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Anyone seen Kieran Collins getting about?

I haven't received that offer as yet. And what if I want Ellie Blackburn??

Plus COLA, do we honestly believe the swans divvy it up between the whole team. A player on 200k gets told they can only give him 180k and 20k of COLA as opposed to 200 plus 20.

I want Toumpas gone but I get the whole "it's just one place on the list argument". To me this is about freeing up cash to make a play for someone else not about list space. I honestly believe next year could be the last for the likes of Watts and Grimes if they remain on our list. What are we honestly expecting in return for him? We have to be realistic. If this did go through then two days later we heard that we've offered player x 800k for five years and he's agreed to terms we'd all be wetting our pants.

Angry at Casey posted today that Grimes is out the door.What would the combined salary of Watts/Grimes be, I'd guess anywhere from 650-800k. Both contracted for next year and both dropped at least twice throughout the year.

Goodes spent the later part of his career as a half forward plus they have lost/are going to loose Jetta. They have a surplus of inside players. Watts gets out of the Melbourne spotlight.

He did stress it was a rumour but it's what he heard. I look at it this way, Robinson could be the next VB or could be the next Cook. Watts needs a fresh start, if he's on 3-400k that's extra cap space to throw at someone else. We may not get back what we perceive to be of equal value, for us it might be about the extra money. Small part of a big picture.

I had to google him as well. We all should know Bird, Robinson plays wing/half forward. Not sure how to post links but from reading on the swans website he's been stuck in the NEAFL behind sone pretty handy players.

My swans mate reckons he heard today Watts to Sydney for Craig Bird and Daniel Robinson.

Granted, but hopefully not 4 years at the speculated price. Or is it just that......speculation.

Do t know a lot about him myself. No one I know rates him. Not a lot of love for him on FB. Going of the 1 year for Pedo and no contract for Toumpas if the club does pick him up surely it's for two years on minimum wage.

Watts/Grimes/Dawes/Toupmas need to show more this year or risk next year being their last in the game.

Any mention of Redden?

Considering your drunken state the post scrubbed up all right. Toumpas can get stuffed. Sydney?? Trade sanctions lifted....how convenient.

There are plenty of examples that prove that point wrong.I'm happy to keep 2-4 max spots on the list for "select" recycled players(not an open door policy) Initial 2 year contract, but not on 400k.

Im thinking your taking the pi££. After all trades/draft have occurred, depending on who's brought in, some senior players who were once getting a game on a regular basis might find themselves as depth or even bottom ten on the list players. People have bemoaned the likes of Michie/Newton/Riley coming to the club. But if they're only given two year deals it can't hurt to use 2-3 spots on the list for fringe players at other clubs because everyone now and then you find one. The key is limiting them to two years unless the show something.

The other part to that is players not getting a game should be kids learning the craft not dead wood in their mid 20's.

I will happily answer that in a few weeks.

Wouldnt it be great to see Carlton waste another no.1 pick.At least we got Hogan for Scully.

Every draft shallow or not has its surprises.

Sydney....??

I did say this year or next.Pencil is contracted for next year and obviously will remain on the list until as a minimum. We will no doubt be looking to bring in someone else in.Depending on who that is and how developed they are next year could be his last.

Brad Green.

If we could trade in a mid or two and keep our first pick, we may use it on a tall. I know what people have said regarding Roos not keen on drafting talls, but maybe it might be Goowins call, maybe they have identified someone in the draft. Time will tell.

Hes had upside since he was drafted, still waiting to see him realise it.