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Agree NO change unless there is an injury on track. Weid stays and does the relief ruck work as Tommy isn't match fit enough yet to take on rucking duties. Salem will not be back from a brokem thumb after 1 week and personally I would give Viney time at Casey as he has had no match time since last year.

This is an insult to Leigh. I know him and often discuss umpiring and how they assess their performance with him. He has umpired many St Kilda games before and I doubt anyone has noticed and I think he is one of the better umpires hence you tend not to notice him. Jayden Hunt believes he is one of the better umpires as well. Leigh recently umpired his 100th AFL game only the 2nd former player to do so and this questioning of his impartiality is wrong.

At last a rover who kicks goals, crumbs packs and has attitude. Go Charlie

Well done Charlie congratulations. My son will be spewing as he is a Kangas supporter and rates Charlie highly and cannot belive the Roos didn't pick him. They couldn't get him as a father son as his old man played 81 games with North. Charlie has followed the path of his father, Paul (North Melbourne and Brisbane), grandfather, Bob (Footscray), and great grandfather, Bob snr (Footscray and Melbourne), in making the big-time.

What is worse he was bitten by his own dogs. Nasty bugs in dog saliva. Trac carried it into Tuesday night and it may have flared up again. Surgery usually to drain the infection plus antibiotics means a week out. Note also mentioned in injury report rot was not available last week end due to slight abductor strain, that wasn't mentioned earlier in the week.

Will player management come into play as well and rest players who are sore post Tuesday. Kent definitely out, Jetta has a sore ankle and Bernie is 32. I don’t believe you drop Stretch after 1 high intensity game as he needs another week to adapt to the pace. On form Harmes needs time at Casey and Garlett is on shaky ground. Fritch to come in for sure for Kent the rest is a lottery. I would love to see Spargo get a chance soon. Baltic had a hammie problem and wont be promoted yet. Note Essendon have their own problems with Begley & Green out and Tippinwaty carrying a knee.

Just posted in the Goodwin forum the same thing. Things notgood in the box for the first 4 rounds and macca will sit on the boundary line. Mentioned elsewhere that there may have been a clash of egos. When asked to elaborate the reporter stated that Macca wants to be in the boc so I am not sure who he has upset but clearly not a happy camp

So Hunt, Stretch, Balic not named for Casey. Was Balic sore or injured at the end of the game last week. Tyson will be a definite in and Lewis out. I suspect someone to relieve Max other than Harmes, Pedo or Weid. An early training report had jetta and frost in the rehab group but I hope the extra time will see them get up. I think Fritch will be rested and Bugg and Wagner also omitted. In Hunt, Stretch, Tyson and Pedo Out Lewis, Bugg, Wagner & Fritch

Lots of prepurchased tickets and reserved seats sold so the money is already in the bank. In adition I expect Richmond supporters to come in their droves as well as the theatre goers going to the spectacle. I still expect a big crowd

The most damning stat was just posted by Gerard Whately on AFL 360. Under Goodwin and his all out attack game plan in the last 25 games we have allowed the opposition to score a run of unanswered goals (4 or more) in 21 of those games. Any wonder Roos has stated we are the easiest team to score against. Minimum of 4 unanswered goals and in some cases more. How can you possibly have aspirations for finals if you cannot defend. Goodwin and the coaching staff need to address this and back off on the all out attack.

I think this article in the Age sums up the way some feel and why the negativity https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/after-decades-of-failure-how-can-i-raise-my-kids-to-be-demons-fans-20180416-p4z9ut.html I share his pain

In Tyson. Hannan, Hunt, Pederson, Stretch Out Harmes. Jetta, Vince, Melksham, Wagner

We played dumb footy, didn't tackle as well as them, over possessed, panicked and looked slow. Brilliant coaching by Clarkson to move the ball quickly, lower eyes and kick to aa lead or to space where their pace killed us. Breust was BOG and Shiels showed a bit too. They smashed our midfield even though maxxy dominated the hit outs. Our back line is too slow especially against a team like Hawthorn that kick it long to space and allow the small players to run onto the ball. I got sick of the number of goals scored out the back or at the fall of the ball when all our players flew..DUMB.. Sadly Nev is badly out of form, injured or both and has been towelled up. We cannot carry Lewis & Bernie in the same team and Wagner and Hibberd try to fill the same role. We cannot play both as they lack pace. Likewise Melksham, Bugg, Harmes & Kent are all too similar and 2nd stringers. They cannot all be in the team at the same time. I know every team has to work through injuries but Tommy and Viney leave big shoes to fill To those who asked earlier why Hoges didn't go to the middle. He was getting lots of attention for his groin and after half time ran around and went to the bench for treatement before taking his starting place. I suspect this is why he didn't move to the midfield sfter half time. If Hogan is in the middle or marking on the wing there is no one who can take an overhead mark up forward. Contiually we kick it up in the air to a packed back line. Fritch is the only marking target playing in his 4th game. Dumb football in a game wherer we were, out coached out muscled and out played.This loss is one of the worst in the last 2 seasons and left a foul taste in my mouth for the lack of effort.

Some random thoughts. The opening 15 minutes we were running 3-4 spares out of the backline, leaving Daw all alone and then we kick it high to a contest. It made him look good and let them get out of our forwrd zone too easy. When the ball came out once it got past our zone they got goals out the back. We played much better with a man on man contest and fixed up the issue North got a lot of goals from frees in what was one of the worst displays of umpiring I have seen this year. The free to Ben Brown for a ruck infringement late in the 2nd left me stunned yet 2 minutes later when Goldy shepherds Max out of the contest no whistle. Fortunately Bugg got take high and promptly missed with his free after the siren We still miss a lot of set shots and Trac is better on the run I like Clarry resting up forward. Jacobs wore him like a second skin and limited his possession but his 2 goals int he last quarter show what a weapon he can be resting up forward. At round 3 we still have a lot of room for improvement espcially our forward efficiency but I expect Tommy Mac will straighten that up on his return. Scott Thompson is a thug. His punch to Jessies head on the final siren is typical of his style for his whole career. I hope it gets reviewed

Who on our list can add speed and class around the packs. We have the strong contested ball players in Clarrie & Trac but Bris have a fleet of small quick players. We have Garlett, Harmes who is prepared to run and Jayden is way down on form. So who generates run and carry? North beat St Kilda with Hrovat, Sympkin, Turner, Atley & Hartung running and carrying. Structure alone will not stop their run

These days the coach does all the prep through the week . Rotations are pre planned, match up organised and contingency plans for injuries are all done. So what can the coaching box implement on match day? Instructions to players who don't follow team rules, stem the tide when the opposition gets a run on or come up with a stategy thet wasn't anticipated. I haven't liked Goodies team selection so far but on match day he is limited in what he can do. The good teams are controlled and managed onfield by the generals the leaders. At geelong Selwood barks the orders at hawthorn it was Hodge and look at how he is organising the backline in Brisbane. Sydney have so many leaders it isn't funny and last year Mitchell proved he is a coach in waiting in his stint at the eagles. It took Scott 8 years at geelong to win a flag with a group of exceptional father and son picks. Trac and Clarrie lead our midfield but are not the generals yet. I have no idea how much coaching Jones does and I expect more from Lewis whose undisciplined play has actually hurt us. Maxie is new to leadership and leads by example but not tactically. Yes Goody worries me but I can see ways around his inexperience and where we need to grow.

I will always take a win no matter how ugly. I thought the Lions showed up our lack off speed and inability to defend, small fast forwards. Charlie Cameron showed us up all night, Christianson around goal and Zorko in the forward 50. We have Garlett up forward but we lack that explosive pace in the midfield. In the 2nd half the Lions were prepared to go longer in the slippery conditions and play in front, while we were still trying to hit up targets. There were a number of silly frees resulting in goals against Hunt, Jetta and Lewis. It took a while till we started playing wet weather footbal and stop over possessing. The six day break and high humidity also didn't help us so I am glad to get away with the 4 points

Any word on Nev? There was a suggestion he was carrying and injury. I like Frost in as a key back as I think teams will continue to isolate Lever in a key defensive role. he didn't play that in Adelaide and it is a new role for him. Brisbane have key marking targets as we found out last year. Brisbane will be without Rich and Robinson which will be to our advantage.

Caro where are you when we need someone to write an article about another clubs botched camp. Does this mean the Crows are soft? Are they not united? It seems that the camp freaked a few of them out. I cannot see how this is supposed to improve their football skills. As always captain Walker is on the job texting with the same care he extended to lever last year. he recommends it to his family and friends

1. MFC did not go on camp 2. Adelaide football club went on a cult like camp and word is it harmed players 3. Tex liked it and would recommend to his family and friends Now will Caro decide to do some investigative journalism and write an opinion piece about a useless camp designed to test player limts that didn't work

If I can add to the discussion I think we missed too many tackles in the first half. And the tackles made were brushed away except for Ablett who got pinged a few times for incorrect disposal. The tackling and intensive pressue was much better after half time. Richmond have set the standard for tackling and forward defensive pressure. Agree that we need more lead up forward passes rather than bombing it in.

My group of friends met today for the first time this season. Only heresay from a physio that Viney's foot is worse than the club are letting on and he is out indefinitely. Only repeating what another stated.

Lewis is in the team for leadership. He said more that that to the umpre, I suspect it was more in the line of the ump going and getting photographed. It cost us a goal and we lost by 3 points. Lewis looke right off the play today it was not his best game.

I couldn't help but notice with Jason day winning todays "Farmers Insurance Open" that he is sponsored by Zurich. Photo of Jason, family and golf bag shows the "Zurich" logo on his bag. Clearly a very global company and hopefully the winning culture rubs off on us.