Jones are related at all ;). If this was precedent then this year players would be wanting to join Melbourne because Nathan Jones was here haha. I think Jones will be playing VFL and helping mentor/coach younger developing players rather than winning games in the AFL for us. So as a prospective player he would rate very very low on my desire to come to Melbourne, potentially not at all.

SOS and Barrett surprised at this ?. But hopefully he understands he may not play a single game if his form doesn't warrant it. Could be a playing coach role at VFL.

As a junior Champion data ranked him the highest scoring player ever (144 ranking points on average a match). From trade radio just now. I would be willing to give up a future first for him (ouch i know in a strong draft) as he was a first round pick and nothing shows he is slowing down.

I want Higgins to us Bad!!! Will give us two crumbing forwards to go with potentially 3 talls and then a petracca/melksham/hunt as the 6th forward. Much better than having another slow non-pressure-type forward sitting there (like Jones resting forward).

Doesn't rate Jeremy Cameron then? :P

I like the idea as back -up, but i think the problem from the start has been his salary. We can't afford to have a back-up backman earning top 5-10 salary at the club. Especially if we bring in Brown which will require the $$ that Tmac is tying up (which sounds like we will). So it's a hard decision, as he could regain form in future and burn us (front bar rocka brothers and jaffles anyone hahaha) OR maybe he will fade to nothing at another team. Either way i think we just need his salary off the books to get the deals done we want (plus i think Oliver money for a new contract can't be hurt with Tmac off to another club)..

Suck it Dangerfield hahaha

SEN reporting he’s going to Adelaide for a nothing pick to free up space, which then at kilda use to pay more for crouch = pick 2 for Adelaide. I’d call that draft tampering ?‍♂️?‍♂️

If they were ever going to cut or move a club, North Melbourne is in the best (worst) position for them to do this.. potentially 1/3rd of their list moved on, most coaches gone, low membership etc. and combine this with COVID. So if the AFL don't move North this year i can't see them ever moving a victorian club (or any club for that matter).

I think that doesn't help Daniher or hurt Essendon though. Lions are probably paying way under what essendon can afford, so if they put the offer in at whatever it is, and Essendon match.. To me that equals Essendon winning big time as they get Daniher for a long term deal for way less money. So although i agree with you that it would be good to let them match as a stuff you, in this case it won't work (it would be a gift). If Jeremy cameron was a restricted free agent (hypothetically) on the other hand and say he wanted to go to geelong for 50-100k more than GWS was offereing and GWS said no we are matching. Then that is a situation where i can see it [censored] GWS up as they are meant to be super tight on salary space (although surely with williams gone this isn't so much the case, but worst comes to worse they pay cameron more than they wanted to and they may lose another player later :).

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-afl-trades-trade-talk-news-updates-rumours-whispers-live-chat-tom-morris-afl-finals-2020-trade-period/news-story/467c36d796f0c99d3dcf23693aa01675 A person in the chat with tom morris has asked about carlton getting oliver and Morris has said: Ollie Wines or Clayton Oliver to Blues? Not Wines. Rumours about Oliver have been strongly denied by his management. The Demons midfielder is unsettled but until he requests a trade I will believe his management that he's going nowhere. Hi Tommy, any truth to the Oliver to Carlton rumours? As a Melbourne supporter it’s a scary prospect! Hi ralph, I'm reliably told Melbourne won't be trading Clayton Oliver, even though he was a bit frustrated with this year.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2020-afl-trades-trade-talk-news-updates-rumours-whispers-live-chat-tom-morris-afl-finals-2020-trade-period/news-story/467c36d796f0c99d3dcf23693aa01675 Collingwood apparently going to offer Jetta a long-term deal and he is weighing it up. Melbourne would agree to trade if it's a fair price (see article).

If we get him i think we start looking at West coast or Brisbane structures with 2 big key forwards and then the third being the second ruck. We would be doing alright if we could perform like them.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/10/09/trade-exit-for-bulldogs-star-may-not-be-out-of-the-question/ Lachie Hunter - could be on the table, is he an outside/inside mid? if he has that outside skill i would be interested to see if we tried to pursue him (although obviously has some D head factor about him).

Completely agree, it's funny that whenever max is injured our midfield seems to be more productive clearance wise in my mind. And really that shouldn't be the case, with Max in we should be so much better. Hopefully what you said comes through and we fix it next year (but i doubt it).

I was thinking pick 23 for polec and brown #dream

I'm interested to see if Jackson can be that tall forward (we did well this year with him in and hes 200cm). Anyway I think there are some other factors that may be as important as pure height measured from feet to top of head: Wing/arm span - you could be the same height as the guy next to you, but if their reach is an extra 5-10 cm... There is a lot of variation in players wing span hence reach. I think Hogan had longer arms relative to height. Jump height - can have a tall who can't jump much, vs a guy a few cm shorter who can explode and jump an extra 20cm.. Think mcgovern from west coast as a good example of someone a little shorter but does well on taller opponents due to jump. Also some other things that could influence: Shoulder width - weid has big shoulders making it harder to spoil around / defender has to go over them and more chance of giving away a free (if they ever paid it), compared to say Hipwood from the lions who has 0 shoulders. how a person's head/neck contributes to height. I see a few players with long necks and that may give them a few extra cm's in overall height, but does nothing else from a performance point of view as their arms are starting from a lower point on their body (just an interesting observation). Think Blakey for both of these. Interesting to consider anyway :) go dees!

Cal Twomey and Riley Beveridge just said hes end of first to early second (so 18-25 range). https://www.afl.com.au/video/501356/trade-q-a-roos-target-star-don-rivals-circle-free-agent-eagle?videoId=501356&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1600226559001

Reading this article and i feel that some hard truths and not going hard enough from Greg williams would be welcome (he was let go and would be a good midfield mentor to a number of our players). As for a coach, if it's not goodwin it has to be someone hard who actually can change plans in game and may know some tactics.. (clarkson) https://www.afl.com.au/news/497517/-you-ve-got-to-toughen-up-diesel-slams-carlton-s-former-no-3-pick

I think with Jackson as the second tall we don't need/ for balance shouldn't get him. Pre Jackson i would've been all over him.

Zac Williams is worth the shot, but can we sell us to him on a tight budget? Wish it was him instead of Tomlinson last year ?, just want more speed in the team.

I’ve mentioned this before but I haven’t seen Tom jump or run all day like he used to and I can’t help but feel he’s knee is shot (mine is too hence why I think this). If that’s the case what Tom was for us in 2018 will never happen again. If it’s also the case he can’t play wing and he won’t be able to jump in the ruck. But just my random thoughts from how he’s performed this year..

Out - 1 tall (Tmac or Jackson), 1-2 slow midfielders (Jones, brayshaw, sparrow) In - Tall for AVB, Bennel for one slow midfielder and maybe look at tomilson for the second wing again (but has to be for another slow midfielder - aka Brayshaw). We need more dynamic and explosive/classy players, not similar types (hence, Jones in i think has hurt us as it's another of the same in). Bring back the team vs the Hawks and i'll be happy.

I’ve never seen so many kicks to the opposition under no pressure to start a game. They just sit back and wait for us to turn it over and then run forward in a wave. Eisner and repeat. [censored] so obvious how to beat us. Can’t watch anymore. Sigh.