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I like it. Sad thing is many don't see Grimes and Watts as fringe players. Last nights game showed they don't have it in them, more than enough chances, must go. I'd even sound out a Lions/Carlton with regards to Dawes, but I think we'll be stuck with him next year.

Lets see how the whole team goes, if the delivery is poor.....

Need to offer new contract next year, don't wait until 2017 and don't insult him with the first offer. Straight off the bat 5 mill for 4 years. Remembering the cap will be increasing.

Two forward pockets and a half back flanker......nice.

Johnathon Brown.

A McGlynn type.....McGlynn is a bloody handy player.

Dirty Rotten Scoundrels. Steve Martin had corks on the end of his.

I agree, Roo just signed to play until 2016, two year apprenticeship awaits.

Grimes girl is gorgeous but too much make up or tanning.

Exactly, how quickly people turn. The coaches aren't stupid, there will be more changes made come seasons end but McDonald won't be one of them.

Two key talls at the top of the draft for two teams that are already top heavy. Having said that hoping not to finish 17th.

Was this the game that cost Grant Thomas his career?

Isn't he demanding 600k for cameo appearances?

If he is fit he plays. He was drafted for a reason. Give him games and time, this year is shot. Call it on job training.

You're right, he should have dropped ages ago. Made to earn his spot , he has been spoilt , gifted games , that's the only mismanagement.

What are you going on about? Ablett left the cats or is that differant. He left for money and missed out on a flag. Do you mean the leadership group which has tolerated sub standard performances for years? Another post has already stated some of his best football has been under Neeld. Running away won't make him stronger. If we can get a suitable trade then so be it.

I think your right about north. A big if , but should we get a priority pick package it up with Watts then we have some bargaining power. Opposition players have to agree to the trade which may be a problem in some cases. Peter Jackson wasn't hired to sit on his hands , would love to have his office bugged.

Agreed Neeld must go. Obviously a lot hinges on the new coaching appointment. I can't imagined that any other club would have matched the GWS offer to Scully. Our bargaining chip with Watts is up to 8 clubs want him (debatable). Lets hear them out. The no.1 tag currently means nothing.

Let him go then , I'm sick of players who don't understand 100% effort is required every week. Sorry it's not his fault it's the coaches. Neeld has stuffed lots of things but Watts isn't one of them. Drafted as a key forward, playing him down back is a cop out. We have an opportunity to make up for another drafting blunder. Loose Watts - trade for an experienced mid.

We were all up in arms about Scully until we landed Hogan. If we netted a good mid in return would we still feel the same about Watts, I think not.

The clubs wants culture, call the players out at training, ask them if they have made their mind up 100% about leaving, if they are man enough to admit it they play out the season in the seconds. Phil Davis had the balls and was dropped for it, same should have happened to Scully. More than ever we need commitment from players and supporters if you don't want in sod off now you're not wanted. Probably would have effect with the new coach but you get the idea.

So are soft overpaid underachieving so called footballers. We've stuffed up his development..... Just like like we've stuffed up the likes of Terlich. His problems are all mental. An ex player has one good game and there another one we stuffed up. We overrate our own players to much, if Watts wants out we want a decent trade in return.